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Title: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 08:42:56 pm
I'm trying to start a webcomic. I've got a name (Frameless Comic) and all the other comic bits, I'm just missing the web part. Any advice or help on anything at all, anyone?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: mikehill2003 on April 20, 2011, 09:01:47 pm
I'm trying to start a webcomic. I've got a name (Frameless Comic) and all the other comic bits, I'm just missing the web part. Any advice or help on anything at all, anyone?
What kind of help do you need? (HTML programming, setting up a website, JS programming, etc)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:04:10 pm
Just a simple webcomic interface wouldn't be too hard, you could do something like what I made for a webcomic me and my friend might do at some point eventually:
Code: [Select]
<?php
    $current 
3;
    
$pagenumber $_GET[&#39;p&#39;];
    
$navnumber $_GET[&#39;n&#39;];
    
$imagesrc "";
    if (
$pagenumber) {
$imagesrc "img/$pagenumber.jpg";
$page $pagenumber;
    } else {
$imagesrc "img/$current.jpg";
$page $current;
    }
    if (!
$navnumber) {
$navnumber 1;
    }
?>

<?php
    $current 
3;
    
$pagenumber $_GET[&#39;p&#39;];
    
$navnumber $_GET[&#39;n&#39;];
    
$imagesrc "";
    if (
$pagenumber) {
$imagesrc "img/$pagenumber.jpg";
$page $pagenumber;
    } else {
$imagesrc "img/$current.jpg";
$page $current;
    }
    if (!
$navnumber) {
$navnumber 1;
    }
?>

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
    <head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<style type="text/css">
    body {background-image: url("wutbg.png");}
    table {background-color: #163232;}
    p.title {font-size: 40px; font-weight: bold;}
    p.normal {font-size: 20px;}
    p.navbar {font-size: 20px;}
    p.copyright {font-size: 15px;}
    p.tags {font-size: 0px;}
</style>
        <title>¿ʇnʍ Comics</title>
    </head>
    <body>

<table border="0" width="1000" align="center">
    <tr align="center">
<td>
    <table border="0">
<tr>
    <td rowspan="2" width="10%">
<p class="navbar"><a href="?">Home</a></p>
<p class="navbar"><a href="?n=2">About Us</a></p>

    </td>
    <td width="85%">
<p class="title">¿ʇnʍ Comics</p>
<p class="normal">A webcomic of inanity, overmemeage, and non-consummation</p>
<hr>
    </td>
</tr>
<tr align="center">

    <td width="85%">
<?php if($navnumber == 1) { ?>
    <img alt="<?php echo $page?>" width="60%" align="center" src="<?php echo $imagesrc?>">
<?php ?>
<?php if($navnumber == 2) { ?>
    <p class="normal">
Ricky Talbot - (Description)
    </p>

    <p class="normal">
Issac Ross - (Description)
    </p>
<?php ?>
    </td>
</tr>
    </table>
</td>
    </tr>

    <?php if($navnumber == 1) { ?>
<tr>
    <td>
<table border="0" width="100%">
    <tr align="center">
<td width="50%" align="left">
    <a href="?p=1"><img alt="First" src="first.png"></a>
    <a href="?p=<?php echo ($page != 1) ? $page $page?>"><img alt="Previous" src="prev.png"></a>
</td>

<td width="50%" align="right">
    <a href="?p=<?php echo ($page != $current) ? $page $page?>"><img alt="Next" src="next.png"></a>
    <a href="?"><img alt="Last" src="last.png"></a>
</td>
    </tr>
</table>
    </td>
</tr>
    <?php ?>

    <tr align="center">
<td width="100%">
    <p class="copyright">©2011 Unreal Phantasies (Ricky Talbot and Issac Ross)</p>
    <p class="copyright">Site design by Ricky Talbot; Brain aneurysms by Issac </p>
</td>
    </tr

</table>
    </body>
</html>

This would assume each one is simply (number).jpg, and it has 2 pages, a home page and an about us page.  For a host, if you want a fre host, I've been using x10 for a while and I love it. =D
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:04:37 pm
A good host, domain name suggestions, Features I should include on the site, a good size/format for the images, etc.
Edit: Ak! That's a lot of code. And I understand none of it. Is anyone willing to help me with code?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Juju on April 20, 2011, 09:05:29 pm
Well, you can look at others webcomics for inspiration, such as xkcd (http://xkcd.com/).

I think there's a Wordpress plugin for webcomics.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:10:08 pm
I have no idea what that means. (Not the xkcd part, the other part)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:12:59 pm
(People posting right after makes edits not work :P) Anyways, like I said above X10Hosting (http://www.x10hosting.com) is pretty good, and since frameless.com is already taken, if you're shooting for a .com, I would just keep it simple and go with framelesscomic.com.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: mikehill2003 on April 20, 2011, 09:20:03 pm
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A good host
http://www.heliohost.org/ (http://www.heliohost.org/) has worked well for me.

Quote
domain name suggestions
Would you purchase a domain name or just use .tk or .co.cc?

Quote
Features I should include on the site, a good size/format for the images, etc.
I don't have any suggestions for features other then a full-text search. Image size would be best if kept under 1024x512 or 800x256.

Quote
Edit: Ak! That's a lot of code. And I understand none of it. Is anyone willing to help me with code?
Sorry no, as most of my programming experience is with somewhat complex algorithms (very boring stuff) in C or C# and I am still learning JS/HTML/PHP.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:21:31 pm
I could help you customize that code to work for your site if you want.  It's a pretty generic setup =D
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:27:01 pm
That'd be awesome cooliojazz! I don't need nor particularly care about purchasing a domain name, so I'm fine with free. The url's probably gonna be framelesscomic.tk then. Two letters are cool.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:30:45 pm
You'd probably just need to get on irc or something so we could discus it.  Btw, you haven't really answered other people's questions so they can help you =P
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:32:19 pm
What questions have I missed?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:36:02 pm
Quote
domain name suggestions
Would you purchase a domain name or just use .tk or .co.cc?
and possibly the implied question here of if you want a free host or not
This would assume each one is simply (number).jpg, and it has 2 pages, a home page and an about us page.  For a host, if you want a free host, I've been using x10 for a while and I love it. =D
Okay, really, I thouthg there was more or I wouldn't have brought it up, sorry =\
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:50:28 pm
Uhhhh....
That'd be awesome cooliojazz! I don't need nor particularly care about purchasing a domain name, so I'm fine with free. The url's probably gonna be framelesscomic.tk then. Two letters are cool.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 09:57:14 pm
Cooliojazz watches his incompetency level slowly rise... Yeah, doubly sorry now. X.x I'd love to help you though... =)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 09:59:50 pm
That's ok.
I'd love to have help. Actually, I need it.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 10:02:43 pm
Yeah, so get in contact with me somehow, like irc or some way listed in my profile and i can probably help you with just about anything you need =)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 10:06:56 pm
This whole thing's gonna have to wait till tomorrow, anyway. I'm having computer issues here.
PS: What kinds of technologies am I going to need?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 10:07:41 pm
Technologies? For what parts?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 10:10:10 pm
I'd like to know what I'm looking for in a host.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 10:14:53 pm
Ahh, well, for just a webcomic, unless you feel like going crazy overboard and adding some things in like a comic forum, all you'll need is http, which is guaranteed, otherwise it wouldn't be a web host, and php, which is probably included in 95% of them. Mysql would be nice if you eventually wanted some more advanced stuff, but not needed. =)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 10:16:44 pm
So, mySql? I like headfirst diving.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 10:18:45 pm
Sure, go for it. t's pretty common too,  so you should be able to find quite a few out there that have it that you like =)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 10:20:16 pm
Cool. Got any ideas on how the site should look?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: mikehill2003 on April 20, 2011, 10:33:49 pm
Cool. Got any ideas on how the site should look?
Well, I'm not coollojazz, but I prefer simple website layouts. For a webcomic, you probably don't need too much in the way of menus or buttons. As for colors and style, that would kinda depend on the style of the comic. Maybe a notebook paper background, with a light blue/white colorscheme?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 20, 2011, 10:35:35 pm
Well, the base currently would look like http://up.x10.mx/wut/freyaday.php, I have no idea what colors and whatnot you would want though, so it's a bit bland... =P  Also, sizes and positions can all easily be changed.  I just need something to go off of. =D
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 10:36:52 pm
Seems Reasonable. I'll make a mockup. In my notebook.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Ashbad on April 20, 2011, 10:52:58 pm
Ooh, a web comic :D I always loved those!  One suggestion is that you trace them out on paper, then transfer them to comp and touch up the comic to make it more legible.  That way it's much more fun and easy to read, and patrons of the series won't have to spend time wondering what a scribble or a lightly-pressed word says.

But looking at what you've posted before, I don't need to remind you to make them really humorous :) you seem very good at that.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 11:00:21 pm
Yay! I'm funny!
I hate the way pasted in text boxes look, though, so I'm just gonna write neater. I do some minor touchups anyway, but I'm gonna have to investigate into the abilities of Paint more. Maybe I'll have a button that overlays text boxes onto the image.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: ruler501 on April 20, 2011, 11:01:35 pm
If you use Paint.net there are some good plugins for touching up images
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 20, 2011, 11:03:43 pm
I use MS Paint. Best thing they ever made.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: willrandship on April 20, 2011, 11:51:37 pm
http://www.smackjeeves.com/ is a pretty nice (and free) host specifically for this type of thing, with layouts too, but you don't get your own domain, but I think they'll let you set one up.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: shmibs on April 21, 2011, 02:15:29 am
if you're using mspaint there are a few options out there with virtually the same layout and much more functionality. kolourpaint is one such option, but it's -nix only, so you should probably check out mtpaint instead.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 21, 2011, 02:25:22 am
Actually, the computers I use at school have Photoshop on them, so I use that when I can.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: shmibs on April 21, 2011, 02:29:44 am
ah, alright
i have kolourpaint, gimp, and *cough cough* photoshop, but i still prefer the first just because it's a layout i'm used to XD.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 23, 2011, 11:23:23 pm
cooliojazz: Nice. I love the way it looks but perhaps with a little more notebook line blue? Perhaps for the letters? I'm sorry if I'm being rude or overly demanding or pushy, but I have no freaking clue when it comes to website coding.
EDIT: Turns out framelesscomic.tk is already taken D: . Anybody think fc.tk is a bad idea? And yes, I know what it's one letter away from.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on April 24, 2011, 03:28:17 am
What about co.nr ?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 24, 2011, 03:43:36 am
Huh?
/me is confused.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on April 24, 2011, 05:13:18 am
Co.nr is a free domain name. Maybe you can have framelesscomic.co.nr
Here's is a link: http://www.freedomain.co.nr/
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Munchor on April 24, 2011, 07:59:01 am
Co.nr is a free domain name. Maybe you can have framelesscomic.co.nr
Here's is a link: http://www.freedomain.co.nr/

What about co.cc (http://www.co.cc)?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 24, 2011, 12:53:06 pm
Freyaday, like I was saying before, that really was just meant to be a basic layout, I assumed you'd tell me hundreds of little things you'd want changed.  Changing the color of things is no big deal... =P Also, I made the inner bg a bit darker, if you don't want it, just say so. You should really get in contact with me btw... *nudge nudge*
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Deep Toaster on April 24, 2011, 01:11:09 pm
What about co.nr ?

I think they're looking for webcomic layouts, like the one willrandship posted.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on April 24, 2011, 01:12:35 pm
Yes, I know, but Freyaday mentioned that framelesscomic.tk was taken, that's why I wrote that. :)
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Deep Toaster on April 24, 2011, 01:17:32 pm
Oh, sorry, didn't see that.

If you want a "coverup" domain name like .tk (http://www.dot.tk/), .co.nr (http://freedomain.co.nr/) is a great choice. If you already have a host or server for your site but not a domain name, .co.cc (http://www.co.cc/) is a free service.
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Freyaday on April 24, 2011, 02:09:50 pm
It seems .co.cc domains are blocked by Cox, a rather big ISP, so I can't use  that. How would you like me to contact you, cooliojazz?
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: cooliojazz on April 24, 2011, 02:18:51 pm
Well, I already said you could get ahold of me through the ways listed in my profile, but I'll list them here too =P On skype:cooliojazz on msn:[email protected] on gtalk:[email protected] or irc:CoolioJaz
Title: Re: Trying to start a webcomic
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on April 24, 2011, 03:09:49 pm
I just checked if framelesscomic.co.nr is still free, and it is! At the moment I think that's one of the best choises IMHO.