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What time signature is that song?
« on: March 15, 2012, 10:24:29 pm »
I wonder what time signature would be that song? I thought of 4/3, 8/6 or something, but I couldn't find any proper example of those ???

Here's the file attached below. The time signature is exactly the same as most Italobrothers songs. I made two other songs with the same time signature before (Scream and STHUMSOB)

It's basically like eurodance, but between each kickdrums there can be 3 notes instead of 4 and the hi-hat is on the 3rd note (right before the beat).
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 12:12:07 am »
The time signature is still 4/4, just with eighth-note-triplet subdivisions. The kickdrum hits on every count, and the hi-hat is on the third triplet partial of each count. The triplet subdivisons are so fast that you would't ever really consider them to be full beats.

Edit: I guess you could *technically* think of it as 12/8 if you really wanted to, but 12/8 is almost always used as a simpler way to just write triplet-pulsed 4/4 without having to place triplet brackets over every triplet set. Instead of seeing a triplet subdivision over counts that should be triplet pulsed you'd see a duplet subdivision over counts that should be duplet pulsed (like regular 8th notes in 4/4 time).
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 12:25:46 am »
Yeah, seems 4/4 with tons of triplets. Nice style you gave to Magic Hardcore though.

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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 02:24:30 am »
I wonder what time signature would be that song? I thought of 4/3, 8/6 or something, but I couldn't find any proper example of those ???

Here's the file attached below. The time signature is exactly the same as most Italobrothers songs. I made two other songs with the same time signature before (Scream and STHUMSOB)

It's basically like eurodance, but between each kickdrums there can be 3 notes instead of 4 and the hi-hat is on the 3rd note (right before the beat).

It sounds like 2/2 or 2/4, not quite 4/4 but similar as the accented beats happen often, and it's not really in triplets or anything.
And I like this variation on Magic Hardcore ;) Keep going.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 02:36:29 am »
I wonder what time signature would be that song? I thought of 4/3, 8/6 or something, but I couldn't find any proper example of those ???

Here's the file attached below. The time signature is exactly the same as most Italobrothers songs. I made two other songs with the same time signature before (Scream and STHUMSOB)

It's basically like eurodance, but between each kickdrums there can be 3 notes instead of 4 and the hi-hat is on the 3rd note (right before the beat).

It sounds like 2/2 or 2/4, not quite 4/4 but similar as the accented beats happen often, and it's not really in triplets or anything.
And I like this variation on Magic Hardcore ;) Keep going.
No, it's definitely 4/4. The musical phrases are such that 4/4 would make the most sense. Honestly, it's just 4/4 with a triplet pulse. Nothing crazy here...

The kick drum isn't in triplets, the triplet is on the quarter notes. The hi-hat is the one that's on the third triplet partial of each quarter note.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 01:54:47 am »
Ok thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if it mattered or not, since it sounds quite different in general.

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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 07:30:31 pm »
While you can make a case for 4/4, the triplets do suggest 12/8. Another thing that can identify 12/8 is what sounds closer to eighth notes being swung. Because it isn't swing, I would definitely have to say 12/8. It's easier for the sake of actually writing, as opposed to writing out all of those notes with triplet signs above them.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 07:46:03 pm »
That's what I was saying before, however 12/8 is a time signature that is, as you said, used for the sake of writing the music down. 12/8 is functionally 4/4 with a triplet pulse instead of a duplet pulse, so the time signature would most easily be explained as 4/4.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 08:26:57 am »
* Jonius7 still thinks 2/4 cannot be completely ruled out and is perfectly legit :P
The beat is definitely faster than in some other songs.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 12:03:56 pm »
Has there been any progress on this song btw? Or has it been merged into another topic with a different name?
I still think that 2/4 fits the time signature more than just simple 4/4 due to its rapid strong beat :D
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 07:22:55 pm »
speaking of time signature, I have a question. What's the difference between 3/4 and 6/8?
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 07:36:56 pm »
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2012, 03:35:54 pm »
speaking of time signature, I have a question. What's the difference between 3/4 and 6/8?

It's mostly a stylistic thing. Generally, we count 3/4 with 3 beats (each beat a quarter note) and we count 6/8 with 2 beats (each beat 3 8th notes).
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 03:43:36 pm »
ah. Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: What time signature is that song?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 08:41:43 pm »
speaking of time signature, I have a question. What's the difference between 3/4 and 6/8?

It's mostly a stylistic thing. Generally, we count 3/4 with 3 beats (each beat a quarter note) and we count 6/8 with 2 beats (each beat 3 8th notes).

Yeah, 3/4 contains 3 crotchet (1/4) beats, while 6/8 contains 2 dotted crotchet beats or 6 quaver (1/8) pulses

The style of pieces written in 3/4 and 6/8 are usually different.
Eg: 3/4 usually contains crotchets and quavers usually in duplets
but 6/8 usually contains dotted crotchets, crotchets and quavers but quavers can be in tuplets.

I wonder how they say dotted crotchet in american naming? Dotted quarter note?
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