Omnimaga
General Discussion => Technology and Development => Other => Topic started by: rcfreak0 on February 01, 2011, 04:37:15 pm
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Well, I dont know if this has been posted around here yet, or if anyone has heard. But Canada ISP's are going to start charging *alot* more per byte of data and lower the bandwith caps trying to gouge the consumers to pay more money for less internet.
I also found this picture more than fitting. Kinda puts it into perspective.. http://fukung.net/v/37735/afaa25c231739b1aa96cb7628ec8a2d0.png (http://fukung.net/v/37735/afaa25c231739b1aa96cb7628ec8a2d0.png)
You can read more about it here:
http://stopthemeter.ca/ (http://stopthemeter.ca/)
http://www.straight.com/article-370989/vancouver/federal-liberals-come-out-against-usagebased-billing-internet-service (http://www.straight.com/article-370989/vancouver/federal-liberals-come-out-against-usagebased-billing-internet-service)
http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=129909 (http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=129909)
I hope this gets stopped. If you live in Canada, sign the first link.
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This doesn't look good, I know at least 2 people from Canada (in Omnimaga).
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I really hate monopolists forcing their own crappy prices on the market. That is just greedy. I don't know if this is happening on certain regions or most Canada because it is one of the biggest countries.
The best thing that could happen are companies getting into the market with competitive prices. That is a must for having a fair price and quality of service. But it may be impossible if the monopolists detain all the network infrastructures and rent in such a prize that turns impossible for other companies be competitive.
Offtopic: I also don't like prices too much artificially lower than their real costs because generally it can have very negative impact on nature (except for truly nature-friendly materials of course).
But economy is run by many greedy people, so what could you expect? I hope that there are enough reasonable persons to balance it soon enough for the human and Earth life future.
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Yeah I'm upset about this too, I don't think it's going to last that long though with the public protest and all :/
It's a good thing I don't pay for my internet though yet :P
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That diagram is insane. It would be cheaper to ship hard drives across the world, than to pay for the internet stuff. Any info on the GB cap limits?
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Eeems , juju, and DJ are all I know...
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Yeah, the Canadians here are mainly DJ, Eeems and myself.
This sucks. Like the government and big companies never have enough money. This is just plain silly. I'm not effing paying more for less.
Why Canada don't do like Sweden and/or Japan and making anti-monopoly laws so everyone would be free to be their own ISP and offer unlimited 10Gbps?
If it continue, we're going on our way of becoming the worst country ever.
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Yeah, the Canadians here are mainly DJ, Eeems and myself.
This sucks. Like the government and big companies never have enough money. This is just plain silly. I'm not effing paying more for less.
Why Canada don't do like Sweden and/or Japan and making anti-monopoly laws so everyone would be free to be their own ISP and offer unlimited 10Gbps?
If it continue, we're going on our way of becoming the worst country ever.
See, I have mixed feelings about anti-monopoly laws. Half of my is screaming no government intervention in the market, and the other half is screaming way to fail ISP companies. I'm thinking if people petition like they are doing, and don't buy internet, then they still have the power to do it and shouldn't make the laws. In economics, you make decisions with where you spend your money. Granted, it would be difficult for me to go without internet. Hence why they can still charge ridiculous prices.
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This sucks. I remember hearing about this a year ago but I wasn't sure if they would do it. 3 years ago the other Internet plan I had went from unlimited to 100 GB/month. I wonder what it will be next.
What sucks is that there are only two major ISPs here. Then there's Telus and a few resellers, but what if resellers starts to charge more too? This is not to mention they're not always as reliable.
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Well, Vidéotron recently increased their bandwidth limit, but ISPs still makes more money by not being unlimited. Currently, this is what they do: "The usage exceeding the monthly capacity limit of X gigabytes (download and upload combined) will be billed at $Y per gigabyte used up to a maximum of $Z per month." Which is kinda nice if you have a low Z.
I've considered others ISPs, but Telus doesn't come at my home and for the other resellers, even thought they are unlimited, well my mom doesn't really trust them... And the resellers are dependent of Bell, since Bell own the lines, and they just could incrase all their location prices anytime to make more profit and to limit the resellers.
On a side note, this could be better :P
(http://files.julosoft.net/4chan/g/1296626308597.png)
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Yeah, the Canadians here are mainly DJ, Eeems and myself.
This sucks. Like the government and big companies never have enough money. This is just plain silly. I'm not effing paying more for less.
Why Canada don't do like Sweden and/or Japan and making anti-monopoly laws so everyone would be free to be their own ISP and offer unlimited 10Gbps?
If it continue, we're going on our way of becoming the worst country ever.
See, I have mixed feelings about anti-monopoly laws. Half of my is screaming no government intervention in the market, and the other half is screaming way to fail ISP companies. I'm thinking if people petition like they are doing, and don't buy internet, then they still have the power to do it and shouldn't make the laws. In economics, you make decisions with where you spend your money. Granted, it would be difficult for me to go without internet. Hence why they can still charge ridiculous prices.
heh, a little intervention is healthy, as the Canadian economy's stability has shown ;)
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better than egypt though :P
Seriously tohugh, this sounds pretty bad. hopefully the public will protest :D
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Or North Korea/China. :P
I personally don't mind if they charge for using above 100 GB because I rarely get over that limit but if they drop my bandwidth cap to 20 GB or worse, puts it at 0 GB and charge for any MB of data transfer, it's really gonna be hectic. X.x
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This sucks. I hope American ISPs don't pick up on this idea.
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Or North Korea/China. :P
I personally don't mind if they charge for using above 100 GB because I rarely get over that limit but if they drop my bandwidth cap to 20 GB or worse, puts it at 0 GB and charge for any MB of data transfer, it's really gonna be hectic. X.x
and least China gets SOME internet :P
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This sucks. I hope American ISPs don't pick up on this idea.
I kinda doubt it. If they are forced to put bandwidth cap to reduce piracy like they did here last year they're not gonna be able to charge too much, because of the competition. In Canada, in each area there are usually 1 or 2 ISPs. In Quebec there are still certain areas stuck with dial-up.
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Here in Califronia I have at least 5 ISP's to choose from. The advantage is that the competition really drives down prices. Also we are not charged based off how much we download. What we get is a fixed rate unlimited downloads and different packages are different speeds.
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Yeah, this is why I wish there were more here.
As for now, I got 30 megabits/second modem cable internet and they rose my bandwidth cap from 100 GB to 120 GB up/download combined, but it costs $66.95 a month. Here are the other plans: http://www.videotron.com/service/internet-services/internet-access
I heard that in some places you can get basic internet for $10-15. I am ok with my bandwidth cap, but I wish I had more so I could seed a torrent of all my created music...
I think Bell internet is cheaper, but their phone service is much more expensive and their bureaucracy is so terrible (you can get charged twice and they often had lawsuits for that kind of stuff). If you leave them, they send you a sob letter begging you to come back with them. X.x
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When I moved, I had the feeling no ISP at all satisfied my needs and they were all shitty... I took Bell, which is cheaper indeed, I have the 7 Mbits/s with a cap of 100GB/month, which is the best Bell could offer me at my town (I don't know if Vidéotron offers DJ's plan here though...) and, oddly, I didn't got that charge twice problem...
And yes, every ISP still offers 56K dial-up. I even know people who uses them.
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Glad you didn't have that charge twice issue. My mom had this happen every 3 month or so (same for many people at work). I guess it's a different person who take care of the East part of the city.
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Yeah, also the East part used to have more plans than the West part (for example, the Vidéotron phone service were unavailable in Chutes-de-la-Chaudière-West but not in the rest when it first came out).
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True. Actually my Internet plan uses optical fiber and apparently it only started being available where I live a few months ago. Beforehand it was only in Quebec and Montreal.