I'm just amazed that it's the year 2012, and there is still people on this planet that do not know how to use a computer. Sure, if you're like 65 or older, then you're excused, but anything before that there is no excuse as to why you have yet to acquire "computer usage 101" skills considering that almost EVERYTHING now-a-days involves some type of computer. Granted my household didn't own a computer until 1996-1997 when IBM's were still popular as hell, and Windows 95 was still around until Windows 98 was the latest thing being pushed into the hi-tech world shortly after... but even still, my mom handed me a Nintendo controller when I was 2 years old... combine that with the ancient macintosh computers that required those BIG-ASS black floppy discs to run any kind of program that my elementary school had when I was in the 2nd grade, I was still SOMEWHAT familiar with technology as a whole.Well it depends where they live, too, and other factors. For example, in my case, my parents and myself could not afford a computer until 2005 and we got our first computer as a gift in 2004. My mom started using computers regularly in late 2007. As a result, there were big chances we are not tech-savy even in this computer age. While computers are common, they're really expensive (it's hard to find any decent computer under $200 in Canada).
True Story: From 2008-2010 I used to work for a medical billing company, which used those REALLY ancient computers that were just a black screen with orange/green text, and their printers (I kid you not) were those old noisy ones that took FOREVER to print a document and required that special paper you had to align with the printer with the little stubs to slide in the little holes on both sides of the paper. Only the managers had windows based computers, except for one computer in the front of the office which was used mostly by me, the mailroom lady, and this one clerical chick. Would you believe that god forbid if one of the ladies that were glued to the old black & orange/green computers had to use the new windows computer up front, I had to actually stand in back of them and direct them on where to go? Not to mention the questions were just baffling...
Lady: CHRIS, WHATS THIS ON THE SCREEN?!?!
Me: Those are icons... you click them and they open programs
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I GET TO THE FOLDER THE BOSS TOLD ME TO GO TO?!?!
Me: See that folder on the desktop? Double click that, and there ya go
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I LOG OFF?!?!
I'm convinced that people now-a-days have become so lazy that they could care less about learning about anything computer/technology related. In fact, I strongly believe that that is the reason why Windows 7 was created in the first place. After all, why do anything on YOUR computer when the computer can do it for you? Seriously, it's bad when I have to go into command prompt, type in "net user administrator /active:yes", and then delete the default account, just so I don't have to see the computer go "YOU ARE ABOUT TO OPEN THIS PROGRAM!! ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THIS??? WAIT, IT MIGHT NOT BE SAFE!!! ARE YOU POSITIVE YOU WANNA DO THIS?!?! PLEASE RE THINK THIS!!! ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?!?!"
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3. I was working on a Doom mod once during free time in English class (CP english -.-), a kid said "OH GUYS, PIEXIL'S HACKING" :banghead:You could have been hacking.
4. Everyday, people ask if I sill "Hack" :'(
3. I was working on a Doom mod once during free time in English class (CP english -.-), a kid said "OH GUYS, PIEXIL'S HACKING" :banghead:You could have been hacking.
4. Everyday, people ask if I sill "Hack" :'(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28programmer_subculture%29
He talks a lot and uses big words. To most people, it will sound like he knows what he is saying.In my case, when I got my calc in school, I was considered the one who knew the most about calcs. The sad thing, however, is that despite me having 3 months of calc experience and just barely discovering how Lbl/Goto works and how to graph an equation properly, it was actually true. That tells how much other people had troubles using their calcs (they only really knew to do some stuff because the teacher would show how in front of the class from time to time)
But if you know what the big words mean or you know about the topic he is talking about, you understand that nothing he says makes sense :P
I was playing Mario on my nspire and someone came up to me like, "OMG IZ MINECRAFZ!"
:facepalm:
System of a Down
I'm just amazed that it's the year 2012, and there is still people on this planet that do not know how to use a computer. Sure, if you're like 65 or older, then you're excused, but anything before that there is no excuse as to why you have yet to acquire "computer usage 101" skills considering that almost EVERYTHING now-a-days involves some type of computer. Granted my household didn't own a computer until 1996-1997 when IBM's were still popular as hell, and Windows 95 was still around until Windows 98 was the latest thing being pushed into the hi-tech world shortly after... but even still, my mom handed me a Nintendo controller when I was 2 years old... combine that with the ancient macintosh computers that required those BIG-ASS black floppy discs to run any kind of program that my elementary school had when I was in the 2nd grade, I was still SOMEWHAT familiar with technology as a whole.Well it depends where they live, too, and other factors. For example, in my case, my parents and myself could not afford a computer until 2005 and we got our first computer as a gift in 2004. My mom started using computers regularly in late 2007. As a result, there were big chances we are not tech-savy even in this computer age. While computers are common, they're really expensive (it's hard to find any decent computer under $200 in Canada).
True Story: From 2008-2010 I used to work for a medical billing company, which used those REALLY ancient computers that were just a black screen with orange/green text, and their printers (I kid you not) were those old noisy ones that took FOREVER to print a document and required that special paper you had to align with the printer with the little stubs to slide in the little holes on both sides of the paper. Only the managers had windows based computers, except for one computer in the front of the office which was used mostly by me, the mailroom lady, and this one clerical chick. Would you believe that god forbid if one of the ladies that were glued to the old black & orange/green computers had to use the new windows computer up front, I had to actually stand in back of them and direct them on where to go? Not to mention the questions were just baffling...
Lady: CHRIS, WHATS THIS ON THE SCREEN?!?!
Me: Those are icons... you click them and they open programs
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I GET TO THE FOLDER THE BOSS TOLD ME TO GO TO?!?!
Me: See that folder on the desktop? Double click that, and there ya go
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I LOG OFF?!?!
I'm convinced that people now-a-days have become so lazy that they could care less about learning about anything computer/technology related. In fact, I strongly believe that that is the reason why Windows 7 was created in the first place. After all, why do anything on YOUR computer when the computer can do it for you? Seriously, it's bad when I have to go into command prompt, type in "net user administrator /active:yes", and then delete the default account, just so I don't have to see the computer go "YOU ARE ABOUT TO OPEN THIS PROGRAM!! ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THIS??? WAIT, IT MIGHT NOT BE SAFE!!! ARE YOU POSITIVE YOU WANNA DO THIS?!?! PLEASE RE THINK THIS!!! ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?!?!"
But yeah it's best to point new computer users in the right direction (politely) if they need really basic help, as in telling them to google or search specific stuff to find their answer and teach them how to solve issues themselves. Of course some problems might require assistance but if everyone who needed simple help asked us it would become out of control.
Personally, however, what I really can't stand is when I tell someone to click somewhere and even if I point him where to click with my finger, he still cannot see the thing I am talking about. Are they blind? ???
Also in some of our case, we will end up being less comfortable with new technologies in a few decades since we did not live with them. Eg I was born in the NES/SNES era, and did not always have the most recent consoles. As a result, when I switched to big 3D shooters I had a lot of troubles getting used to dual joystick controls.
It's best to not be narrow-minded, though, since everyone gotta start somewhere and we need to take in account people who never had the chance to get regular computer access in their early life. They say past 20 or so, it's considerably harder to learn new stuff and then it gets harder and harder for many people. If, for example, you were in a monoparental, poor family, are too old or if you got JustCause or SirCmpwn's parents, then it's almost guaranteed you could not have computer access more than one or two hours a week and that access was very restricted.
Note, however, that there are certain people who asks "stupid" questions who might be trolling, though. (eg the "I accidentally 95 MB of rar files. Is that bad?" type of question) They might actually be tech-savy, but will just act n00bish online for the purpose of wasting people time or making them laugh. :P
For me, I disagree with what you said.I'm just amazed that it's the year 2012, and there is still people on this planet that do not know how to use a computer. Sure, if you're like 65 or older, then you're excused, but anything before that there is no excuse as to why you have yet to acquire "computer usage 101" skills considering that almost EVERYTHING now-a-days involves some type of computer. Granted my household didn't own a computer until 1996-1997 when IBM's were still popular as hell, and Windows 95 was still around until Windows 98 was the latest thing being pushed into the hi-tech world shortly after... but even still, my mom handed me a Nintendo controller when I was 2 years old... combine that with the ancient macintosh computers that required those BIG-ASS black floppy discs to run any kind of program that my elementary school had when I was in the 2nd grade, I was still SOMEWHAT familiar with technology as a whole.Well it depends where they live, too, and other factors. For example, in my case, my parents and myself could not afford a computer until 2005 and we got our first computer as a gift in 2004. My mom started using computers regularly in late 2007. As a result, there were big chances we are not tech-savy even in this computer age. While computers are common, they're really expensive (it's hard to find any decent computer under $200 in Canada).
True Story: From 2008-2010 I used to work for a medical billing company, which used those REALLY ancient computers that were just a black screen with orange/green text, and their printers (I kid you not) were those old noisy ones that took FOREVER to print a document and required that special paper you had to align with the printer with the little stubs to slide in the little holes on both sides of the paper. Only the managers had windows based computers, except for one computer in the front of the office which was used mostly by me, the mailroom lady, and this one clerical chick. Would you believe that god forbid if one of the ladies that were glued to the old black & orange/green computers had to use the new windows computer up front, I had to actually stand in back of them and direct them on where to go? Not to mention the questions were just baffling...
Lady: CHRIS, WHATS THIS ON THE SCREEN?!?!
Me: Those are icons... you click them and they open programs
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I GET TO THE FOLDER THE BOSS TOLD ME TO GO TO?!?!
Me: See that folder on the desktop? Double click that, and there ya go
Lady: CHRIS, HOW DO I LOG OFF?!?!
I'm convinced that people now-a-days have become so lazy that they could care less about learning about anything computer/technology related. In fact, I strongly believe that that is the reason why Windows 7 was created in the first place. After all, why do anything on YOUR computer when the computer can do it for you? Seriously, it's bad when I have to go into command prompt, type in "net user administrator /active:yes", and then delete the default account, just so I don't have to see the computer go "YOU ARE ABOUT TO OPEN THIS PROGRAM!! ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THIS??? WAIT, IT MIGHT NOT BE SAFE!!! ARE YOU POSITIVE YOU WANNA DO THIS?!?! PLEASE RE THINK THIS!!! ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?!?!"
But yeah it's best to point new computer users in the right direction (politely) if they need really basic help, as in telling them to google or search specific stuff to find their answer and teach them how to solve issues themselves. Of course some problems might require assistance but if everyone who needed simple help asked us it would become out of control.
Personally, however, what I really can't stand is when I tell someone to click somewhere and even if I point him where to click with my finger, he still cannot see the thing I am talking about. Are they blind? ???
Also in some of our case, we will end up being less comfortable with new technologies in a few decades since we did not live with them. Eg I was born in the NES/SNES era, and did not always have the most recent consoles. As a result, when I switched to big 3D shooters I had a lot of troubles getting used to dual joystick controls.
It's best to not be narrow-minded, though, since everyone gotta start somewhere and we need to take in account people who never had the chance to get regular computer access in their early life. They say past 20 or so, it's considerably harder to learn new stuff and then it gets harder and harder for many people. If, for example, you were in a monoparental, poor family, are too old or if you got JustCause or SirCmpwn's parents, then it's almost guaranteed you could not have computer access more than one or two hours a week and that access was very restricted.
Note, however, that there are certain people who asks "stupid" questions who might be trolling, though. (eg the "I accidentally 95 MB of rar files. Is that bad?" type of question) They might actually be tech-savy, but will just act n00bish online for the purpose of wasting people time or making them laugh. :P
While I do agree with a few of your points, it's still blatantly obvious that the majority of society now-a-days needs everything to be spoon fed
It's like comparing video games to back in the 90's to video games today. Now-a-days, almost every game has some sort of "lesson" mode or "tutorial" mode that tells the person how to play then game, when they can easily get that same information just by reading the INSTRUCTION BOOK that came with the game. Apparently when videogames became a little more mainstream, they started treating videogamers (whether casual or hardcore) like they just had a lobotomy. That kind of behavior and thinking is part of the reason why people are dumbfounded when it comes to most technology, because they don't have anyone to tell them "hey, these are the buttons, this is what they do". Now when it came to back in the 90's, games like Sonic or Final Fantasy didnt have any tutorial modes or lesson modes, they just threw you right into the game, leaving you to figure out exactly what to do, who to kill, what to avoid, yadda yadda yadda. Eventually all the skills you would acquire with those games would benefit you with other newer games that would raise the bar and up the challenge for the same players that were trained (so to speak) from whatever game they were glued to for so long.
Which brings me back to my point... you've seen one piece of technology/computer equipment, you've seen them all. Computers will always look like computers, and handle like computers... cell phones will always look like cell phones and handle like cell phones. It's just with each passing year, something new is added, and if you've learned from the past on how to work something (on your own), you'll eventualy get the hang of working that other thing. Before I got my T-Mobile Sidekick 4G, I had the T-Mobile Sidekick 3. Obviously the 3 model is not android based, but considering that I taught myself how to operate a computer, and a cell phone, I was able to use both of those skills to eventually figure out how to work my android phone (which took like 10 minutes, not including actually getting deep down into the settings menu, which took another 10 minutes TOPS).
It all goes back to that "actually making an effort" and "people being too lazy" point I mentioned before
It's same thing as how some people might learn math or science really well in school, while others are better in learning language or history, or music, dance, etc. It's all based on how their brain functions.
If I borrow your example on T-Mobile Sidekick 4G, what happens if you never used Sidekick 3 before that? What happens, if you were using lets say an old nokia phone, and then decided to upgrade it to iphone 4?
Yeah I mean how most people I knew IRL that liked them only liked that band, and for them, everything else sucked.System of a Down
I love System, but jesus. No one on my school but my friends who like the same music as me do.
Even one of the girls who love "metal" (The stuff that's really not metal, like BFMV) didn't know who they were.
I mean, we have to remember that everyone is different and I would absolutely dislike if on this forums, when someone new came and asked a rather simple question, people just called him names and tried to do everything to make him leave (actually such behavior here usually led to an instant permban before).
how do I turn the computer on?
Heres the dummest thing Ive heardHow I turn the calc on?Quote from: My brotherhow do I turn the computer on?
I have a better oneHeres the dummest thing Ive heardHow I turn the calc on?Quote from: My brotherhow do I turn the computer on?
Heres the dummest thing Ive heardTo be honest, older computers seemed slightly harder to turn ON than newer ones. As kid, I often seen ones with 2 or 3 buttons, and I was kinda scared of pressing them in case it broke something lol. Usually you had a turbo button and a power one. Now all you got is the power button. For a computer illiterate person, any computer should still be easy to turn ON unless it's a Mac (where most of the time, there's no actual button).Quote from: My brotherhow do I turn the computer on?
All right. If I take this marker (was a smartboard one), can I still erase it then?
OK!I have a better oneHeres the dummest thing Ive heardHow I turn the calc on?Quote from: My brotherhow do I turn the computer on?
"How do I write a program?"
or
"Teach me how to program really quickly!"
#define quickly 1
print('Your defenition of quickly is'+quickly+'minutes');
if(quickly<=30){
print('... are you insane?');
}
I once had a kid ask me if I could make him a paintball game that took place in our school. I said sure, it'll take me about a week to get a beta version to see how they like it. He asked me why it would take so long to make a beta, and then he asked if I could have it completely finished by the next day. I said there's no way I could have it finished tomorrow and that programming was hard and took time...etc. So I then asked him what he thought programming was. Here's what he thought it was: He thought you went to a website, typed in the title of the game and what kind of game it was and you clicked a button. And poof there it was.I wish Axe Parser had a Crysis() axiom command O.O
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
what does that do? never heard of it öCrysis() would insert crysis into the program (crysis is a PC game)
what does that do? never heard of it öCrysis() would insert crysis into the program (crysis is a PC game)
www.downloadmoreram.com
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5s0kNc3eu14/RqK4vPz2PgI/AAAAAAAABDw/ciyaiHhtMlk/s1600/Picture%2B1.png)gratuitous ascii art :P
Notice that this is an image.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5s0kNc3eu14/RqK4vPz2PgI/AAAAAAAABDw/ciyaiHhtMlk/s1600/Picture%2B1.png)O.o Why did they do Ascii art without Ascii characters ?
Notice that this is an image.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5s0kNc3eu14/RqK4vPz2PgI/AAAAAAAABDw/ciyaiHhtMlk/s1600/Picture%2B1.png)Pretty clear to me, don't see what it has to do with the topic :P
Notice that this is an image.
Well they used an image to show ascii art instead of directly do ascii art :P(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5s0kNc3eu14/RqK4vPz2PgI/AAAAAAAABDw/ciyaiHhtMlk/s1600/Picture%2B1.png)Pretty clear to me, don't see what it has to do with the topic :P
Notice that this is an image.
If I remember, I heard someone looking for a copy of Linux in a retail store. Granted, Linux has some paid distros, but I think he was looking for Ubuntu, even though it's available for free online.I have seen ubuntu disks in stores before. They might have been looking for one of those. Some people don't want/can't burn their own disks for distros so most of the big ones sell disks
they did use to put a number of songs on packaging :PYaaaay I'm gonna put 100.000 megamixes on my ipod nano!
Girl at School(With a TI-83+): I want to make a program with my name as the title. How do I make a new program?It's also funny how most people I know that have a graphing calc have a program with as name their own name, with just some random stuff typed in it. They think that when it asks for a name, you have to fill in your own name instaed of the name you want to give to your program.
Me: *grabs calculator and makes program(takes less than 5 seconds)* *Hands calculator back*
Girl: Wow! That was fast! Thanks!
Not trying to make fun, but really?
To them it's an organizer/phone book/calculator.Girl at School(With a TI-83+): I want to make a program with my name as the title. How do I make a new program?It's also funny how most people I know that have a graphing calc have a program with as name their own name, with just some random stuff typed in it. They think that when it asks for a name, you have to fill in your own name instaed of the name you want to give to your program.
Me: *grabs calculator and makes program(takes less than 5 seconds)* *Hands calculator back*
Girl: Wow! That was fast! Thanks!
Not trying to make fun, but really?
Even funnyer is that they often don't even know they made a program, and sometimes they don't even know the calc can run programs.
ya, they exist.I remember when I was in China I got a 16g flash drive (this was 7 years ago). At first it worked, and I was copying over pictures from my cousin's camera into it. Suddenly it told me it was out of space...So I checked how big the picture folder was... (Windows XP)
Same kinda thing happens on ebay. They will turn 2 gig into '200' gigs and sell them :/