Post by: Halifax on October 10, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
welcome back btw :)
Post by: Halifax on October 10, 2007, 01:29:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
j/k don't do this maybe Nintendo would find out and sue you or me lol x.x
Post by: Halifax on October 10, 2007, 01:57:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 10, 2007, 02:10:00 pm
one reason why i didn't bother with it after awhile was that my anti-virus just hated the devkitpro tool chain. I just deleted it after awhile, but I might try again later. they will try to rewrite stuff to look less like malware.
the other reason was I don't have a DS, and everyone tells me there is no point in using a DS emu because crashing the DS doesn't hurt it at all, in comparison to a calc and your valuable programs. Not to mention the emus are still in the works. Unfortunately, that means buying some dev hardware, almost all are associated w/ pirating so be careful who you buy from.
might look into it in the future when and if I get a DS :)
you could always talk to tr1p1ea when he returns
Post by: Halifax on October 10, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
maybe there was a virus of this name before <_<
I am personally gonna try java if I try comp stuff again
Post by: necro on October 10, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2007, 05:02:00 pm
Post by: Radical Pi on October 10, 2007, 10:54:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 11, 2007, 08:46:00 am
Post by: Liazon on October 11, 2007, 10:36:00 am
afaik, most people just use C/ASM hack or ARM ASM. In reality, DS hardware takes care of everything provided you tell it what to do. you just list your tiles in mem, send the other mem the tile map, and then use another mem sector for info about the sprites like position and stuff and transparency, then it just does everything for you. Oh ya, there's a mem sector for palette ^^
The hard part is getting good sprites and tiles. And I thought b/w and gs sprites were hard X.X
Post by: Halifax on October 11, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 11, 2007, 06:55:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 12, 2007, 10:26:00 am
For key input, iirc, there's a special register(special memory) that's always reading the keys, so all you need to read that memory to see what keys are being pressed.
sound is complicated. I don't know anything about it on DS/GBA. GBA is generally easier because DS is GBA + extra stuff from what I hear.
You might like it Kevin.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 12, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
Post by: lordofthegeeks on October 12, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 12, 2007, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 12, 2007, 04:18:00 pm
Post by: JonimusPrime on October 12, 2007, 04:49:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 12, 2007, 06:19:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 12, 2007, 06:29:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 13, 2007, 12:32:00 pm
| QUOTE (Radical Pi @ 11 Oct, 2007, 4:54) |
| I was going to consider getting into DS dev. I got as far as buying the DS-X only to find that it was part of a faulty production batch. I decided to give up there... |
where'd you buy it from?
@ DJ_Omnimaga: they generally add more features to Java w/ every new release. i duno if it's actually changed that much, but from what everyone tells me it implements object orient programming better than C++
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 13, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 14, 2007, 09:10:00 am
although i hear it's not hard to learn C++ after Java, or Java after C++, so it's still a good starting place :)
Post by: Madskillz on October 14, 2007, 11:31:00 am
I have never done any DS programming, I have messed with some psp coding and the tool chain for that is a pain to setup, but I havent had any other problems with that.
Good luck with DS coding, I wouldn't mind branching over or back and forth, but I got a lot of calc projects to wrap up first, perhaps next year I can devote more time.
Post by: Halifax on October 14, 2007, 12:58:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 15, 2007, 02:52:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 15, 2007, 02:54:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 15, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 15, 2007, 03:00:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 15, 2007, 03:07:00 pm
although it'd be pretty sweet to go up to someone and show them a DS game you made :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 15, 2007, 03:13:00 pm
Post by: TIfanx1999 on October 15, 2007, 03:55:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 16, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 16, 2007, 01:33:00 pm
Also I wouldn't say that colors would make spriting harder. For example, it would use the same basis as gs spriting where you stick with basically 4 reds for clothing instead of being restricted to dark or bright gray clothing, etc. So you can make more variations on clothing like yellow, blue, red, green, etc.
Either way I think that DS development would be very cool, but a group project unless small is kind of unrealistic for many reasons.
Post by: Liazon on October 17, 2007, 12:44:00 pm
offtopic: did you know MS had their own program similar to Corel Painter / Photoshop / Gimp? It was pretty impressive, but I heard it was discontinued, which might be why I didn't know about it.
@Halifax: where do you plan to buy your hardware from?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on October 17, 2007, 12:48:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 17, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 17, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
Now that I talk about it it has been ages since I played this game of mine O_O
(last time was before I started ROL3 IIRC)
Post by: Liazon on October 17, 2007, 03:31:00 pm
| QUOTE (Halifax @ 17 Oct, 2007, 20:18) |
| Liazon: What do you mean hardware? |
DSX or other flash cart devices
Post by: Halifax on October 17, 2007, 03:42:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 18, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 18, 2007, 02:07:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 18, 2007, 02:52:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 18, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
| QUOTE (Halifax @ 18 Oct, 2007, 20:07) |
| Oh I don't use online vendors. I get it straight from the stores at EB Games since it is right down the street from me(more like 1 mile, which is a fairly short bike ride). |
I didn't know they sold that kind of stuff. I always thought that since pirating was illegal, they'd be in trouble if they sold it
why don't you put this in the projects? i mean sdl
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 18, 2007, 03:19:00 pm
Post by: bfr on October 18, 2007, 03:47:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 18, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
I hope to see both come out anyway x.x
Post by: TIfanx1999 on October 19, 2007, 12:48:00 pm
Post by: bfr on October 19, 2007, 12:59:00 pm
| QUOTE |
Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library designed to provide low level access to audio, keyboard, mouse, joystick, 3D hardware via OpenGL, and 2D video framebuffer. It is used by MPEG playback software, emulators, and many popular games, including the award winning Linux port of "Civilization: Call To Power." |
Post by: TIfanx1999 on October 19, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on October 20, 2007, 12:58:00 am
Post by: Halifax on October 20, 2007, 04:25:00 am
btw ClosedGL is pretty fast since the author implemented that floating point library. The only thing I wish is that he released the source before leaving the community so that someone could improve it by writing it in assembly, and possibly optimizing his library. :/
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 20, 2007, 08:08:00 am
Post by: Liazon on October 20, 2007, 12:56:00 pm
I remember that :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 20, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
Post by: JoostinOnline on November 09, 2007, 08:57:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 09, 2007, 12:44:00 pm
Nice to see you here btw :)
Post by: Liazon on November 09, 2007, 02:58:00 pm
thanks for the link btw, but I'd prefer to be able to buy them from a physical store location like everyone else seems to be doing (duno how, but ya).