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Title: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 06:21:21 am

Look at what I got in my mail today :D
(http://img.ourl.ca/CIMG4039-small.jpg)

Specs:

CPU:
Intel Xeon 1230v3
http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1230-v3-8m-cache-3_30-ghz (http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1230-v3-8m-cache-3_30-ghz)

GPU:
Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4795#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4795#sp)

Mobo:
Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4566#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4566#sp)

HDD:
1TB

SSD:
128GB

PSU:
530W

RAM:
2 x 4GB DDR3

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on April 19, 2014, 06:29:47 am

Haha ! I received something in my mail yesterday too, it was two official GameCube controllers. I guess we both had the same reaction, like "We're gonna have fun with this thing" (quote from Wolf O'Donnell) :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 19, 2014, 07:25:52 am

OMG BOXES! :P You should post specs if you haven't yet. Also, gonna be ordering my PC parts soon. I need to update my thread as well, because the premise of the build has changed quite drastically.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 19, 2014, 07:29:07 am

YAY Xeon! I never understood why anybody would need i7 or i5 if there are way better ones for the same price!
But don't forget to make a BIOS update, Gigabyte mainboards have some problems with newer Xeons if the BIOS isn't recent enough.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on April 19, 2014, 07:37:06 am

Quote from: Vogtinator on April 19, 2014, 07:29:07 am

YAY Xeon! I never understood why anybody would need i7 or i5 if there are way better ones for the same price!

In my case because laptops with Xeons are pretty rare :P
And my laptop runs all the games I want for now (including AC4, the one everyone complains about it not running on newer desktops) so I didn't need anything higher.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 09:18:38 am

I got a little issue: it won't turn on.
Well, there is power on it for like a second, but that's it.
Any ideas?

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: aeTIos on April 19, 2014, 09:31:01 am

Must be the power supply.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 09:41:53 am

Um, figured it out, kinda didn't see that the CPU needs power too :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: pimathbrainiac on April 19, 2014, 10:31:43 am

Quote from: Vogtinator on April 19, 2014, 07:29:07 am

YAY Xeon! I never understood why anybody would need i7 or i5 if there are way better ones for the same price!
But don't forget to make a BIOS update, Gigabyte mainboards have some problems with newer Xeons if the BIOS isn't recent enough.

Shoulda been AMD :P AMD is best pony.
jk :P

Anyways, looks nice! What parts are you recycling (from your old computer), if I may ask?

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 19, 2014, 11:01:22 am

Well, my boxes look about 20% cooler but that's still awesome. :P Also, the game.
By the way, I indeed think Xeon are a better solution especially if you go for a discrete GPU (and who doesn't ?). I heard that Lucidlogix can improve performance by quite a bit though. I have an i7 3770k and it rocks anyway. I dunno what's the difference between shared/non shared L3 cache though since you mentioned that. :/

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 19, 2014, 11:28:55 am

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By the way, I indeed think Xeon are a better solution especially if you go for a discrete GPU (and who doesn't ?)

There are also Xeons with integrated Graphics, they end with 5, at School we have 2 E3-1245v2 and 1 E3-1245v3 in our servers.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 02:45:56 pm

OK, i'm using this sucker right now :D
I hope the catalyst drivers of the unofficial repo https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst are good enough :)

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 19, 2014, 02:55:02 pm

Well, they are reportedly not as fast for 2D stuff but they are much faster at 3D than the open source radeon driver. Thing is, if you want all the Linux stuff use radeon, if you want performance use Catalyst.
BTW do you use UEFI boot ? I think you can convert if you don't already because it's way better than BIOS.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 03:11:35 pm

Um, i actually have no idea, lol

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 19, 2014, 04:12:05 pm

Did you even tweak your BIOS settings ? :P Also if you installed GRUB the ususal way you probably don't use UEFI boot.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 04:17:39 pm

i did
grub-install --target=blahblahblah --recheck /dev/sda

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 19, 2014, 04:18:10 pm

Well, you use BIOS boot. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 07:35:39 am

Eh, i need to get a new case because the fan of the case (which came with it, already attached) makes a ticking noise as it hits the case somewhere >.<

Uh, i also have a little issue. I have the feeling I can't run anything that requires OpenGL

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 03:55:42 pm

Try to run Mupen64plus or something.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 03:57:32 pm

what is that?
Anyways, i think i fixed it by installing the catalyst-hooks package

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: willrandship on April 20, 2014, 04:02:21 pm

The easy way to test if you have opengl acceleration is to use the glx programs in mesa.

So, sudo pacman -S mesa.

glxinfo | grep rendering

That should give you a line that says either yes or no. Yes means you have some form of opengl acceleration.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:10:13 pm

mesa is a third-party driver, though, and i have now the AMD drivers (with direct rendering yes, so with opengl) which are supposivley better than the open source ones.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 04:22:42 pm

Gallium 3D is the driver. Mesa is the libgl and the tools. You can use the Mesa tools without the rest though.
Also each driver has its advantages.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:24:24 pm

well, pacman keeps telling me mesa-libgl and catalyst-libgl are in conflict, so i guess i'll rather keep catalyst-libgl

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 20, 2014, 04:25:53 pm

KDE has it's own tool for OpenGL diagnostics: "kcmshell4 opengl".
And just to remind you: Did you update your BIOS yet?

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:26:39 pm

I use XFCE4 and I have no idea how D:

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 04:29:18 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:24:24 pm

well, pacman keeps telling me mesa-libgl and catalyst-libgl are in conflict, so i guess i'll rather keep catalyst-libgl

Can't you install mesa w/o mesa-libgl ? It's not in the dependence list.
Also, Mupen64plus is an N64 emu.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:31:20 pm

Quote from: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 04:29:18 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 04:24:24 pm
well, pacman keeps telling me mesa-libgl and catalyst-libgl are in conflict, so i guess i'll rather keep catalyst-libgl
Can't you install mesa w/o mesa-libgl ? It's not in the dependence list.
Also, Mupen64plus is an N64 emu.

*.* need to get it.
Also, aparently i already had mesa installed <_<

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 20, 2014, 04:46:00 pm

Just go into the "GIGABYTE 3D BIOS" and select Q-Flash. You need to download the BIOS update, extract the .exe with wine and copy the image onto a FAT32-formatted floppy or USB drive.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 05:28:32 pm

Just noticed that it says at the top "UEFI Dual BIOS", lol, so I am not going to update the BIOS as they say it is risky and you shall only do so if the bios isn't working correctly.

Also, just noticed it has a ultra-fast boot option, lol

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 20, 2014, 06:06:59 pm

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Just noticed that it says at the top "UEFI Dual BIOS", lol, so I am not going to update the BIOS as they say it is risky and you shall only do so if the bios isn't working correctly.

Also, just noticed it has a ultra-fast boot option, lol

Dual BIOS means if you brick one, it can still boot using the other. Basically unbrickable.
And if you don't update, it will crash randomly. Just freeze, sometimes reset.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 06:15:26 pm

Apparently there has never been an update for my Sapphire 7970 OC w/ boost though. But definitely update the mobo's BIOS. I did it like twice although idk what it adds. :P It's still a good idea to do it. Asus boards have an anti brick system and I wouldn't be surprised that others have something like that.

Oh btw your PC is definitely good enough to run Dolphin (GameCube/Wii emu). :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 06:47:13 pm

Eh, i got a little issue, i enabled this ultra-fast boot on my bios and now i can't get into it anymore D:

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 06:50:58 pm

Well, ultra fast boot is for Wincrap 8 uefi boot AFAIK.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 06:52:17 pm

well, i can't disable it because i can't enter the bios :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 07:07:15 pm

Lol reset the CMOS. :P Read the mobo manual for info as this varies for every model.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 20, 2014, 07:33:48 pm

It doesn't say it O.O
The only way i can think of right now is by removing the bios battery but i don't feel like doing that really :P
Also, the reason why I can't enter bios is that on ultra-fast boot aparently it won't detect usb stuff until after booting or something <_<

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 20, 2014, 07:50:32 pm

Jup, that's Ultra-Fast boot. Just don't enable anything "Ultra" "Mega" "Super" "3D" "Advanced" "Hyper" "Intelligent".
And to reset the BIOS, you don't need to take the battery out. Just put in the CMOS_CLR jumper and turn it on.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 08:00:05 pm

Removing the bios battery actually resets the CMOS. :P
Also I always remove the battery and set the clr-rtc jumper on my Asus board, wait some then put everything back. Maybe it's not the right way. XD

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 20, 2014, 08:05:36 pm

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Removing the bios battery actually resets the CMOS.

It doesn't. Most mainboards have an EEPROM. Just the RTC doesn't get updated.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 08:50:24 pm

Oh well maybe. But you don't need to turn the PC on with my board. As I said, I just remove the battery then set the jumper for a couple seconds before setting it back and putting back the battery. All that with power off ofc (hell, I have to remove the GPU to access the battery on my board :P).

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: shmibs on April 20, 2014, 08:55:45 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on April 19, 2014, 04:17:39 pm

i did
grub-install --target=blahblahblah --recheck /dev/sda

unless you're dual booting, using grub is pointless; it just slows down your startup. take a look at gummiboot.

Quote from: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 08:00:05 pm

Removing the bios battery actually resets the CMOS. :P
Also I always remove the battery and set the clr-rtc jumper on my Asus board, wait some then put everything back. Maybe it's not the right way. XD

what do you mean by "The CMOS"? there's one inside literally every single transistor in the board :P

EDIT: you could also just turn the machine on and then off again before it can complete a POST. the next time you turn it on, it will probably complain about a failed boot and give you the option to go to the boot menu and change settings. alternatively, disconnect all network and disc connections :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 03:05:28 am

Hmmm, by CMOS I mean CMOS settings of course. It's just a way to name the system settings memory. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 21, 2014, 09:37:44 am

/me pokes Sorunome to post the computer stats. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 09:50:43 am

With so many members with beefy PCs now we'll have to compare benchmark scores. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on April 21, 2014, 01:47:40 pm

Quote from: Streetwalrus on April 20, 2014, 06:15:26 pm

Oh btw your PC is definitely good enough to run Dolphin (GameCube/Wii emu). :P

My laptop is, we play SSBM and SSBB on it sometimes :P
I even have adapters to plug 4 GC controllers :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 01:51:11 pm

Oh lol I just use a PS3 controller and run Twilight Princess and SSBB like noone can (1680*1050 letterboxed to 16:9). :P I also have a great audio setup (2.0 with a subwoofer).

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on April 21, 2014, 01:55:23 pm

Quote from: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 01:51:11 pm

Oh lol I just use a PS3 controller and run Twilight Princess and SSBB like noone can (1680*1050 letterboxed to 16:9). :P I also have a great audio setup (2.0 with a subwoofer).

Like noone ? I play Brawl in 1920x1080 (3 times native résolution) with an AR code to make it run faster than the original game, still displaying 100% when I am plugged on the sector :P
However, it doesn't run that well on battery -.-

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 02:04:38 pm

LOL I also have pretty much all settings on accuracy/quality over speed. :P
Also not sector but mains. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on April 21, 2014, 02:06:02 pm

Ah yeah, I have the contrary, hence maybe why Fountains Of Dreams has black squares all over the place in SSBM. But since I did not notice any other problem, I let it like that :)

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 21, 2014, 03:34:35 pm

Oh, right, specs.

CPU:
Intel Xeon 1230v3
http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1230-v3-8m-cache-3_30-ghz (http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1230-v3-8m-cache-3_30-ghz)

GPU:
Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4795#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4795#sp)

Mobo:
Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4566#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4566#sp)

HDD:
1TB

SSD:
128GB

PSU:
530W

RAM:
2 x 4GB DDR3

Also, on the bootloader, i heard something about EFI bootloaders being quickers?

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 21, 2014, 03:40:31 pm

Jup, they are. But the EFI initialization takes a bit longer. Anyway, UEFI is crap.
And why only 8GB RAM? For today's standards that's low-end :P
And you should definitively update your BIOS, the latest version has the following new feature: "Support New 4th Generation Intel Core Processors", your Xeon is one of them.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 21, 2014, 03:48:17 pm

IDK, maybe my BIOS is already up-to-date, i'll try anyways :P

Also, only 8GB ram because it is so expensive these days, 8GB for 55€ O.O

EDIT: it said something like invalid bios id on attempting the update

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 21, 2014, 05:49:12 pm

Not a bad setup Sorunome. :D

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Vogtinator on April 21, 2014, 05:58:45 pm

Quote

EDIT: it said something like invalid bios id on attempting the update

You're sure you got the right mainboard? :P
But it might be that your BIOS is already updated, you should see F(checking gigabyte page for version number...
WOW! I got THIS (http://asdf.fdg-ab.de/crash.html) (Rehosted))

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 21, 2014, 06:07:49 pm

I looked but couldn't find the version number <_<
I guess i'll just leave the bios as it is then atm

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 06:44:09 pm

Quote from: Vogtinator on April 21, 2014, 03:40:31 pm

Jup, they are. But the EFI initialization takes a bit longer. Anyway, UEFI is crap.
And why only 8GB RAM? For today's standards that's low-end :P
And you should definitively update your BIOS, the latest version has the following new feature: "Support New 4th Generation Intel Core Processors", your Xeon is one of them.

Xeon != Core. :P
/me runs

Also, UEFI may contain tons of junk, it is still much more modern than using a plain boot sector. Faster boot aside, it is easier to manage (you get user land utilities for that in most OS's) and makes multi booting a breeze (multiple bootloaders yay). I use rEFInd as my boot menu and it can boot Win7 from the ESP boot loader and Linux EFIstub from my btrfs /boot partition too.
So yeah, I'd recommend using it as much as possible. If my GPU supported UEFI GOP, I'd already have CSM completely out of the window. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: pimathbrainiac on April 21, 2014, 06:50:39 pm

What is absolute crap is having to dual boot with Win8 (UEFI) and Ubuntu (EFI), because you can't use the Win8 bootloader to boot Ubuntu, so you have to use GRUB as your dual boot bootloader.

Fine, when you install Win8 second, but when installing Ubuntu over Win8, it's a pain.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: XiiDraco on April 21, 2014, 06:54:09 pm

XD I know EXACTLY how you feel! been there done that.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 21, 2014, 06:55:36 pm

OK, just before this topic derails or something, i will NOT change my BIOS and bootloader stuff, as it is booting already very quick (within like 3 seconds) and i'm totally fine with waiting 3 seconds :)
Also, please don't turn this into a fighting over bootloader or BIOS vs UEFI or whatever.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: XiiDraco on April 21, 2014, 06:59:53 pm

Lol my win 8 pc for some reason likes to boot in about 1.5 seconds. Why would anyone ever have a problem with a 3 second boot time. The first computer I ever used had a 10 minute boot time.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 07:02:30 pm

Not turning it into a fight, just expressing my opinion. Not forcing it on you either. :P

Also Xii and Pimath if you don't like GrUB as your boot menu just use rEFInd. It's easily customizable and themable. A lot easier than GrUB. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: XiiDraco on April 21, 2014, 07:04:38 pm

Grubby, grub grub grub. Buggsy grubby bug bug. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: pimathbrainiac on April 21, 2014, 07:11:02 pm

No, I don't care about the bootloader. I'm just saying it's a pain to dual boot Win8 (UEFI-only) and Ubuntu (EFI-only). :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on April 21, 2014, 07:12:26 pm

Well I don't use GrUB but EFIstub (aka Linux's built in EFI bootloader). But let's get back on topic.

What kinda cool stuff did you already try with this beast ?

Also Pimath : UEFI and EFI are not that different. Seems like you need to recompile your kernel to get efistub in Ubuntu. :P

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on April 21, 2014, 07:13:11 pm

Trackmania on full graphic settings without any lag at all :P
EDIT: and building AUR stuff is suddenly so fast O.O

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on May 07, 2014, 04:52:02 pm

Found some images on my SD card:
(http://img.ourl.ca/CIMG4040-small.jpg)
(http://img.ourl.ca/CIMG4041-small.jpg)
(http://img.ourl.ca/CIMG4042-small.jpg)

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on May 07, 2014, 05:11:46 pm

That messy wiring. x.x You could make it cleaner, it will improve airflow and help the PC cool better. ;) Like so :
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/84kygngh86e3pkf/IMG_20131002_184413.JPG?dl=1&token_hash=AAGCzhkhwNva9GkPpy9kj49htG20yrtZqtd13Ul4ZncVPw&expiry=1399500529)
All the cables are behind the panel on which the motherboard is attached. Well, it's true I could make the bottom better but it's not a big deal since there's few cables hanging out in there.

Edit Sorunome: resized image

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on May 08, 2014, 02:25:59 am

That calculator :P
Also, i'm not having an issue with temp at all, can't get my hardware above like 50 or something even when gaming ;)

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Tjakka5 on May 08, 2014, 05:42:56 am

What I don't get though is that you guys need so much space for a computer, here's my setup so you know what I mean:

WARNING! 4K pictures!

Spoiler For Spoiler:

The case is a Antec Aria, A microATX case, which is 10.6" x 7.9" x 13.2" (WxHxD).
It normally comes with a PSU that was build for it, but the guy I bought it from blew that thing up.

So instead I took my own PSU and just put it on the spot where normally the CD Drive and the HDD's were going to go.
The HDD's not lay under the card reader where normally a USB hub is attached, that one is my own and was routed to the back.

As far as specs go, it can't compete with your PC's. This was a budget build and it was in total ~120 euros.

CPU: Intel Pentium D, dual core rated @3 ghz. (Socket 775, still very much upgradable)
RAM: 2GB DDR2 memory (I can upgrade this to 4GB If I wanted)
PSU: Some PSU that gives 350watts.
GPU: GeForce 9500GT, overclocked to the maximum stable.
CD Drive: None :3
USB Ports: 4
Sound Card: None
Cooling: By PSU, CPU and a external one which is placed all the way in the back. Its not perfect, but it does the job.
Over time it gets hotter and hotter, but this takes a long time; after about 10 hours of maximum load (Yeah) it was 70 degrees.
If I think it gets to hot I just temporarely take the top off and it cools quickly.

Edit Sorunome: resized images

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on May 08, 2014, 07:22:11 am

Well, you can't fit a nice and big GPU and CPU cooler in a micro ATX case for starters. It also has reduced airflow, the smaller motherboard is a bottleneck for expansion, few HDD bays... All these issues are the same as laptops. I have the space for it so why not ? :P
There are actually taller cases than mid-tower ATX ones (what I have). They fit a larger motherboard for multi GPU (>2) configurations. Unless you use two dual GPU cards, it's actually the only way to build a quad GPU machine.
Also to let my system cool down, I just switch to less intensive tasks and it get below 30°C in seconds.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Hayleia on May 08, 2014, 07:24:38 am

Quote from: Tjakka5 on May 08, 2014, 05:42:56 am

What I don't get though is that you guys need so much space for a computer, here's my setup so you know what I mean:

Quote from: Tjakka5 on May 08, 2014, 05:42:56 am

As far as specs go, it can't compete with your PC's. This was a budget build and it was in total ~120 euros.

Well you said it yourself, we have big PCs for big performance. And if you don't need big performance indeed, you don't need a big PC.
That's why I have two laptops, one that runs AC IV and Project M, and one that barely runs Lubuntu to work wherever I want.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Streetwalrus on May 08, 2014, 07:30:54 am

I don't need to carry my gaming PC either. I don't go to LANs so yeah. :P
Also, if I get a laptop it will probably a used Core2duo or something along these lines. Slap in a RAM and maybe HDD upgrade, install Arch Linux and I'm set.

Actually I think Soru's GPU would fit in a mATX case and there are high end mATX mobos, but it still has the inconvenienced I listed.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Tjakka5 on May 08, 2014, 07:57:37 am

As far as performance goes for me; It runs everything I want and it runs it smoothly.
So thats things like Minecraft or League of Legends, such games play at about 40-100 fps at medium to high settings.
Other than that I just browse with it, play music and program on it, although I prefer programming on my laptop.

And yeah, cooling it can be a real nightmare, especially if your video card came without its own cooler .-.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on September 15, 2014, 06:33:15 am

Sooooo, I wanne add more ram to this thing, but now I wonder if I should add 8 gb or 16gb....i already have 8.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 15, 2014, 12:11:01 pm

8 should be fine IMHO, unless you plan to do some extreme video editing or something. I have 8 GB and barely use half of it.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on September 15, 2014, 12:46:37 pm

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 15, 2014, 12:11:01 pm

8 should be fine IMHO, unless you plan to do some extreme video editing or something. I have 8 GB and barely use half of it.

I already had it where slim bugged out and nommed all my ram including swap O.O

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Eeems on September 15, 2014, 02:25:57 pm

I've currently got 16GB in my desktop and I've filled it up a couple times.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: Sorunome on September 15, 2014, 03:20:32 pm

Quote from: Eeems on September 15, 2014, 02:25:57 pm

I've currently got 16GB in my desktop and I've filled it up a couple times.

Windows? Because I only use linux.

Title: Re: New Computer
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 15, 2014, 06:35:40 pm

In my case the only time it gets past half usage it's when I edit large video or photoshop style image files or when I play Starcraft 2. It also happened in Opera 12.17 when I had a massive amount of tabs open. Otherwise I use about 35-42%.