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General Discussion => Technology and Development => Other => Topic started by: Broseph Radson on September 17, 2010, 09:14:57 am
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We all know how creative Apple is, with the iTouch, iPhone, iPhone Mammoth, and iPad all looking EXACTLY THE SAME. Well, apparently, theres a new iPod Nano. And wouldnt ya know it? Its a like a small fucking iPhone/iTouch! GRAND.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_nano?afid=p219|GOUS&cid=OAS-US-KWG-iPodNano-US (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_nano?afid=p219|GOUS&cid=OAS-US-KWG-iPodNano-US)
^link to the new nano on Apple.
Why, steve? why??!!
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lol, I wonder if this supports 3rd party app development.
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even if it does no one is ganna buy one...
its sooo f-ing expensive!!!
add another 20 dollars or so and you can get an ipod touch... so why buy the stupid ipod nano?
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Exactly (although the fanboys will probably find the extra cash). And the nano is essentially the same thing just with a smaller screen. If it does support apps, though, i would like to see a port of TouchGrind just to see how it plays.
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they fkin downgraded it majorly
old nano:
shoot video
play games
take pictures
easy to look at screen
easy navigation
new nano:
no camera
no games
no navigation (you have to press on the screen or something stupid to get back to the home screen)
super small screen
Smaller isnt always better apple, and you failed at doing it.. I would see this as a shuffle replacement at most if even that, but then again, you couldnt navigate good
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lol, I wonder if this supports 3rd party app development.
nope cuz you cant do crap with what you got now let alone a game
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They'll probably try to fool people into buying it saying it's all new and cool, then people will discover it does less stuff and buy an additional iPhone or the like afterward.
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It really does just look like a new iPod Shuffle instead of a Nano.
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I want an iMat
(http://www.walyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/apple-iboard-imat-design-gadget.jpg)
Dance Dance Revolution on this = WIN (providing it's solid)
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I love that pic!
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haha 2012 iboard
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LOL
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imat ... lol!
The nano just has the ios syle interface on the main screen, after that, it's just black and white menus.
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Really? That's... saddening x.x
Silly Apple.
Love that pic, DJ ;D
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Well, one thing Apple's done right: loyalty and somehow making everyone want what they make, no matter what the actual features.
Sounds just like TI :)
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Its because everything they make is so shiny with cute little animations for everything, but no actual features. It creates some sort of loyalty with the ignorant fanboys. For example, if someone buys an apple router and a windows laptop, and the laptop wont associate with the router properly, they assume that since the apple router is prettier than the laptop, that the laptop has the problem, when in fact its apple's crappy compatibility that causes the problem. They then return the laptop and buy another mac. Tricking ignorant people into wasting extra money is a great way to do business, but it makes you a real asshole of a person. I like Zune better anyway :D
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I remember when the iPod was just a MP3 player. You could usually buy the equivalent from a no-name brand for like $30 when you had to pay $300 for an iPod. Basically, you often pay only for the name.
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Yeah. I have a 1 gig shuffle and its supposed to hold 240 songs, and it costed $80. My brother has an mp3 player that was $20, its 1 gig and holds 500 songs, has a screen, equalizers, voice recording, FM radio, and folder support. Needless to say, i wasted my money.
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The only reason I would by an iPod is so I can use the apps. Otherwise, I'd get a sansa or whatever.
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Yeah. I have a 1 gig shuffle and its supposed to hold 240 songs, and it costed $80. My brother has an mp3 player that was $20, its 1 gig and holds 500 songs, has a screen, equalizers, voice recording, FM radio, and folder support. Needless to say, i wasted my money.
How does a player with the same storage capacity as another holds half less songs than the other, though? Does iPod uses a special compression format that is less efficient, or is it filled with software crap?
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Yeah im assuming its software. I actually filled it with 125 songs though o.o
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Wow. And still, it's by far the most successful MP3 player in the world.
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I loled so hard when I saw this. At first it looked like they could link together side-by-side. That would be pretty cool.
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sigh... no matter how good they might claim to be... they are still just kinda crappy...
though i have to admit that their quality is pretty good...
an ipod lasts for decades!!!
i dont own an ipod though... never wanted to waste that much money...
instead i own a philips gogear...
it quite nice!
looks better and works better than an ipod too, and waaayyyy cheaper...
here is a pic:
(http://i01.twenga.com/audio-video/mp3-player/philips-gogear-ariaz-sa2ara08k-p_586283vb.png)
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This looks nice. I think I just got some weird cheap $20 2 GB mp3 player I forgot the brand of. I got it at Future Shop a while ago. It's slow to browse, though x.x
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This looks nice. I think I just got some weird cheap $20 2 GB mp3 player I forgot the brand of. I got it at Future Shop a while ago. It's slow to browse, though x.x
yeah... before this one i had a cheap brand mp3 player as well... it was a coby if i remember correctly...
i had a kind of wired touch pad that is quite unresponsive... thus it is quite slow to browse too...
perhaps unresponsive is not the right word... i mean it reads your finger and everything... but after a click, there's like a slight delay until you can press any of the buttons again... quite odd i would say...
oh yeah... and something else an ipod can o better than my philips is that it can play games...
but then the fact that it allows you to copy files in like a flash drive makes it even...
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OH RIGHT! Coby. That's waht I got. Also I often accidentally turned it off in the bus when coming back from hockey games x.x. And yeah that delay thing is what I mean.
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Honestly that new "Nano" looks like a glorified Shuffle.
As for the storage thing, I haven't ever heard of MP3 players using compression to hold things ??? They should hold the same amount of data as far as I'm concerned, not necessarily the same amount of songs though.
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I got a regular iPod Mini once, but its battery died in like 2 years :(
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Can it be changed?
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The battery? Probably, though you'd have to order a new battery or something and do it yourself, which you could turn out doing something wrong (though I don't know if you can actually replace the battery). Other than that though you would have to send it in to get repaired, if they even repair that without charging you a lot of money.
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I ended up getting an iTouch instead ^^ Its a lot more fun than the mini :)
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Now I know why it's called a nano: it's approximately one nanonanoparsec square ;D
But seriously, the good side of the iPod (and all of Apple's products) is its hardware. It might even be too good for most purposes, anyway.
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What does their hardware have that other computer doesn't though? DO you mean it breaks slower? Hardware-wise, in many cases, for a computer, you ended up paying $1000 more for a Mac that had roughly the same specs as its PC counterpart
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I meant like the aluminum casings/linings on a lot of their products, where most companies would have just used plastic.
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Ah, right. Doesn't that get extremly hot, though? X.x
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Aluminum is a good material, but it doesnt change the fact that macs have about $500 worth of hardware and a $50 OS and the computer costs $3000. Where does that other $2450 go? (Im talking in US dollars btw)
You can custom build a PC for $1000 with much better specs that will last just as long as a mac, and if you like Mac OS, you can put it on a PC. Its the fact that their hardware is so shiny that gets the sales.
And the new nano has multitouch. The only thing you can really do with the multitouch is rotate the screen by twisting 2 fingers on it. But why? Do you really need to be able to do that? Its an MP3 player. Stuff like a multitouch screen on an iPod that small just wastes memory and uses up storage space, since it isnt really useful for anything.
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Apple loves graphics. Everyone knows that :)
Anyway, I actually used an iPod nano yesterday. It's actually pretty good, basically a really scaled down version of an iPod Touch.
As for the menus, they're not exactly black and white. They're black text on a white background with a gradient blue selection, just like on the iPhone, iPad, iMac, and every Apple product produced since 2007.
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does it have retina display? because if it does, I guess they could get super small games on it. :P
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It's 220 ppi versus 326 on the iPhone 4, so not exactly Retina, but still really, really high-reso (better than the 3GS at 163): http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/specs.html (http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/specs.html). Don't know about gaming. The missing physical nav wheel makes a lot of games unplayable on the new nano, unfortunately.
EDIT: Whoa, the iPhone 4 white's out! Doesn't look as good as the black model, though...
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I bet ppl will be amazed by the white iPhone 4 and buy one even though they already have a black one x.x
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Aluminum is a good material, but it doesnt change the fact that macs have about $500 worth of hardware and a $50 OS and the computer costs $3000. Where does that other $2450 go? (Im talking in US dollars btw)
You can custom build a PC for $1000 with much better specs that will last just as long as a mac, and if you like Mac OS, you can put it on a PC. Its the fact that their hardware is so shiny that gets the sales.
And the new nano has multitouch. The only thing you can really do with the multitouch is rotate the screen by twisting 2 fingers on it. But why? Do you really need to be able to do that? Its an MP3 player. Stuff like a multitouch screen on an iPod that small just wastes memory and uses up storage space, since it isnt really useful for anything.
If you custom build, it will be cheaper than even major PC manufacturers, for the same hardware.
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Aluminum is a good material, but it doesnt change the fact that macs have about $500 worth of hardware and a $50 OS and the computer costs $3000. Where does that other $2450 go? (Im talking in US dollars btw)
You can custom build a PC for $1000 with much better specs that will last just as long as a mac, and if you like Mac OS, you can put it on a PC. Its the fact that their hardware is so shiny that gets the sales.
And the new nano has multitouch. The only thing you can really do with the multitouch is rotate the screen by twisting 2 fingers on it. But why? Do you really need to be able to do that? Its an MP3 player. Stuff like a multitouch screen on an iPod that small just wastes memory and uses up storage space, since it isnt really useful for anything.
If you custom build, it will be cheaper than even major PC manufacturers, for the same hardware.
yeah...
my custom build Core i7 desktop was only about 1300 dollars..
oh... with a 60gb Solid State Hard drive of course :P
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Aluminum is a good material, but it doesnt change the fact that macs have about $500 worth of hardware and a $50 OS and the computer costs $3000. Where does that other $2450 go? (Im talking in US dollars btw)
You can custom build a PC for $1000 with much better specs that will last just as long as a mac, and if you like Mac OS, you can put it on a PC. Its the fact that their hardware is so shiny that gets the sales.
And the new nano has multitouch. The only thing you can really do with the multitouch is rotate the screen by twisting 2 fingers on it. But why? Do you really need to be able to do that? Its an MP3 player. Stuff like a multitouch screen on an iPod that small just wastes memory and uses up storage space, since it isnt really useful for anything.
If you custom build, it will be cheaper than even major PC manufacturers, for the same hardware.
It depends where you live, though. Where I live in Canada, the last time I calculated for parts, I ended up with the double of the original price I would have paid for a pre-built computer
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I have a magazine article that shows you how to build a computer for $72. (It's a few years old, but still...)
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What are the specs? O.O
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Wow $72 ???
I have some old computer parts lying around but it would still cost more than that to build a working PC with what i have. I cant imagine being able to buy enough new or even used parts for $72 though lol
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Over here with used parts I am certain I wouldn't be able to get anything under $300. I might as well buy a small discontinued computer at Future Shop or even a notebook :P
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Here's the article. The specs aren't too good, even for back then. It doesn't have a hard disk, instead it uses a flashdrive for all storage.
http://www.popsci.com/node/2805 (http://www.popsci.com/node/2805)
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Wow, nevermind then x.x
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Wow, still pretty good for $72, though. As long as it has games ;)
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Wow, still pretty good for $72, though. As long as it has games ;)
I think there was actually a suggestion in the article to turn it into a gaming computer.
/me wonders what kind of specs you could get for a computer for the cost of a TI84+SE
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Wow, still pretty good for $72, though. As long as it has games ;)
I think there was actually a suggestion in the article to turn it into a gaming computer.
Exactly, it has the Linux-packaged games.
/me wonders what kind of specs you could get for a computer for the cost of a TI84+SE
Lol, pretty good compared to the calc's functionality, if you ask me :P
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I bet we could get something that can run games like WoW or UT2K4 at medium settings :P
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Isn't DSL pretty devoid of a lot of modern features, though?
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That $72 PC costed $72 a few years ago. Now most of the parts cost double that. I could build a much better pc than that with just $130, especially if I'm allowed to use spare parts. Plus, it would have enough RAM to run Gnome or at least XFCE :P
and it would have a hard drive. and a case.
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That $72 PC costed $72 a few years ago. Now most of the parts cost double that. I could build a much better pc than that with just $130, especially if I'm allowed to use spare parts.
Better than a calc? ;)
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Lol nice. Personally, I am fairly sure it could be better than a Nspire.