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Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on June 30, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
Hokee dokee, this weekend I shall place my order with newegg. I decided it's my turn to have my own topic so I can quit mooching off other peoples'. ;)wink.gif
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Looks good? Any last changes anyone would suggest? Shipping is expensive, but I looked, all the parts are cheaper on newegg than at fry's or best buy (the two large computer parts stores around me) and if I still save over $100 even with the shipping! o.oblink.gif

EDIT: I also thought that maybe instead of a zalman fan I'd try the stock HSF first and see how that works and get a good speaker set instead.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Speler on June 30, 2007, 03:05:00 pm
Looks nice, I'm considering building a cheap PC myself.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on June 30, 2007, 06:46:00 pm
Hokay, I sent my order to newegg! o.oblink.gif I decided to get speakers instead of the fan. I'll use the mail-in rebates to get a fan later if the stock HSF doesn't cut it.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on July 01, 2007, 07:25:00 am
Why didn't you a get a quad-core processor? :Ptongue.gif

Anyways, nice rig! Too bad it's a desktop...(laptops are much better IMO)
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: rivereye on July 01, 2007, 07:49:00 am
I just ordered my laptop and am now waiting for it.

Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2ghz
2GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 7900 Go w/256mb memory
160GB HDD
8x Super-Multi Drive
17" widescreen
802.11 a/b/g/Pre-N
Bluetooth
Vista Ultimate 32 bit

can't think of much else in it, but it will rock.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 01, 2007, 06:11:00 pm
Nice. Too large for my tastes, but powerful. Some of my friends went for the uber-powerful gigantic laptops. Be prepared for heavyness, too-hot-for-lapness, and limited battery life though. :(sad.gif I myself prefer a slightly more mobile computer, but those are great if it's going to be a mostly stationary computer.

One thing though - Why 32-bit vista? o.oblink.gif;; Core 2 Duo is a 64-bit cpu you know... Unless your computer is just a Core Duo and not a Core 2 Duo.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: rivereye on July 02, 2007, 03:32:00 am
because they didn't offer 64 bit, that, and there are issues with 64bit operating systems.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 02, 2007, 08:16:00 am
Hokay, well for my rig I'm gonna dual-boot sabayon x64 and vista business x86. I would use vista x64 if I could, but I get the 32-bit version for free from my university's MSDNAA thingy. Like hell I'm gonna pay for it! B)cool.gif I thought both versions of vista would have the same compatibility problems but I dunno. :oohmy.gif Mebbe I'm glad I only have the x86 version?
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: dinhotheone on July 02, 2007, 08:26:00 am
dame lotsaa people building comps this summer, heres mine:

XFX MB-N68-ILT9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard 189.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Conroe 2.13GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor 186.00

eVGA 256-P2-N554-AX Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card 115.99

MSI TurboStream 600W ATX 12V V2.2/ EPS 12V/ BTX 600W Power Supply $79.99

Kingston ValueRAM 1GB 24-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Desktop Memory (*2)    94.98

ZEROtherm BTF90 92mm Silent UFO CPU Cooler $39.99

so about 707 dollars plus 50ish for shipping is $760ish. but what case would you guys suggest to fit all this stuff? i have no clue what would or wouldnt work for a case. spengo, you can get any OS for free if you know how. like my current xp pro. also i see you're playing stalker, a sick game if i say so myself.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 02, 2007, 08:45:00 am
not bad. Didn't want to get an 8600GTS instead of the older 7600GT? $150 after the rebate on newegg. And the 8600GT is only $99 after rebate! Cheaper AND more powerful. http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=385&card2=512 You sure you don't want DDR2 800MHz? And though ValueRAM is cheap, but it will suck for overclocking. The corsair xms2 set I got is only $113 and is much better ram. Also, I prefer to have legal copies of OSses though I'm a big pirate for everything else. ;)wink.gif

Stalker, for example, I found on demonoid. (shh!) Quite good actually! Big open-ended, non-linear, and somewhat realistic FPS. For a case, mostly just get one you think looks good so you don't hate it. Removeable mobo trays are a nice touch and 120mm fans is another thing to look for - big, quiet, and move a lot of air. If you're building a gaming PC make sure it has room for at least 2-3 fans. (doesn't have to come with 'em, just make sure it has the empty slots at least)

The smilodon case I got is pretty good, cheap (only $80), and has lots of fans and very easy to work in. It has a removeable mobo tray and just about everything flips out so you can work in it. My one complaint is lack of 120mm fan support. :(sad.gif It's got one 120mm on the front and 3*80mm fans. (and an additional optional 80mm fan slot) If the stock fans are suck and loud I figure I can always get better fans for it though. Antec tri-cool 80mm's are like $6 each or something - those are nice and quiet.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on July 02, 2007, 10:08:00 am
Don't let http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117092R die! I know he costs a fortune, but still... %)rolleyes2.gif

Hmmm, I think it's time for me to get a new laptop...what's the best laptop for a moderate amount of gaming and a pretty low budget?
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Netham45 on July 02, 2007, 10:30:00 am
Yea, Im building a new computer now too. Im going to get an 8800 in it too. :drool: :Dbiggrin.gif

I also am going to try to get it into an HTPC case too.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: dinhotheone on July 02, 2007, 11:14:00 am
i dont see this nasty deal on the 8600, can you send me a link. all i found was this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=eVGA+8600+GTS&x=0&y=0
and neither are 99$. perhaps the deal is gone, the 7600 is going for 95 with rebate not 150 though. i looked at the corsair but the ratings weren't great, only 64% 5. or was i looking at the wrong thing (91 after rebate) i guess ill get it anyway as it IS cheaper and i trust you more than the ratings.

and ya, the whole pirating thing and me commenting on stalker are connected. actually that and the new computer thing is connected as this crap heap wont run medieval 2. i had to use my moms comp for stalker but was kicked off for taking up like the 15 GB of mem it takes. as for my OS being illegal, microsoft "says its legit" so im not worried. lol vista was like 3 days out and they already were cracked.

@netham is this #2 or #3? lol i wish i was that rich

edit: nvm found it
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 02, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
No no, that's the 8600GTS. the 8600GT is the one that's only $99 and that would be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085. And the 8800GTS is a lot cheaper now that they have a 320MB version. Goes for $280 these days. The GTX is still over $500 though. :(sad.gif

Also @ ratings on corsair ram: a 3-egg performance ram > a 5-egg value ram. :Ptongue.gif You notice the people that bought value ram were mostly happy that it plugs in and works. People that get performance ram want it to OC and be uber. Also, a lot of the lower ratings were from people whose mobos don't support 4 sticks of ram w/out a 64-bit OS yet. The 680i is one of them, sadly, but if ya get one from a reliable company like evga or something, bios updates will keep comin' and problems such as that should be fixed.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: dinhotheone on July 02, 2007, 01:40:00 pm
yeah i said i found it. i realized that i was in the wrong thing when i saw you writing GT and i writing GTS. also im only getting 2gb so thats fine.
also a bit offtopic i hope you get a better ending in stalker than i did, since i always stole people's stuff, my ending involved getting rich and dieing, it was a terrible ending but i guess you can get a ton of em.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on July 02, 2007, 03:50:00 pm
Just to ask, what are the main differences between the GT, GTS, and  GTX versions of the graphics card (other than price)?

Sigh, too bad I can't get anything from Newegg cheap. I live in California, y'know...and so does Newegg...stupid sales tax... :(sad.gif
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 02, 2007, 04:43:00 pm
the order of L33Tness goes from best to worst GTX, GTS, GT, GS. (as far as nvidia cards go anyways) It's still cheap even with sales tax. :Ptongue.gif Cheaper than getting it from the other stores with sales tax so... what the heck are you talking about again? Also, I would prefer to live in a place with sales tax. It's great to have no tax when you're a kid, but as soon as you start having income tax... Holy fscking christ! Stupid Oregon... Apparently, newegg is also in TN, not just CA.

Offtopic, but I think sales tax or some kind of consumption tax should be the ONLY tax. :Ptongue.gif That way you are taxed on how much you consume, not how much money you make, etc. Tax people on how much they take from society, not on how much they give!

EDIT: oh, it's not just adding to the price, there is a huge performance increase between the levels. Go to gpureview.com and play with the compare cards section for awhile if you're interested.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Ranman on July 04, 2007, 10:39:00 am
Fry's Electronics has the Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 for $299. O_Oshocked2.gif

http://www.frys.com/
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 04, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
Nice, too bad I don't have $300 for a processor... :Ptongue.gif Besides, if I ever did a cpu upgrade after c2d, it would be one o' them 45nm cpus intel is promising soon. O_Oshocked2.gif
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: dinhotheone on July 06, 2007, 03:23:00 pm
what do you guys think of me using the onboard sound card of the  XFX MB-N68-ILT9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard? should i get a real one or go with this as sound isnt really too important to me?
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: rivereye on July 06, 2007, 03:47:00 pm
well, I would say, get started with that, and see if you like it. I am fine with the on board audio on my machines. Also, being that the quality is too important, save some money.

Also, my laptop is here, and I am posting from it right now.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 07, 2007, 02:46:00 pm
onboard audio on the nforce 680i boards seems to be pretty good. It sounds fine with my cheap-ish $40 2.1 speakers at any rate. It *does* support 7.1, but if you want an uber surround sound system, you're better off getting a sb audigy or something.

EDIT: oh, one thing that made me sad, you know how they fixed no HDR and AA at the same time with nvidia cards on the g80 series? Well, apparently it's only fixed for 64-bit windows xp. Not vista. :/confused.gif So... I guess ATI still has that advantage, meh.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: Liazon on July 08, 2007, 06:51:00 am
so was stock cooling enough?
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: dinhotheone on July 12, 2007, 04:43:00 pm
..this is rediculous, i got everything installed after like 4 hours of work, except for the harddrives. i cant figure out how they're supposed to go in at all. spengo, you wouldnt be able to give me any pointers about how to go about that would you? im going to check thier website, but i dont expect to find much, thier friggen instructions were terrible. or is the problem that the old hdd's dont work with this newer case? any help would be appreciated as i am totally POed at the hdd support on this case.
Title: Spengo's new 1337 rig
Post by: spengo on July 13, 2007, 11:15:00 am
liazon: unfortunately not. I have a 600MHz overclock (at 2.7GHz) and it almost reaches 60 under load. I'd really like to see the temps stay under 50. I'm saving up in hopes of going liquid though, then I can REALLY cook things. =D

dinho: Uh, all hdd's should work with any case, they don't have different sizes. (except the laptop ones) Generally tool-less hdd bays work with metal rails - they have a little poinked in things that you stick in the screw holes of the hdd and then you just.. slide it in the cage. My case took me about 2-30 minutes or so. I really <3 this case - flip down sides make for the easiest mobo install I've ever done. The lower hdd cage turns and moves out so you can get to the hdd's really easily. My case's instructions were about as lengthy as a hotel brochure so they were utterly useless as well, but luckily I was able to figure out everything by myself - it was pretty straighforward. FRIGGIN' HUGE so lots of room inside too, fits my 8800GTS with room to spare and I read reviews that said the even huger GTX fits okay. My only real complaints with this case is there is no way to control the fans, they just run at max speed all the time (loud! will have to get a fan controller) and that it's farking heavy. Really good build quality and the hugeness make for heavy cases I suppose.

I took pics! They are still on the camera though. :(sad.gif