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General Discussion => Technology and Development => Other => Topic started by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 09:37:33 am

Title: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 09:37:33 am
http://www.slashgear.com/texas-instruments-blaze-tablet-available-this-august-2491480/
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: TsukasaZX on September 10, 2010, 10:49:00 am
Cool. What's the catch? :P
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 10:53:17 am
Missing RAM pages

Blocking third party dev...

etc
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: willrandship on September 10, 2010, 11:25:09 am
Hey, TI makes more than calcs. I doubt they'll be so restrictive on their tablets since they're not educational focused. Probably a completely different branch of the company.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 11:51:12 am
:P
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: yunhua98 on September 10, 2010, 12:41:19 pm
when I saw it wasn't a RickRoll, I half-expected the screen to be at most 16 level greyscale.  :P

EDIT: now to see how many of the "If TI made a PC OS" signs are true ;)
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Netham45 on September 10, 2010, 01:58:43 pm
I kinda want one of these. This looks really nifty.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 10, 2010, 05:10:55 pm
Nifty, but they won't run 3rd party languages and softwares, rigth? ;D
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 07:30:40 pm
And they will have crappy LCD displays :D
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 10, 2010, 07:35:16 pm
Whoa, there's color :o
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Snake X on September 10, 2010, 07:51:15 pm
what's the resolution? same as nspire? :p
AWMG it can connect to the internet too?! WOW that's pretty fancy stuffs for ti there
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: FinaleTI on September 10, 2010, 07:51:55 pm
Don't forget later versions will mysteriously have less RAM...
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Snake X on September 10, 2010, 07:53:29 pm
oh yeah, also lets not forget this is the first os, so TI will surely do a quick update and lock it.. then they take away the wifi cuz that's not what the teachers want :p

edit:
Quote from: http://www.slashgear.com/texas-instruments-blaze-tablet-available-this-august-2491480/
One (1) “lock” switch
I wonder what that does  ;)

edit 2: ohh get this:
Quote from: http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1478
Yes, you read that right. Texas Instruments (TI) is charging $2,259 (plus shipping and handling) for the OMAP Blaze, a tablet now pre-orderable from the Web site of its manufacturing partner SVTronics.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 10, 2010, 08:21:55 pm
Quote from: http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1478
$2,259
...

WHAT?
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: yunhua98 on September 10, 2010, 08:22:56 pm
that makes the iPad look like a TI calc being sold at a dollar store!

EDIT: well, there's the catch...  :(
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Snake X on September 10, 2010, 08:27:52 pm
it says its not even targeted to customers but to developers =o
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 10, 2010, 08:37:54 pm
That makes me wonder how much they will charge for the TI-Nspire SDK if it really comes outs and exists at all (I saw some talk about a possible one in March on TI-BANK forums a while ago)
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 10, 2010, 08:46:21 pm
it says its not even targeted to customers but to developers =o

Seriously? Wow O.o
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 10, 2010, 09:43:28 pm
it says its not even targeted to customers but to developers =o

that would be a first :P
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Jonius7 on September 11, 2010, 12:33:56 am
haha, as if this will sell properly, if it is actually hoping to compete with dell, sony, acer etc. well good luck!!!! hehe

i don't think i said the right thing as it is meant to be sold to developers. actually i dunno what to say...
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 11, 2010, 07:35:48 pm
haha, as if this will sell properly, if it is actually hoping to compete with dell, sony, acer etc. well good luck!!!! hehe

On the other hand, despite TI calculators' crappiness, they still outsell Casio, HP, et al. by far :-\
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 11, 2010, 09:09:33 pm
yeah, but some casio calcs were good
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2010, 11:41:49 pm
True. The old ones were friggin slow, though. I also wish the color one had ASM support and that the newer ones had a better BASIC interpreter (right now it's considerably slower than TI-BASIC, considering the hardware it runs on)
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 12, 2010, 08:36:15 am
1. did we ever get asm on a casio calc?
2. if we did, then how?
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 12, 2010, 12:18:30 pm
The newer Casio calcs got ASM support, but only in add-on's form (kinda like Flash apps, no Asm(prgmNAME) or the like, so no BASIC extension like Celtic III, although there's a CPU speed changer for the 9860G.

Classpad 300 originally didn't support 3rd party dev, like the Nspire, but 2 years later, Casio answered requests from the community by releasing a SDK. I think only C is available, not ASM, though, but I could be wrong.

Basically the Casio calcs supporting ASM/C are the Algebra FX, Graph 85/Casio FX-9860G and Classpad series. One person managed to run third-party ASM code on the Color FX calcs, but to do so, he had to do hardware changes on the ROM chip.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 12, 2010, 12:29:12 pm
cool, so that means that Casio isnt going the wai TI is :P
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 12, 2010, 12:54:38 pm
Yeah, unless that changed. At least, we can give some props to Casio for listening to customers about Classpad 3rd party dev (although they did not, for fixing bugs in the Classpad OSes, if I remember :P) and for creating the world's first graphing calc, the FX-7000G, in 1985, 5 years before the TI-81 came out. :P

Their BASIC interpreter is still worse than TI, though.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 13, 2010, 07:55:50 pm
I wonder if Casio calcs have as large a dev community as TI...
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: TC01 on September 13, 2010, 08:00:37 pm
I don't own any non-TI graphing calcs myself- my dad has an HP-48 (SX, I think), though. Which does have assembly support.

I wonder if Casio calcs have as large a dev community as TI...

Well, there's casiocalc.org (http://www.casiocalc.org/), which (unlike ticalc.org) is both a forum and a file archive. (And likewise, there's hpcalc.org (http://www.hpcalc.org/) for HP calcs, although it's not a forum). You could look around there.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 13, 2010, 08:23:27 pm
Casiocalc is kinda like what United-TI was until 2009. UTI used to have similar archives, but then they were taken down due to a forum upgrade.

There are also some french Casio forums. However the Casio community, with the exception of 2008, was never as active as the TI community. The HP community is pretty much dead. There's a Google group somewhere but no web forum.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: fb39ca4 on September 13, 2010, 09:34:34 pm
I've got a HP-28S, circa 1980s. It was the world's second graphing calc, though the screen wasn't the best dimensions. (128x32)
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 13, 2010, 11:37:48 pm
Yeah the first graphing calculator ever was the Casio FX-7000G in 1985. I got one as well as two other old Casio calcs (from the mid 90s), plus most old TI graphing models. I have far less graphing calcs than BrandonW, though.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 14, 2010, 11:49:19 am
Quote from: fb39ca4
I've got a HP-28S, circa 1980s. It was the world's second graphing calc, though the screen wasn't the best dimensions. (128x32)

Wow, 32 pixels high? I assume they're really tall pixels, but even for that ... the TI-80 looks good in comparison.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: calcdude84se on September 14, 2010, 06:59:01 pm
(http://www.hpmuseum.org/img/28ss.jpg)
A picture. And no, pixels are squares ;D
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 14, 2010, 07:57:03 pm
Wow. That's more confusing than an 85 with an Nspire keypad... :)
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: fb39ca4 on September 14, 2010, 08:32:26 pm
Yeah, same one I got. It even has a speaker and IR port.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 14, 2010, 08:38:28 pm
O_O

wow, Thats must be hard to use
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: fb39ca4 on September 14, 2010, 08:56:42 pm
The number of keys looks daunting, but you rarely use the keys on the left hand side.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 14, 2010, 08:57:49 pm
Does it support programming?
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 14, 2010, 11:20:06 pm
Wow, I haven't seen that kind of calc before. I mean, a calc split in two parts
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 pm
Does it support programming?

+++++++
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 15, 2010, 03:15:10 pm
Does it support programming?

+++++++
wat?
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: qazz42 on September 15, 2010, 03:45:36 pm
err, I meant to say "Deep Thought++"
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: TC01 on September 15, 2010, 05:49:02 pm
Yes, it does. You can get some programs for it on hpcalc.org... however, there is apparently no computer link software, so you have to manually enter programs like you would on a TI-80 or a TI-81.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 16, 2010, 04:16:33 am
I thought there were? Maybe they were on the HP site back then?

EDIT: Oh wait you probably mean the calc discussed in earlier posts. Because on the 48 there are even ASM games.
Title: Re: TI Tablet PC
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 16, 2010, 06:58:32 pm
Wow, I haven't seen that kind of calc before. I mean, a calc split in two parts

I have. It didn't graph :P (not a graphing calc).