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How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« on: April 24, 2010, 12:34:04 am »
Hi, guys,

So I understand that many people wanting to learn ASM have a hard time doing so.  I'm willing to attempt to teach the language in an easier way, with the idea being the lessons taking a long time (much longer than 28 days), but easy to work through.  But I need a lot of people wanting to learn it, or it's not worth my time.  Please consider that I won't be able to teach everything on ASM, as I've only begun using it myself, but at least it will be enough so that you can start using "Learn ASM in 28 days" or a similar language.

Let me know if you guys want to learn, and just remember, you're learning from someone who took three years before he could understand the language, so I will make sure that it's easy for the average ti-basic programmer to understand.
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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 12:41:58 am »
I personally am unsure really, because the learning process seemed long and I heard that coding RPGs in ASM (my favorite game genre) is a major hassle. You would have to ask Iambian how it is. However, I think ASM needs to be taught in an easier way than ASM in 28 days, which assumes the user has knowledge of another language besides BASIC and is taught without visual people/people with lower learning capacity in mind

Would it be in document form?

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 12:54:50 am »
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Would it be in document form?

Yes, it'd be one document for every lesson. 

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I personally am unsure really, because the learning process seemed long and I heard that coding RPGs in ASM (my favorite game genre) is a major hassle. You would have to ask Iambian how it is. However, I think ASM needs to be taught in an easier way than ASM in 28 days, which assumes the user has knowledge of another language besides BASIC and is taught without visual people/people with lower learning capacity in mind

My approach would be visuals, numerous examples, and perhaps labs.  The thing that is almost guranteed to make the language easy is, it will take about 50 lessons to teach 1/3 of asm 28 days, covering only the important stuff (since people can download routines and stuff).  Since I am not an expert on calculator hardware and still can do asm, I'm not going to teach much on hardware myself.
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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 12:59:04 am »
aaaah ok I see

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 01:48:52 am »
Hmm, this could be helpful. I'm sure it would be great for a better ASM tutorial because I know asm in 28 days Is hard for some people.
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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 01:53:21 am »
I most likely would not learn Asm simply because there is still so much that i feel i can do in the languages that I know.  Once i exhaust my creativity then i might transfer over to Asm :P

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 01:54:24 am »
I didn't vote because I know the language, but this seems like a good idea.
Funnily enough sigma goes really slowly during the first 5-6 days, but then you basically have to do everything twice.

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2010, 02:19:19 am »
I want to learn it^^ So far, I'm upto day 10 in learn asm in 28 days, but I still don't know what the heck is going on. I kind of get the stacks and stuff, but I don't get the pointer and the whole ad and bc and hl etc. stuff... They are pretty hard, mostly because it lacks examples and visuals, and try-this-on-your-own things


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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2010, 02:24:38 am »
So far, things are looking positive.  I'm going to give great consideration if at least 5 people want to learn, very likely if 7, and I'd be a fool if I didn't teach at least 10 people who want to learn
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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2010, 02:59:52 am »
It would be very nice to have this.

Do you think the tutorial would be available both in offline and online form, like how was ASM in 28 days before?
* DJ Omnimaga hopes this wont half S.A.D progress completly, though :(

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2010, 03:06:08 am »
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Do you think the tutorial would be available both in offline and online form, like how was ASM in 28 days before?


It's going to be downloadable PDF files.


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* DJ Omnimaga hopes this wont half S.A.D progress completly, though

Heaven forbid
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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2010, 03:06:50 am »
ok phew x.x

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2010, 03:41:52 am »
I've attempted to tackle programming a few times, (not ASM) but I could never wrap my head around the logic of it. It's like staring at random characters and numbers, with no discernible pattern as to how they're being arranged.

I just don't think my brain is equipped for this type of logic. Maybe it's true that people who are inclined toward certain skills or reasoning will be less inclined toward others. For instance: I'm good with grammar and creative writing, but I'm absolutely terrible at math. I can force myself to learn how some particular task is done, but then I could literally forget how it was done just a few minutes later. When it comes to writing, I very easily understand the patterns because they're based in words.

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2010, 03:53:07 am »
i remember hearing about people being good at math but not good at language, or vice versa before. Some artistic people are also less good at programming, because they are more into designing than coding.

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Re: How Many People would want to learn ASM if they could?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2010, 03:57:01 am »
I think they depend on the development of your brain. I heard from somewhere that one half of the brain was for language and the other for math and stuff. I myself am good at Math and Science, but not much at language...


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*