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General Discussion => Other Discussions => Humour and Jokes => Topic started by: thepenguin77 on March 31, 2011, 07:02:29 pm
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Have you guys heard the news? TI just released OS 2.71. Here (http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Download/en/6014/6288/TI84Plus_OS.8Xu)'s the link. Go get it.
I'm pretty busy so I don't have much time to test it out tonight, but if I find anything cool, I'll definitely tell you guys.
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Hmm people on IRC says it still says 2.55MP on TI website. ??? I'll try it on my calc after posting about Benumbered 2.0 because sometimes TI woN't update their page automatically.
When did you download it?
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Have you guys heard the news? TI just released OS 2.71. Here (http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Download/en/6014/6288/TI84Plus_OS.8Xu)'s the link. Go get it.
I'm pretty busy so I don't have much time to test it out tonight, but if I find anything cool, I'll definitely tell you guys.
That's 2.55MP...
April fool ? :P
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Hmm... OS e .....
It's still 2.55 MP XP
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Hmm strange. People say they loaded it on WabbitEmu and it still says 2.55MP and is the same lenght.
That said, I don't really trust WabbitEmu sometimes, so I'm installing on my 84+ right now. Also it could be possible that TI released a new OS but forgot to update the page about the OS, because they did it with 83P 1.19.
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or thepenguin posted an April fools joke :P
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Nope, I managed to grab a copy. I still refuse to install 2.* MP OSes on my calculator, though, so don't expect much from me.
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Weird, it's 2.55 for me too. Did TI remove it from their website or something?
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I downloaded to get 2.55 as well.
Did TI remove it from their website or something?
If they did, it would have to be at around 7 or so, forum default time, and then removed by 7:09. :-\
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He sent you a copy? Are you sure it's really 2.71? Anyway I PM'ed him so he can send me a copy, assuming it's real and that he kept an off-calc one.
I think TI posted a new OS online then it got removed. Maybe they only plan to release it when the CX comes out and an employee uploaded it earlier by mistake? To me, it would be possible that with the CX, that they bridge the gap between the 84+ and the Nspire with a new 84+ update, because they did the same thing when Nspire OS 2.0 came out, by releasing 2.54 MP.
I wonder if the 84+ could theoretically ever get stuff like 3D graphing or full TI-89-like pretty-print interface style?
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It looks like they did. I wrote a simple website tracker a long time ago, and set it up to watch for new OSes (among other things) and it said that the download was changed twice, then gave me 2.71 and 2.55.
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if u got a copy, can I haz one? ;D
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Unfortunately, I can't get on the computer for the rest of the night :/ you could probably ask thepenguin, though.
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u can give it to me tomorrow :D
I can wait.
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Oh right. However let's not post copyrighted material on the forums. I think this stuff should be done via e-mail. Don't send flood of e-mails to beg for a copy, though, because then you most likely gonna all get ignored, lol.
Anyway Thepenguin seems away now, as he isn't responding to my PM.
Also, I installed the OS on my 84+ and it's effectively 2.55 MP that is available for download right now.
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It looks like they did. I wrote a simple website tracker a long time ago, and set it up to watch for new OSes (among other things) and it said that the download was changed twice, then gave me 2.71 and 2.55.
lcan you tell me how you did that? Because if you can watch a site for changes, you might still be able to use zds.
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Hm, seems it's a typo on the website, I doubt they changed the .8Xu file.
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Btw Sir how often does it checks? Because if it checks like every 3 minutes, TI could eventually ban your IP for bandwidth abuse or something. X.x
Also has anyone noticed some downtimes lately? Often when I tried to access the 84+ page I got a Proxy Error message. Before last week maintenance I would get a blank page everytime.
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Unfortunately, I can't get on the computer for the rest of the night :/ you could probably ask thepenguin, though.
You're not posting from a "computer" currently?...
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graphmastur, I'd prefer not to discuss such things in a public medium :P
Juju, it looks at file contents, not names. I didn't get a chance to check it out, but it was somehow different.
DJ_O, every ten minutes.
I've got to go kick some ass at a Magic tourney, so I'll check up on this topic later.
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Wut??? It's still only March 31st, unless you live in Asia.
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Wut??? It's still only March 31st, unless you live in Asia.
What I was thinking at first. :P
I'm waiting for a proof.
Because something so important as a 2.71 OS (there's a big skip from 2.55) should have been shared/newsed/tested/screenshot immediatly!
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Or in Europe.
Sir: So it downloaded a copy of the file to check the contents?
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Yeah, the number's an even bigger jump than from 2.43 to 2.53...
/me hopes it isn't downgrade prevention or something :P
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Yeah this is why I asked for a copy, since I wanted to test it.
Also Sir you should maybe decrease it to 30 minutes or something, so it looks less suspicious on TI side. We have to keep in mind this is a large file hosted on a crappy server/connection.
I'm really concerned at the large number jump and the missing "MP" (unless Thepenguin made a typo and omitted the MP?) too...
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Lolwut? 2.71?
I wants ;D
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Lolwut? 2.71?
I wants ;D
Me too.
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Lolwut? 2.71?
I wants ;D
Me too.
I hope it's not just an April fool's joke, though. I wonder what they could add to make that big of a version jump.
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Lolwut? 2.71?
I wants ;D
Me too.
Me three.
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Lolwut? 2.71?
I wants ;D
Me too.
Me three.
Me for.
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Unfortunately, I can't get on the computer for the rest of the night :/ you could probably ask thepenguin, though.
You're not posting from a "computer" currently?...
See the icon next to his post's title. He's using his phone :)
And /me wants a copy too (even though I don't actually have a TI-84 Plus ;D).
And really, is there 3D graphing built in? But then I wonder what else TI did with it this time. The first MPs were bad enough.
/me
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I wonder what this means....
And anyways, I want.
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Remember that TI's z80 engineer(s) is(are) currenty supposed to work on the 2.56MP OS, the port of the 2.55MP 84+ OS for the Nspire 84+SE emulator. It will be included in the Nspire 3.0 OS from next week.
I don't think there are enough z80 engineers left by TI to work on the 2.55MP -> 2.56MP porting and on new 84+ OSes at the same time (with such a high version number moreover).
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So maybe it was the one uncorrupted developer who did it in his/her spare time, and then had to pull it down because 2.56MP isn't done yet? Maybe they have to wait to put it up until after 2.56MP? Who knows? Maybe someone tried to check it in for review and accidentally uploaded it to the site instead.
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Hmm... I created an ips patch of thepenguin's os from my own copy of MP 2.55. There wasn't any difference. ???
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hmm, this whole thing is a little weird...
regardless of what happens, though, i'm sticking with 2.43. there's just too high a risk of incompatibilities and bugs etc
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Check the graphing speed on new os.
Oh, my email address is [email protected] if you can confirm it in any way. Or if you can defiantly say it's not...
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I know that TI did that weird thing where they would publish a page and take it down later. There is a possibility that they did that stunt again.
Edit: If you want to see if the new OS is currently hosted on TI's website (It was not at the time I posted this.) :
http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Search/Results?cp=2&ac=1
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hmm... I bet someone hacked onto TI and uploaded it as april fools :P
I can be so paranoid sometimes, but that's what it seems like
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I suppose it could be like OS 0.41- a beta OS that was not supposed to be actually posted and then quickly taken down.
Somehow I doubt TI would do that again though.
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I know that TI did that weird thing with the CX where they would publish a page and take it down a few minutes later. There is a possibility that they did that stunt again.
Edit: If you want to see if the new OS is currently hosted on TI's website (It was not at the time I posted this.) :
http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Search/Results?cp=2&ac=1
Nah it was the TI-84 Pocket.Fr and the page remained up for a few days. TI-BANK announced it then when I checked the next day the 84 Pocket link was gone from TI site. Same when they announced that the 84+SE was getting discontinued.
I think I'll e-mail ThePenguin77 and Sir in case they don't check their PM. If the OS is real I'll post a news about it. I would prefer to make sure it exists first, though, because in the past someone on another english news site complained that Omni only post rumors that ends up being false and almost no facts.
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I'll test this out and get back to you guys. Best case scenario, it's awesome. Worst case scenario, Graviter gets seriously delayed :P
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Actually, the true worst case is that your calc would be bricked :)
I doubt that would happen, though.
Did somebody post a download link to the 8xu?
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That's what i meant by seriously delayed :P Updating right now (Moment of truth)
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Good point. I guess you could always buy a new calc, if things go wrong.
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you got the 2.71?
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Eh I don't think my parents would be too happy with that xD
Isn't it the one from the first post?
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That's the problem -- it seems to be OS 2.55MP ???
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Oh really? No harm done then, I guess. In the About section, does it say 2.71?
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Actually, the true worst case is that your calc would be bricked :)
I doubt that would happen, though.
Did somebody post a download link to the 8xu?
Not yet, I (and maybe others?) am trying to get a hold of SirCmpwn/ThePenguin77 so I can get a copy to test. Afterward I'll need to figure out a way to share the 8xu file without getting in trouble with TI and in a way to avoid getting spammed with requests.Eh I don't think my parents would be too happy with that xD
Isn't it the one from the first post?
Well if the calc warranty is still valid, I wonder if you could actually get a new one in exchange if you bricked it by installing an official TI OS update?
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I compared them through IPS. There was absolutely no difference. ???/me wants the new OS.
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It's funny when everybody demands the new OS and then says it's utter crap when they finish installing it :P
Ahh yes it's just 2.55.
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I know that by Saturday, I can have the file hosted on my website...
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Michael if you PM me I can host it.
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Of course, we all need to get it first...
I wonder where thepenguin77 and Sir Cmpwn are? They better be writing a kick-ass article about this. :P
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Cool, I've been wanting to get rid of OS v2.71
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I don't know what you guys are seeing, but says 2.71 on the RAM cleared screen for me. Also, it looks like the matrix inverse problem has come back, so they've obviously been messing with it.
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Wait how did you get it Qwerty? ???
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What, seriously? Screenies please?
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Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
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Sounds like they did add more bugs :P Also my calculator warranty has long been voided.
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Maybe this really is a working version that got accidentally leaked?
I don't think they would intentionally add bugs.
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Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
Sorry, but I'm on a school computer, not my own. I'll try to get home ASAP, but it'll take me a while.
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/me is confused now.
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We all are :P
So, new bugs. Typical TI...
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Maybe this really is a working version that got accidentally leaked?
I don't think they would intentionally add bugs.
Well that's unless the OS that got leaked was still in Beta, though.
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Leaked? I doubt they would have leaked it straight to the downloads page. Leaks usually get posted elsewhere.
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Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
Sorry, but I'm on a school computer, not my own. I'll try to get home ASAP, but it'll take me a while.
If you're on a school computer that doesn't even let you make photos/screenshots, how were you able to flash the new OS on your calculator in the 1st place ? . . .
So let's sum up things: strangely, everybody who got a 2.71 copy have computer access problems...
I hope it's just a coincidence...
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It can mean it was unintentionally released, either by a staff or intentionally released by a staff elsewhere without TI's permission. In this case it seems to be the former, but I'm unsure yet. If we talk for example about TI-Nspire prototypes on Ebay in 2007, we say they were leaked, as in released to the public even if they were not supposed to.
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Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
Sorry, but I'm on a school computer, not my own. I'll try to get home ASAP, but it'll take me a while.
If you're on a school computer that doesn't even let you make photos/screenshots, how were you able to flash the new OS on your calculator in the 1st place ? . . .
So let's sum up things: strangely, everybody who got a 2.71 copy have computer access problems...
I hope it's just a coincidence...
Qwerty has 2.71MP? So who else has it. :D
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Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
Sorry, but I'm on a school computer, not my own. I'll try to get home ASAP, but it'll take me a while.
If you're on a school computer that doesn't even let you make photos/screenshots, how were you able to flash the new OS on your calculator in the 1st place ? . . .
This might sound odd, but the some of the school computers have TI-connect. I'm seriously not joking. Other students have come up to me and asked how to use it. The computers obviously don't have WabbitEmu, though
Anyway, I'm going home now...
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I understand that some computers have ti-connect. I wish ours did though :/
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Be carefull! ;)
Querty.55 -> Can you take some photos/screenshots?
Sorry, but I'm on a school computer, not my own. I'll try to get home ASAP, but it'll take me a while.
If you're on a school computer that doesn't even let you make photos/screenshots, how were you able to flash the new OS on your calculator in the 1st place ? . . .
This might sound odd, but the some of the school computers have TI-connect. I'm seriously not joking. Other students have come up to me and asked how to use it. The computers obviously don't have WabbitEmu, though
Anyway, I'm going home now...
Be carefull ;)
And don't forget your calculator! :P
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Wow nice. At my school they used Deep Freeze so when computers are shutted down (the teacher turned off a breaker or something), when restarting the hard drive content was reverted back to its saved state.
Anyway I got a reply from ThePenguin77, at last. He sent me a copy of the OS, so I'm gonna try on my calc to make sure it's really the so called OS 2.71 MP.
I'm gonna post a video if it's real.
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Hey guys, sorry. I didn't realize I'd be the only person with the OS. I gave DJ the link so you should have a news shortly. I'd post the link here but this is news worthy.
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I'm still not convinced, is this an April Fools joke?
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We'll see in a bit, won't we :P
I'm personally hoping that it's real :)
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/me waits patiently as coffee courses through her veins :P
Um, um um, um, hi! Um, I hope it's real because it sounds like it could have some interesting features! Also, if anybody has use Graph3 and they also have a TI-89t (or some other awesome TI calc that graphs 3D), you were probably surprised by how much faster the Z80 version of 3D graphing and rotating is... Maybe TI will include 3D graphing on the Z80 calcs at some point?
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we'll find out soon enough. ;) Although if it is, DJ wouldn't tell you before April 1st is even here, right? :P Although based on IRC, I hope this is a joke...
EDIT: triple? ninja'd
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As said on IRC, I installed it on my calc and it's real. However it's OS 2.71MP, not 2.71.
I am gonna test it (mostly making sure DCS and Axe still works fine and try some games) then I'm gonna post a news with the link. I think I'm not going to restrain myself from posting a public download link after I saw this Nspire ad.
Maybe it's just a beta OS, though. (which might explain why it was removed)
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please tell me this is a really good photoshop... :'( TI has sunk lower than imagined.
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Wow, an actual picture! :D
I wonder what is added (other than more bugs and useless wizards).
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There's no need for him to retouch the photo. It's trivial to write a program that displays whatever you want.
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yeah, its prbably on the grpah screen or something. :P
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Well the stats wizards were actually useful for me >.<
TI dropped a notch in my respect meter.
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Oh, you've got to be joking.
Still, that ad is kind of funny, in a sad sort of way.
I hope TI isn't planning on stopping making z80 calculators.
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Nice try! ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)
But...
DJ, it seems you have been tricked, or that you're trying to trick us.
868 138 bytes is the size of the original 2.55MP OS
You told me the 2.71MP OS was 868 115 bytes.
The size is just wrong, 23 bytes too small.
It's the exact size you get by resigning the 2.55MP OS with RabbitSign.
Official OSes end with ":00000001FF -- CONVERT 2.6 -- \n0x1A".
RabbitSigned OSes just end with ":00000001FF", which is exactly 23 bytes smaller.
There is no way TI would have started to use RabbitSign with the 0x0A key we've hacked. :P
That OS is probably just a 2.55MP OS with its version & welcome strings modified, and then resigned with RabbitSign.
Strangely, nobody has sent it me up to now, although I'm usually sent important things.
I can release the 3.00MP OS for the TI-84+ immediatly if you want :P
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maybe they took out features...? Although at this point I hope its a joke.
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Weird. Could it be that some parts were optimized or bugs fixed? Because I know a bunch of people complained about the slowness of MathPrint and graphing before.
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Well the stats wizards were actually useful for me >.<
TI dropped a notch in my respect meter.
well, of course they got rid of stats. after all, teachers thought it was cheating :P
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This OS seems terribly unstable. And TI still hasn't fixed the Err:Version or Err:Bad Address so I'll have to whip those up. I don't really see what they added though.
Critor: That part of the OS file doesn't actually do anything does it? Is it possible that they just left it out?
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Critor: That part of the OS file doesn't actually do anything does it? Is it possible that they just left it out?
Which they haven't done for 7 years up to now :P
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(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/2.71.gif)
And you thought I was joking :P
EDIT: Wabbitemu runs a little fast for me, in case you're curious. If you want proof, look at the screenshots in Powder...
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(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/2.71.gif)
And you thought I was joking :P
No Nspire CX ad?
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I think DJ faked that one :P
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(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/2.71.gif)
And you thought I was joking :P
No Nspire CX ad?
:P
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Gahhh!/me goes crazy over if any of the are real.
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This OS seems terribly unstable. And TI still hasn't fixed the Err:Version or Err:Bad Address so I'll have to whip those up. I don't really see what they added though.
Critor: That part of the OS file doesn't actually do anything does it? Is it possible that they just left it out?
This sucks. To me this definitively seems like a BETA OS. I wouldn't be surprised if the final copy was something like 2.73MP or higher, or maybe a fixed 2.71. However maybe they improved some things to make them faster, which might explain the smaller size, but also the possible introduction of new bugs...
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I'd like to run this through a differencing program. You can find me in #ti, and I have spare webspace.
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Hmm... Something seems fishy. Why are the two ram clear screens different? ???
<.< >.>
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I think DJ faked that one :P
Qwerty, what are you talking about. I think you are the one that faked having this OS. I have the one I got from education.ti.com on my calculator right now and it has the ad.
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Wait, what? I sent my version of the OS to Critor, so let's see what he says.
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??? Wtf? Is this where the april fools joke ends?
Or did the staff member upload the wrong beta?
I'm so confused. :banghead: :-\
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Hm, I guess mine is fake then x.x
Just kidding :P
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Wait, what? I sent my version of the OS to Critor, so let's see what he says.
Where? I have neither new PM, nor emails...
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Critor, please check your PM's again. I attached a link to the file in it.
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What is going on here?
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Hum... I've only got a new MP from DJ apparently...
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Wait. One of the screen says TI-84 Plus and the other TI-84 Plus Silver Edition? Is it related?
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Hum... I've only got a new MP from DJ apparently...
Second PM sent...
You are user "critor" right?
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Maybe it is different depending on the version? It makes sense to me because it specializes the target audience for the ad.
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Or they just forgot to put the ad on the SE splash. Makes lots of sense.
We need someone with both a 84+ and a 84+SE to test it.
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Wait, there are two versions? Something is fishy...
On a related note, Xeda's post count is 1040 (tax-related) :P
EDIT: Is there a link to the correct .8xu yet?
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Does anyone know of any new bugs *cough*, I mean features?
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Yes, I am.
Sorry, I'm going to bed.
Have fun determining wether it's true/fake.
But as I said above, it's nice.
I've really enjoyed being with you.
If i's true,it's geat.
And if it's fake, the photos/screenshots are great too. (and funny) :)
I love the photo! ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)
It's great and funny!
Is it possible to link the photo?
(not for a news - of course with the a link to the post, and credit to the author)
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Well, it could be the same OS and all you need to do is check for the version to figure out which message to display. It is rather easy to do and it could make a different message depending on the model?
*cough*
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t-30 minutes to ticalc.org
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Hmm I just tried to run Illusiat 9 and got an ERR:SYNTAX. O.O (after the message saying to make sure CODEX is enabled)
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Well, it could be the same OS and all you need to do is check for the version to figure out which message to display. It is rather easy to do and it could make a different message depending on the model?
*cough*
One last word before falling asleep...
That's the case.
The same OS does display either "TI-84 Plus" either "TI-84 Plus Silver Edition" depending upon the hardware.
This doesn't prove it's fake at all.
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Hmm I just tried to run Illusiat 9 and got an ERR:SYNTAX. O.O (after the message saying to make sure CODEX is enabled)
What does that mean? ???
t-30 minutes to ticalc.org
Aww, so there really are new "features" :P
So now that you have it, should this be moved to News/should you post a news article?
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O.O Where does it point to?
That does not seem too good for the basic programmers.
I wouldn't be surprised if they changed bcalls too. :\
EDIT: Double Ninja'd.
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Yeah I confirm what Critor says, it's the same OS for both the 84+ and 84+SE, like how it's the same OS for the 83+ and 83+SE (1.13 through 1.19)
ralphdspam it just says Quit, not Goto. I'M gonna try re-sending the game files because this is an old TI-Graph Link group and TI-Connect has troubles with them.
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Well, it could be the same OS and all you need to do is check for the version to figure out which message to display. It is rather easy to do and it could make a different message depending on the model?
*cough*
One last word before falling asleep...
That's the case.
The same OS does display either "TI-84 Plus" either "TI-84 Plus Silver Edition" depending upon the hardware.
This doesn't prove it's fake at all.
I'm talking about the message displayed, not the model displayed :P
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Actually nevemind, I forgot I made Illusiat EDIT protected, I'll check CODEX readme to remember how to unlock programs with it.
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ralphdspam it just says Quit, not Goto. I'M gonna try re-sending the game files because this is an old TI-Graph Link group and TI-Connect has troubles with them.
??? That is very odd. Wait, does Illusiat 9 use any libs?
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Yeah, like how it's a different message whether you have a SE or not.
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Wait, so edit protected programs won't work? O.O
There must be some other change. Disallowing protected BASIC programs is ridiculous.
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Wait, so edit protected programs won't work? O.O
There must be some other change. Disallowing protected BASIC programs is ridiculous.
I think it probably works, but something in the program is causing an error due to some new bug that was introduced. That's my theory, anyway.
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Can we have a download link soon?
EDIT: Oh, wait, it's copyrighted, isn't it.
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Yeah, like how it's a different message whether you have a SE or not.
That's not quite right...
I may have had a program to generate the RAM cleared screen for OS 2.55 just laying around. If you'll notice, all I did was change the text to "2.71MP"
>.>
<.<
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Yeah, like how it's a different message whether you have a SE or not.
That's not quite right...
I may have had a program to generate the RAM cleared screen just laying around
>.>
<.<
/me stabs
So what'd you send to Critor? No wonder he was confused :P
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Note my *cough* a few posts back :D
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Wowwwww. What a troll.
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I sent him that program :P
April fools from me. I have no idea about DJ's thing, though.
I was serious about my school computers having TI-connect though.
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I'm guessing it's the same thing that changes whether is says Silver Edition or not that makes it advertise the CX or not.
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Ok, I found out why I got an ERR:SYNTAX. I'm posting a news now. This is... bad. And there's something wrong with APPS too.
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If you can't run Finance or Puzz Pack properly, you know that the os is messed up.
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Sooo...do not want?
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I even got some ERR:VALIDATION with some Axe apps on my side. Weird.
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If you can't run Finance or Puzz Pack properly, you know that the os is messed up.
Well... Finance isn't really an app anyway. They just didn't want to make a button for it :P
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I even got some ERR:VALIDATION with some Axe apps on my side. Weird.
Oh my, if this is true it means they did away with trial apps. Well, it should be easily patchable.
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Finance isn't an application. It's just another OS menu, like Stats or Math. They put it under Apps because they ran out of keys.
Edit: This thread is moving like an IRC chat. So why doesn't every one go to IRC?
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Okay, now TI's really screwed up x.x
But then that makes sense. It would explain why TI pulled it off their site, wouldn't it?
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WTH? I've never even heard of ERR:VALIDATION.
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Oh yeah, they were unsigned or something.
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ERR: ILLEGAL NEST is better.
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I get ERR:VALIDATION when CalcUtil's not installed...maybe that?
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That error's been around for a while. It happens when an OS isn't signed correctly, while it's getting transferred (I think).
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It can also happen when sending apps.
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That error's been around for a while. It happens when an OS isn't signed correctly, while it's getting transferred (I think).
When an app is transferred, IIRC. If it's an OS, I believe it just crashes and turns back on to the "please install OS now" thing.
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Oh, okay.
Why would it occur when an app's being run though? Does it get called runtime too?
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I bet DJ's going to release a news post at exactly 4/1 that says "HAHA SUCKERS"
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That error's been around for a while. It happens when an OS isn't signed correctly, while it's getting transferred (I think).
Yeah, I think it's what it happened, but for an app. Unless they revised their trial apps thingy?
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Oh, okay.
Why would it occur when an app's being run though? Does it get called runtime too?
With this, it seems to be. They could just remove the trial app thing and get essentially the same results. Does the app end up getting deleted after you run it?
I bet DJ's going to release a news post at exactly 4/1 that says "HAHA SUCKERS"
Most likely, yes.
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Well, finally the news is posted. http://ourl.ca/10053.new#new
EDIT: Locked. Happy fools day everyone. :D http://ourl.ca/10070