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General Discussion => Other Discussions => Humour and Jokes => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on April 21, 2012, 10:13:25 pm

Title: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 21, 2012, 10:13:25 pm

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120416.gif) (http://"http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2582")

This reminds me slightly of http://xkcd.com/768/
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: Juju on April 21, 2012, 10:28:50 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 10, 2012, 04:33:06 pm
Actually, the TI-83 had 27 KB of RAM and a 6 MHz processor.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: Detour on May 10, 2012, 06:33:29 pm
You read SMBC? Nice.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 10, 2012, 10:13:52 pm
As a sidenote, the TI-83 Plus has less RAM than a TI-82. (user accessible)
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2012, 10:33:14 pm
Yeah I always found this sucked, because TI claimed most 82 programs were compatible with the 83 and 83+, while 83 programs ran on the 83+ (BASIC of course), but most large ones in fact don't run due to lack of RAM. The 82 has 28 KB, the 83 a bit less than 27K and the 83+ 24K. Kinda ironic too considering the newer the calc, the lower the RAM (the same thing happened with the Casio FX-cg10/20)

Quote from: Detour on May 10, 2012, 06:33:29 pm
You read SMBC? Nice.
I don't read webcomics, but someone posted this somewhere that day and I found it funny.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 10, 2012, 10:38:04 pm
We can't even use the Flash memory readily; first, we have to delete the applications that are filling it and then we still can't run archived programs. TI is really mean.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2012, 10:41:43 pm
It has to be unlocked too, right? Although I could understand that part, since it's extremely dangerous if you don't know what you're doing (such as deleting the certificate by mistake).
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 11, 2012, 03:43:46 pm
It's better to just ask TI to include support for running archived programs. And it has to be unlocked?
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: willrandship on May 11, 2012, 04:07:34 pm
DoorsCS makes it much better. It copies the program to RAM, then runs it. It's safer too, since a crash would corrupt the copied program, if anything, rather than the original.

I believe DJ is referring to locking and unlocking Flash for writing. That would not be necessary for running Flash programs, IIRC. Apps still have to unlock flash to mess with it, implying it is locked while they are running.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 11, 2012, 04:12:26 pm
Quote from: willrandship on May 11, 2012, 04:07:34 pm
DoorsCS makes it much better. It copies the program to RAM, then runs it. It's safer too, since a crash would corrupt the copied program, if anything, rather than the original.

Does DoorsCS let archived programs be called from another program (RAM or Archive)?
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2012, 06:15:58 pm
Nope. Only the first program you run does so. That's unless, of course, you use the libraries in Doors CS to copy archived programs in RAM the same way Illusiat 13 and some of my other games did.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 11, 2012, 06:28:06 pm
Or you can just use Flash Gordon.
...or TPROG.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: willrandship on May 13, 2012, 10:29:24 pm
or a small chunk of Asm in a helper program, that allows you to use TIOS's archive and unarchive commands.

There's lots of options
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: Jonius7 on May 14, 2012, 07:19:29 am
Quote from: DJ_O on April 21, 2012, 10:13:25 pm
Spoiler For Da big Opening Post:

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120416.gif) (http://"http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2582")

This reminds me slightly of http://xkcd.com/768/

Well Critor's gonna become rich! XD
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: turiqwalrus on May 14, 2012, 10:15:05 am
Quote from: Jonius7 on May 14, 2012, 07:19:29 am
Quote from: DJ_O on April 21, 2012, 10:13:25 pm
Spoiler For Da big Opening Post:

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120416.gif) (http://"http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2582")

This reminds me slightly of http://xkcd.com/768/

Well Critor's gonna become rich! XD
He would if he sold his calculators...
/me doesn't think this will happen any time in the near future
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: flyingfisch on May 14, 2012, 11:09:30 am
Quote from: DJ_O on May 10, 2012, 10:33:14 pm
Yeah I always found this sucked, because TI claimed most 82 programs were compatible with the 83 and 83+, while 83 programs ran on the 83+ (BASIC of course), but most large ones in fact don't run due to lack of RAM. The 82 has 28 KB, the 83 a bit less than 27K and the 83+ 24K. Kinda ironic too considering the newer the calc, the lower the RAM (the same thing happened with the Casio FX-cg10/20)
...

I don't think so....
I am pretty sure that the PRIZM and the 9860 have approx the same amount of RAM.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 14, 2012, 11:30:36 am
No, the PRIZM (61 KB) has 3 KB less user RAM than the 9860 (64 KB).

Also I noticed the same problem when going from the FX 9850G (32 KB) to the newer 9750G (28 KB)

Quote from: blue_bear_94 on May 11, 2012, 06:28:06 pm
Or you can just use Flash Gordon.
...or TPROG.
Yeah true, although the point is that it would be cool if it was possible to run archived programs using prgmNAME (like the TI-89) rather than having to use a different syntax and external program. That way no code modification would be required.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 04:04:47 pm
Quote from: willrandship on May 13, 2012, 10:29:24 pm
or a small chunk of Asm in a helper program, that allows you to use TIOS's archive and unarchive commands.

There's lots of options

I used that in Sunrise 3, but it would wear down your flash quickly.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: Keoni29 on May 14, 2012, 04:14:02 pm
So... Everyone should buy calculators instead of obligations?
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 05:57:54 pm
I believe that was what the OP meant.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2012, 03:18:06 pm
Quote from: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 04:04:47 pm
Quote from: willrandship on May 13, 2012, 10:29:24 pm
or a small chunk of Asm in a helper program, that allows you to use TIOS's archive and unarchive commands.

There's lots of options

I used that in Sunrise 3, but it would wear down your flash quickly.
IIRC it won't happen in less than 20 years and that's if you rewrite your archive non-stop, like modding the calc to connect it to a power supply and have it run a forced garbage collect program that loops forever without ever stopping it.. It drains batteries very fast, though (see The Reign of Legends 1 and 2, for example). This is why it's great that one day there were new programs letting you copy archive content in RAM instead of un/archiving it constantly.
Title: Re: Calculators should be used as the world's reserve currency.
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 15, 2012, 04:59:00 pm
Umm... I'm planning to use my calc for as long as I can. Maybe more than 20 years.