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Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« on: December 29, 2012, 08:59:11 pm »
I came up with a physics theory... like... one dealing with the entire universe (non quantum, though)

I need to do a little math, but the basic concept is done

How do I get this theory out in a way that it has a chance of survival and in a way that no one steals it?
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 09:02:59 pm »
You need to do a little math, huh. On the highly unlikely chance that you actually have come up with something original, go get it published. A much more jarring reality, perhaps, is that nobody wants to steal an incorrect and underdeveloped theory (how can you claim to represent the universe if you don't deal with quantum mechanics, I wonder)
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 09:08:38 pm »
Not a unified theory... just a modification on the big bang
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 09:10:18 pm »
If you explained your brilliant revelation in layman's terms, maybe I'd be more inclined to believe you.
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 10:04:08 pm »
^ Agreed, I'm interested in hearing and analyzing.
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Re: Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 10:33:38 pm »
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 10:35:43 pm »
How do I get this theory out in a way that it has a chance of survival and in a way that no one steals it?

The method used in science is more or less the honor system along with a little bit of first-come, first-serve with regard to papers.

That said, what you have isn't a theory in the scientific sense, it's a hypothesis or a model. Something becomes a theory when it has a wide body of experimental evidence behind it.


Edit: Also, what they said ^
« Last Edit: December 29, 2012, 10:36:17 pm by Qwerty.55 »
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 10:04:16 am »
Well, not a theory yet, I suppose...

However mine does explain a few things...

Here it is:

Instead of the current big bang model, thinking that all matter went in straight lines, and the infinitely dense mass in the center is no longer there, think this:

1) The center is still there, because infinity minus any finite number is still infinity. This works because there is finite space in the universe, so there can not be infinite matter in the universe unless the universe was infinitely dense, except in the center, because the center is infinitely dense and has infinite matter in a smaller space than the universe. In my hypothesis, it's actually a wormhole that leads to a different universe (not a dimension, remember that).

2) Because it's a wormhole, it spins, and in fact is quite large. This means that it either at its creation, the big bang had enough force to counteract the infinite gravity and go in an outwards spiral orbit instead of a straight path one due to the rotating nature of a wormhole, or is spouting out matter from another universe with enough force to counteract the infinite gravity and go in an outwards spiral orbit.

Q/A:

Q: How is the gravity infinite?

A: Infinite mass = infinite gravity, no matter what the distance in our universe.

Q: How is this possible to counteract infinite gravity?

A: With a force infinity^n where n>1 running perpendicular to the gravitational force, causing an outwards spiral orbit. (I thank my calc teacher for telling me that inf^1 and inf^2 are different, but not inf and 2inf)

Reasoning:

The masses of the universe are still attracting each other, yet still expand (found that in Stephan Hawking's book, a brief history of time).

If all mass left the big bang with a linear path with a force infinity^n where n>1, then there would be 0 relative velocity because placing infinity in the velocity by force equation, you get infinite velocity, so nothing would be able to form an orbit (caused by different relative velocities not being 0)
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 11:54:49 am »
Very nice. I hope you don't mind if I point out a few issues to help you develop it though :)

Instead of the current big bang model, thinking that all matter went in straight lines, and the infinitely dense mass in the center is no longer there...

That's not the BB model. In fact, the current idea is that the BB was an expansion of spacetime itself, not an explosion of matter within spacetime. Of course, this also suggests that energy was never really concentrated in the "center", which is indeed part of the current model.

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The center is still there, because infinity minus any finite number is still infinity. This works because there is finite space in the universe...

Two issues here. One is that infinity isn't a number in the standard reals, so Inf-x for real x is not a valid operation. It doesn't have a finite answer because there is no definite answer at all. There are systems where infinity is a number, but they're subtly different and none of the major physical theories utilize them. Instead, they use a process called renormalization to get rid of the infinities.

Secondly, it's hotly disputed whether the universe is finite.

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Because it's a wormhole, it spins, and in fact is quite large. This means that it either at its creation...


I'm not sure why a wormhole must spin or be large, nor why this would imply that it was at its own creation.

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Q: How is this possible to counteract infinite gravity?

A: With a force infinity^n where n>1 running perpendicular to the gravitational force, causing an outwards spiral orbit. (I thank my calc teacher for telling me that inf^1 and inf^2 are different, but not inf and 2inf)

You have a couple of misconceptions here. No infinity is part of the real numbers. You can't have a force of inf_x in any major physical theory because it's not a number, kind of like having a force of Blue newtons doesn't make sense. Secondly, the aleph numbers (what you call inf^1 and so on) aren't separated by exponents. Rather, they're separated by what are called power sets. If you take the integers and find their power set, you get something isomorphic to the reals. Take the power set of that and you get the next level up and so on. Every aleph number is basically "equal" to 2^N_(n-1), except for aleph null, which is the "smallest" infinity.

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If all mass left the big bang with a linear path with a force infinity^n where n>1, then there would be 0 relative velocity because placing infinity in the velocity by force equation, you get infinite velocity...

This is an example of why infinity isn't a number :P
You can't plug it into real equations and get out valid results. Whatever you get out is useless. Also, newtonian physics deals with a cartesian spacetime only, something NOT compatible with general relativity (a theory heavily tied in with the BB model).
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 01:08:14 pm »
There's a lot of misconception surrounding the Big Bang, and it's not an explosion from a point, it's an explosion of spacetime which happened at all space and all time (akin to a phase change, although the universe was arguably smaller back then). Spacetime came from the Big Bang, not the other way around.
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Re: Physics Theory - Any Suggestions?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012, 01:12:12 pm »
well, thanks for clearing stuff up... I guess it isn't that good an idea...
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