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Title: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 25, 2011, 01:56:41 pm
Ndless 2.0 is the latest and greatest way to develop and run third-party software on the TI-Nspire.
This version:
- (update: 2011/06/11) has now moved to a stable state
- is compatible with OS v1.7, v2.0.1, v2.1.0
- run on both Clickpad and Touchpad models

Ndless v2.0 binaries are available in Omnimaga's download section (http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=598).

Issue tracker: http://www.unsads.com/projects/nsptools/report/1
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Mrakoplaz on February 25, 2011, 02:03:07 pm
Heh, with the recent upsurge in new users wanting Ndless, I was just about to ask you to do something like this, seeing as I've experienced absolutely zero bugs in the two months I've been using it... nice to see we think alike.

With that in mind, I still must commend you on your decision! This definitely should make a lot of less-technical people feel less frustrated. I'll try and help with bug reports whenever I can, but I seriously haven't ran into any (as nDoom's failings had been due to my own stupidity).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: broooom on February 25, 2011, 02:15:36 pm
Nice! :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: compu on February 25, 2011, 02:39:05 pm
That's nice! I would really like to have touchpad support, even if I don't use mine at the moment (if you want it, I could send it to you :P)

I'll try and help with bug reports whenever I can, but I seriously haven't ran into any
I agree, I have never had any real bug while using ndless :)

And yesterday I started working on an on-screen console, till now it can only output text (printf-like)... I wanted to start working on the input functions today, but I think you could do a better job than me ;)

Anyways, this is what I got for now:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/screen_console.PNG)

And the associated source:
Code: [Select]
cprintf("%s built at %s %s\n\n",__FILE__,__DATE__,__TIME__);
cprint("Tab test\t\t123\n");
cprint("Tab test 2\t456\n");
cprint("Tab test  3\t789\n");
cprint("\\r Test\r/\n");
cprint("\\b Test 123\b\b\b456\n");
int i = 1000;
cprintf("i is %d",i);
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 25, 2011, 03:12:31 pm
This is great! Glad to see this back in the works. :D

Also yeah I saw many people had troubles compiling it due to dependencies so I guess this should help them.

I'll update what I got on my calc. Great job as usual ExtendeD!
The release of OS v3.0 is imminent (isn't it already noon in Dallas (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=70)?) and Ndless may require a significant effort to be updated for it.
It actually got announced during night, about 12 hours earlier than supposed. As we checked some new stuff were appearing, though, so they were most likely almost done preparing the site. Also it was to preview OS 3.0/Nspire CX features rather than a release.

I hope you have more free time soon.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on February 25, 2011, 04:20:08 pm
just one stupid question, sry:
does it work on os 1.7.xxx??

thanks!

Yes.  Just make sure you use the appropriate ndless_installer.tns :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: merauder75 on February 25, 2011, 04:28:12 pm
Hurray! Now I can stop being annoying to you guys here on the forum, oh, and is it possible to use gbc4nspire by recompiling it?

EDIT: Well, I only played tetris anyway

EDIT: Gah, left my nspire in the car, but seriously, you guys rule.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on February 25, 2011, 04:29:25 pm
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=topicattach;topic=1243

gbc4nspire that will work on the touchpad ^^^

I think one bug present in that is that it will only start the first GB rom in the list, though.

gbc4nspire cannot be recompiled because the source code has been lost.  The only way to change is to go though the tedious process of hex editing it. :(
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 25, 2011, 04:54:11 pm
Is that version of gbc4nspire available on Ticalc.org and OMni download section, by the way? I remember Goplat's update was included but I forgot if it worked on the Touchpad...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: merauder75 on February 25, 2011, 05:14:56 pm
ANy changes in the install process? I am upgrading to 2.1 now, and am going to repeat the procedure for 1.7

EDIT: Ok, good
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 25, 2011, 05:16:34 pm
The install process is unchanged.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on February 25, 2011, 06:43:22 pm
ExtendeD, I have posted severall messages about that...

What about the programs which need to use the numeric keys for menus (Norse, Nover, mViewer...) or for inputting data (Norse) ?


Such a trick should not be cared of at the Ndless level.

If I've understood well, I would need to modify all of them in order to check for arrow keys... And once the TouchPad arrows are supported, I'll need to modify them back to check for numeric keys...


Why don't you simply let the programmers the freedom to decide by themselves how they want to handle numeric key presses in their own programs?


If the "2" key is being pressed, Ndless should simply report that the "2" key has been pressed and not the "down-arrow", which is a lie.

I don't think it's hard for game developers to check for "right_arrow OR 6 OR 3 OR 9" for example...
And as programs have anyway to be recompiled in order to work with the TouchPad keypad, I can't understand at all why you've made such a strange mapping.


Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on February 25, 2011, 07:00:48 pm
Although I could understand the reasoning for making the number keys represent the arrow keys, I also have to agree with critor on this.  Perhaps something like this could be a solution (note, I did not test either of these, I am not 100% sure they will work! :)):

Code: [Select]
BOOL isRightArrowPressed() {
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_6)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_RIGHT);
}

BOOL isUpArrowPressed() {
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_8)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_UP);
}

BOOL isLeftArrowPressed() {
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_4)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_LEFT);
}

BOOL isDownArrowPressed() {
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_5)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_2)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_DOWN);
}

------or-------

BOOL isArrowKeyPressed(key) {
switch(key) {
case KEY_NSPIRE_UP:
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_6)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_RIGHT);
case KEY_NSPIRE_DOWN:
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_5)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_2)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_DOWN);
case KEY_NSPIRE_LEFT:
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_4)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_LEFT);
case KEY_NSPIRE_RIGHT:
return isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_6)||isKeyPressed(KEY_NSPIRE_RIGHT);
return false;
}
}
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on February 25, 2011, 07:17:17 pm
Why don't we use Ctrl combo ?
Because Norse and Nover use the numpad keys as numbers...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on February 25, 2011, 08:08:43 pm
You definitely need to make it so that it does not report back right arrow pressed when you press down the 6. I was thinking of writing a program for my touchpad, but i would need to be able to use the number keys for input. this would also help update programs from 1.7 to 2.0 touchpad compatible. Theres my 2 cents
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: compu on February 26, 2011, 01:39:43 pm
It looks like the '=' key is mapped incorrect...
shouldn't it be
Quote
#define KEY_NSPIRE_EQU          KEYTPAD_(0x1E, 0x400, 0x18, 0x080)
instead of
Quote
#define KEY_NSPIRE_EQU          KEYTPAD_(0x1C, 0x400, 0x18, 0x080)

???
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 26, 2011, 05:42:55 pm
Are the ndless_resources files for ndless 1.7 and 2.0 the same?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Yeong on February 26, 2011, 07:59:58 pm
wait...so "no bug" means that it no longer haz installation bug/theta bug?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on February 26, 2011, 08:01:18 pm
Are the ndless_resources files for ndless 1.7 and 2.0 the same?

Yes, they are.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 27, 2011, 03:38:05 am
It looks like the '=' key is mapped incorrect...

You're right! It's now fixed.

wait...so "no bug" means that it no longer haz installation bug/theta bug?

The theta bug had already been fixed in v1.7.
The calculator may still hang during some installations, but it will always succeed the second time.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 10:29:46 am
hi
I want to use my clac to play littel games like tetris or bomberman...so i checked the internet for some info how to use my clac as a gameboy...i know that i need an emulator like gbc4nspire and also ndless is needed for playing games on my clac....
but, i want to use my ti nspiere(with touchpad) also for the normal maths lessons...
so i want to know: can I run ndless 2.0 and gbc4nspire on my calc without losing the normal calculator funktions?...or is ther ,if i have installed ndless 2.0, no way for using my calc in school?
and one more question: can ndless 2.0 make permanent hardwear-damage on my clac?

thanks for answers
P.S. sry if my english is bad...i'm just learning
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: NeoCrisis on February 27, 2011, 10:34:06 am
Welcome on Omnimaga CrashedSystem!

You can install Ndless on your Nspire Touchpad and still have the normal calc functions! You can still use your calc at school, nothing changes on the screen, except the possibility to run C and ASM programs. Ndless 2.0 doesn't make any hardware-damage on your calc, I have installed Ndless 2.0 since a few weeks and it's working perfectly, except for gbc4nspire, which is not compatible with the touchpad yet. but you can try nDoom and nTris, which are fully compatible with the Touchpad!

Enjoy Omnimaga ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: JosJuice on February 27, 2011, 10:34:32 am
hi
I want to use my clac to play littel games like tetris or bomberman...so i checked the internet for some info how to use my clac as a gameboy...i know that i need an emulator like gbc4nspire and also ndless is needed for playing games on my clac....
but, i want to use my ti nspiere(with touchpad) also for the normal maths lessons...
so i want to know: can I run ndless 2.0 and gbc4nspire on my calc without losing the normal calculator funktions?...or is ther ,if i have installed ndless 2.0, no way for using my calc in school?
and one more question: can ndless 2.0 make permanent hardwear-damage on my clac?

thanks for answers
P.S. sry if my english is bad...i'm just learning
You can continue using your calculator as normal when Ndless and gbc4nspire are installed (but you can't do math and play Game Boy at the same time, obviously :P). It shouldn't damage your calculator at all. The worst thing that might happen is that you have to re-send the OS to your calculator, and I don't think that happens often.

EDIT: ninja'd again... It's one of the things I'm good at :P
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on February 27, 2011, 11:07:28 am
hi
I want to use my clac to play littel games like tetris or bomberman...so i checked the internet for some info how to use my clac as a gameboy...i know that i need an emulator like gbc4nspire and also ndless is needed for playing games on my clac....
but, i want to use my ti nspiere(with touchpad) also for the normal maths lessons...
so i want to know: can I run ndless 2.0 and gbc4nspire on my calc without losing the normal calculator funktions?...or is ther ,if i have installed ndless 2.0, no way for using my calc in school?
and one more question: can ndless 2.0 make permanent hardwear-damage on my clac?

thanks for answers
P.S. sry if my english is bad...i'm just learning

Yes, your Nspire will be fine after installing ndless/running Game Boy Games.  The math stuff is untouched! :)

ninja'd! (I think I did not refresh the page, and I didn't realize that this was already answered about 45 minutes ago! :P)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: shrear on February 27, 2011, 12:19:30 pm
except for gbc4nspire, which is not compatible with the touchpad yet.
Actually there is a touchpad compatible version of gbc4nspire, it can be fund in this post (http://ourl.ca/3840/166688)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 01:04:48 pm
ok thanks
I will insalt nedless 2.0 now so i can play pokemon in my maths lessons tomorrow xD

except for gbc4nspire, which is not compatible with the touchpad yet.
Actually there is a touchpad compatible version of gbc4nspire, it can be fund in this post (http://ourl.ca/3840/166688)
I will also try this
thanks for all
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 01:34:42 pm
hey,
i try to install ndless now, and I followed all instuktions off the read-me file but even after 5 trys of instaling ndless ther is no succses... if I click at ndless_installer_os.... ther are 2 vertical bars of balck pixels...

the read-me file tolld me:
"The calculator may display a frozen clock and possibly 1, 2 or 3 vertical
 bars of random pixels on the screen. You are out of luck, the installation
 failed. The TI-Nspire may reboot by itself after a few seconds.
 If not, force a reboot by unplugging the USB cable if plugged in, then removing
 and putting back a battery. Retry the installation again."

now i dont know how to help myself...sry I'm a bit noobie
how can i fix it?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: shrear on February 27, 2011, 01:42:03 pm
a) don't double post please, use the edit button
b) ndless is OS version specific, so check if the number at the end of the ndless-file-name corresponds to your current OS
- press 5 then 4 at the homescreen to display your current -OS version
c) make sure that ndless_installer_os##.tns and ndless_resources.tns are in the same folder (and not in the MyLib folder!)

Hope this helps

Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 01:49:39 pm
ok sry for double post...(wow you anserws realy fast)
ok will try again
thanks


Edit: my calc version is 2.0.0.1188
       but ther is only an ndless 2.1.0 or 2.0.1
       should I update my os?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ztrumpet on February 27, 2011, 01:59:48 pm
Edit: my calc version is 2.0.0.1188
       but ther is only an ndless 2.1.0 or 2.0.1
       should I update my os?
Yes, I believe you should. :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 27, 2011, 02:22:52 pm
I have updated the ReadMe file to make these things clearer.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 03:07:05 pm
can anybody post a link to an OS 2.0.1 witch is not a .tno file but a .tns file
i can't run .tno filels on my tuchpad-Nspire,right?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on February 27, 2011, 03:08:15 pm
operating systems are all .tno/.tnc I thought if you look in the general calculator help forum there is a thread that has links to most of the OS's
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 27, 2011, 03:09:07 pm
Please follow this tutorial to update the OS: http://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/csksxvm.jsp?nSetNumber=21390
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 03:10:59 pm
ok thanks for help

Edit: i know it is offtopic but how can I move rom-files to my calc....
computer Link does not move files but .tns...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 27, 2011, 04:23:36 pm
In the tools menu, click on update os.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: CrashedSystem on February 27, 2011, 04:26:21 pm
...no i don't want to upadate it...it is allready 2.1.0....but now i need games on my calc but can move them to my nspire...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 27, 2011, 04:44:43 pm
Oh, you mean gameboy ROMs. My bad. You have to change the file extension to .gb.tns or .gbc.tns Make sure you can view the file extensions in windows or it won't work.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Peetz0rz on February 28, 2011, 10:04:46 am
Ok, first I want to thank you for making Ndless 2.0 beta. But I've got a problem. When I am starting Ndless 2.0.1 on my 2.0.1.60 TI-nspire (clickpad) calculator, I can see the clock turning but there are 2 black stripes at the top of the screen. There is also a harddisk shown at the upperright corner. I can't press any button and I have to reset my calc by removing a battery. And the same happens when I try to install 2.1 and update my calc to 2.1.0.631. :banghead: Can someone pls help me... The previous version, 1.7, was working fine by the way...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: shrear on February 28, 2011, 01:03:50 pm
Did you try it just one time each?

Quote
There is also a harddisk shown at the upperright corner.
if it looks like the attached pic then it has nothing to do with ndless.
else could you give us a more precise instruction?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 28, 2011, 02:14:18 pm
Did you make sure not to transfer the Ndless files to the directory MyLib?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Peetz0rz on February 28, 2011, 03:27:16 pm
Did you make sure not to transfer the Ndless files to the directory MyLib?

I didn't. I made 3 folders. ndless 2.1, ndless 2.0 and ndless 1.7. In those folders I pasted the install and resources files. (ndless_installer_os-1.7.tns in ndless 1.7, ndless_installer_os-2.0.1.tns in ndless 2.0 and ndless_installer_os-2.1.0.tns in 2.1)

Did you try it just one time each?

Nope, I tried it a couple of times. Sometimes there is a harddisk with a triangle and a exclamation mark in it and sometimes the calculator just freezes and is rebooting.
if it looks like the attached pic then it has nothing to do with ndless.
else could you give us a more precise instruction?

And the icon you send me isn't the same as the one on my screen. When I try to make a screenshot in TI-Nspire computer Link it doesn't work because the program doesn't recognize my calculator.

Well, I will give you a precise instruction  ;D
- I first deleted the os and all the files (home + p + enter + on, option 4, pressed 1)
- Then I connected my calc with the computer for OS 2.0.1.60 (TI-nspire Link -> extra -> send OS)
- When OS installed, I made the three folders and putted the files in them.
- And then it happend.
- The same happend using 2.1.0.631 by the way...

If you want to know more, just ask me ;D
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on February 28, 2011, 03:54:51 pm
As suggested in the ReadMe file:
Make sure that the name of the target directory doesn't contain 
any special characters such as '.'
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: sodium.777 on February 28, 2011, 06:03:28 pm
so does portalx and doodlejump work on tinspire cas? :D
which computer link software should i get to install ndoom on it?
currently when i try to copy ndoom files onto calc with1.3 it says i cannot have subfoldersetc etc or cannot copy there  :banghead: :banghead:

also should i update to 3.0? or is it just a cheap con to get textbooks to update their stuff?
the only intersting thing is a clour screen and image viewer. great... i can watch porn on it now  ._.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on February 28, 2011, 06:51:46 pm
OS 3.0 ? O_o
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Peetz0rz on March 01, 2011, 09:06:03 am
As suggested in the ReadMe file:
Make sure that the name of the target directory doesn't contain 
any special characters such as '.'

THX! I managed to get it working! But why aren't special characters allowed in v 2.0 or v2.1? It wasn't a problem in v1.7...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: JosJuice on March 01, 2011, 11:01:43 am
OS 3.0 isn't released yet (AFAIK)... I wouldn't recommend updating until we know more about it.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on March 01, 2011, 11:39:54 am
As suggested in the ReadMe file:
Make sure that the name of the target directory doesn't contain 
any special characters such as '.'

THX! I managed to get it working! But why aren't special characters allowed in v 2.0 or v2.1? It wasn't a problem in v1.7...

Ndless use OS routines. The OS routines, especially for files browsing, parse file paths and remve special characters. It is the same kind of problem when a document contains a special character and is supposed shared in the library manager : It doesn't appear in library manager.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: coolrudski on March 02, 2011, 03:42:04 pm
So i have a ti nspire cas touchpad and i have os 2.1.xxx. I downloaded ndless its in the folder called video games (is a space a special character though?) and it also has ndless resources in the same folder. it didnt crash but i had no message of success of installation and the demo particles doesn't even work... I get the error message "the document format is not supported" right after running ndless. any ideas?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 02, 2011, 03:45:00 pm
Hi and welcome to the forums. I believe a space is a special character, but I'm not sure. The best way would be to get rid of the space, in case. What I would do now is to pull a battery for 10 seconds then reboot the calc, then try re-installing Ndless again. I believe you can retry after a failed attempt, but in my case the calc froze once, so I'm not sure.

Also did you make sure to install the right version of Ndless? Some people get confused with 2.0.1 and 2.1.0.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: coolrudski on March 02, 2011, 03:52:20 pm
why thank you. i used the right version and took out the space... still same error message... and tried once twice and three times still same message... is there something affecting it? should i try resetting the whole thing? or should i try to change the file type...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 02, 2011, 04:11:55 pm
Strange, then. What model of TI-Nspire? I cannot help much, though, because I myself had troubles with some versions of Ndless. I don't know what could affect it. Hopefully someone with more Ndless experience than me can help you (although it will most likely be tomorrow unless we are lucky, since most of them live in Europe)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: coolrudski on March 02, 2011, 04:13:02 pm
ti nspire cas touchpad... thats ok
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 03, 2011, 04:22:30 am
Do you see any dotted line at the bottom of the screen when the document format error is displayed?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: NeoCrisis on March 03, 2011, 10:50:10 am
well, normally it works, just try to run a Ndless-requiring program to test. I used gbc4nspire and nover to know if mine was working (I have the same error messages, but it works :) )
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: calc84maniac on March 03, 2011, 12:06:19 pm
Yeah, for me it says "document not supported" even after it installs successfully.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 03, 2011, 12:08:26 pm
I thought this one was fixed :(
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: calc84maniac on March 03, 2011, 02:49:49 pm
I thought this one was fixed :(
Oh, well I might not be using the latest build though. Just saying, it's been a known issue.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: coolrudski on March 03, 2011, 07:46:02 pm
i got it working actually! i redownloaded it and it works now thanks for all the support!
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 04, 2011, 02:19:08 am
Good. Did you see the installation popup as expected?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 04, 2011, 02:24:18 am
By the way, when installing, is there a specific part of the screen on which the 2 or 3 weird horizontal lines must appear to confirm it was really installed?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 04, 2011, 02:27:22 am
The dotted lines should in this version appear on the bottom lines of the screen.
The bars full of pixels just flash: if they don't disappear, then the installation has hung.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 04, 2011, 02:29:55 am
Ok, yeah I meant the ones with random pixels. I wondered if they had to appear at a specific part of the screen or if they could be random.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 04, 2011, 02:49:13 am
The position is fixed: one at the top of the screen, the second at about 2/3 of the screen I think.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 04, 2011, 02:56:34 am
Ah ok, good.

On an off-topic note, is it possible for a TI-Nspire to enter test mode, as in blue lines of death on the 83+ or blue screen of death on the 83+SE, 84+ and 84+SE? When pulling a battery while an Ndless game is running, I see a blue line appear like when turning OFF a TI-89 Titanium or a TI-92 and it slowly disappear. When some 83+ ASM games crashed, this happened sometimes.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: dbenderboy on March 04, 2011, 08:34:45 pm
how can i transfer the ndless_installer fils over to the directory or the calculator? i tried but it wont let me
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on March 04, 2011, 09:51:50 pm
how can i transfer the ndless_installer fils over to the directory or the calculator? i tried but it wont let me

Just transfer them like a normal Nspire .tns document with the Computer Link software from TI's website! :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 06, 2011, 08:38:44 am
New beta (r382) (http://bytecode.fr/miscfiles/ti/nspire/ndless-2.0-beta) fully compatible with the Touchpad area! Many thanks to Goplat and shrear for their help.
Programs should be rebuilt with this version to migrate their isKeyPressed() calls.

Changelog:
- isKeyPressed() compatible with Touchpad
- New Touchpad API
- New macros swap16 and swap32
- Fix KEY_NSPIRE_EQU (thanks compu)
- Add KEY_NSPIRE_FRAC (thanks shrear)
- Fix wrong restoration of the FIQ handler by the installer (thanks Goplat)
- Fix broken va_list and va_arg with char parameters (thanks Goplat and compu)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: dman2073 on March 06, 2011, 09:07:27 am
Thanks a lot ExtendeD!!!
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on March 07, 2011, 08:06:56 pm
I don't know if this has allready been reported, but I've got another ClickPad key error in common.h:

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#define KEY_NSPIRE_UP           KEYTPAD_ARROW_(0x1E, 0x001, TPAD_ARROW_UP)
#define KEY_NSPIRE_CLICK        KEYTPAD_ARROW_(0x1E, 0x001, TPAD_ARROW_CLICK)

On a ClickPad keypad, the "click" key doesn't work, and pressing the "up" key does press the "click" key by the same time.


Correction:
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#define KEY_NSPIRE_CLICK        KEYTPAD_ARROW_(0x1C, 0x002, TPAD_ARROW_CLICK)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: broooom on March 08, 2011, 07:37:03 am
For those interested: I set up a build mirror that builds ndless from SVN every 24 hours. :)

The mirror can be found at http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless.

The latest zipped ndless release can always be found at http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/ndless.zip! :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 09, 2011, 12:14:38 am
Nice. Make sure to disable it when it enters the 3.0 phase, though, as ExtendeD doesn't like Ndless alphas to be distributed in binary form until they reach public beta status.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 12, 2011, 03:35:36 am
critor: you're right, it's now fixed.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 12, 2011, 04:44:25 am
As suggested by critor, starting from r385 touchpad_scan() updates report->arrow for easier "touched" arrow scan. This allows smoother navigation in user interfaces by avoiding the keys to be pressed.
You will have to wait for broooom's build script to run before downloading the build.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 12, 2011, 02:58:05 pm
Do any of you all know what programs Ndless 2.0 is compatible with? I'm using one of the original TI-Nspire's.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: aeTIos on March 12, 2011, 03:00:24 pm
I don't know. I think a lot of the games supported in earlier versions.

Welcome here, and... why is your name Bush?
Anyways, hope you enjoy your stay here!
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: fb39ca4 on March 12, 2011, 03:10:59 pm
Welcome ... George W. Bush! Enjoy your stay!
Ndless 2.0 will run programs compiled for ndless 1.7, but not 1.0/1.1. As you are a clickpad user, you can use basically any program, but not all programs support the touchpad.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 12, 2011, 03:15:07 pm
Thank-you very much for your answer. Your post was very helpful!

I used Ndless 1.1 for a long time, but then decided to give Ndless 1.7 a shot. Now I'll try 2.0 since it'll work with all my programs.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 12, 2011, 04:34:03 pm
I just tried Ndless 2.0 on OS 2.0.1, but two bars of random pixels appeared on the upper part of the screen and the calculator restarted.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: momrocker on March 12, 2011, 04:35:35 pm
That means that the ndless install didn't work. Retry and if it doesn't work, update to 2.1.0.631 and try the 2.1 installer. That one always works for me.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 12, 2011, 05:42:59 pm
I just downgraded to System 1.7 and it's working great now.

Haven't got the Doom game to work yet though.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: fb39ca4 on March 12, 2011, 11:10:18 pm
For me, doom didnt work on os 1.7 with ndless 2.0 either. I think it has to do with the new directory system of my documents.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 13, 2011, 10:08:02 am
In System 1.7, you can have subfolders and other files, but it's only the documents browser that hides them. There was a time when I made subfolders in System 2.0 and downgraded to System 1.7. In TI-Nspire Link they still appeared, but I couldn't manage them on the calculator.

It would be nice to get Doom to work in System 1.7 though. I can't get Ndless to run on System 2.0 and 2.1 (It just freezes with two horizontal bars of random pixels).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 14, 2011, 08:22:56 am
Did you make sure to use the file ndless_installer.tns which corresponds to your OS version?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 15, 2011, 03:14:06 pm
The last time I tried to install Ndless (following a Mviewer freeze) it failed twice. I had to pull a battery both times, but the 3rd time Ndless installed perfectly.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 15, 2011, 05:07:28 pm
Did you make sure to use the file ndless_installer.tns which corresponds to your OS version?

Yes I did. I double-checked when I tried to install it.

I'm using a "Click-Pad" TI-Nspire that I purchased in 2007.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 16, 2011, 10:46:07 am
Can you make sure you are not transfering the Ndless files to MyLib? This is an issue with this system folder I still need to investigate.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Jonius7 on March 18, 2011, 05:51:28 am
Wow, i haven't tried ndless for ages, and there is so much development. it is working on 2.0. i remember it only working on 1.1 a while ago. Great work ExtendeD!
And you can install it from the tns file? That's an improvement.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Lionel Debroux on March 18, 2011, 05:56:25 am
Quote
And you can install it from the tns file?
Yes.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Jonius7 on March 18, 2011, 06:19:06 am
Wait, it's not working. i installed it and also downloaded ndoom. but it says
the document format is not supported. ndoom_b1.tns
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: merauder75 on March 18, 2011, 07:54:58 pm
Umm, i would try running ndless again.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 19, 2011, 09:49:05 am
Can you make sure you are not transfering the Ndless files to MyLib? This is an issue with this system folder I still need to investigate.

I made a special folder for the Ndless files that I named "Ndless" when I tried to install it.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Ashbad on March 19, 2011, 11:43:53 am
how close is Ndless to first stable edition?  Though I'm sure that's its pretty stable now, from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 19, 2011, 12:30:58 pm
The last remaining known issues are the crash when installing from MyLib and the installation popup sometimes not being displayed.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Jonius7 on March 19, 2011, 11:30:13 pm
sorry, everything's ok. and it is working fine!!! nDOOM looks so great!!! The smooth flowing graphics, but i am so bad at it, can't get past the passage leading outside with fireballs or something launching at me.

It's just that nothing else works (blockdude, gbc4nspire)probably because it is for ndless 1.7 i guess.

Thank you so much ExtendeD!
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 20, 2011, 04:29:50 am
I made a special folder for the Ndless files that I named "Ndless" when I tried to install it.

Also make sure to unplug the calculator from the computer before installing Ndless (see the ReadMe file or Scout's tutorial (http://ourl.ca/9712/186483)).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Cuervo on March 20, 2011, 05:00:24 am
Yes, but why? Ndless also installs with the calculator plugged in...


TIA
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 20, 2011, 05:19:17 am
But you may get a better success rate.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 20, 2011, 10:00:52 am
I made a special folder for the Ndless files that I named "Ndless" when I tried to install it.

Also make sure to unplug the calculator from the computer before installing Ndless (see the ReadMe file or Scout's tutorial (http://ourl.ca/9712/186483)).

I made sure to do that as well.

I double-checked everything (Operating system, Ndless version, cable) and tried installing Ndless several times on System 2.x but it freezes up on me every time.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: apcalc on March 20, 2011, 06:28:31 pm
I made a special folder for the Ndless files that I named "Ndless" when I tried to install it.

Also make sure to unplug the calculator from the computer before installing Ndless (see the ReadMe file or Scout's tutorial (http://ourl.ca/9712/186483)).

I made sure to do that as well.

I double-checked everything (Operating system, Ndless version, cable) and tried installing Ndless several times on System 2.x but it freezes up on me every time.

Are you sure that you did not rename the file "ndless_resources.tns".  I remember someone having issues for renaming it in the past.

Also, I have sometimes had random builds of Ndless simply not work for me, but then I went back, recompiled the files (same version) and tried installing again and it worked.  I have no way of explaining this (and the last time I experienced that was before the release of Ndless 1.7), but possibly something like that could be causing the issue?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 22, 2011, 12:21:58 pm
I double-checked ndless_resources.tns. The funny thing is that the 1.7 version works fine, but the 2.0 and 2.1 versions do not work (with their corresponding systems).

I wonder if it has anything to do with when my Nspire was made. I was one of the very first to get one in 2007.

If it's the compilation that's the problem, do you think that if you got the time, could you send me a re-compiled version of Ndless?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 22, 2011, 12:25:32 pm
Mine is also an old one...
Which revision of Ndless 2.0 beta are you trying to use?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on March 22, 2011, 12:32:09 pm
Mine is also an old one...
Which revision of Ndless 2.0 beta are you trying to use?
Idem, works fine.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 22, 2011, 12:59:30 pm
Mine is also an old one...
Which revision of Ndless 2.0 beta are you trying to use?

I'll download the latest revision, give it another shot, and get back to you if it works.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 22, 2011, 01:09:29 pm
I downloaded the latest build of Ndless, fiddled around, and got it to work.

Here's what I noticed that messes up Ndless and causes the installer to freeze with two bars of random pixels at the top of the screen.

1. Ndless is in a folder that has symbols in its name
2. There are other folders within the Ndless folder

Once I fixed this, it installed successfully.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 22, 2011, 01:40:05 pm
I'm glad you found what was wrong.
1) does appear as a condition for a successful installation in the ReadMe file, but I wasn't aware of 2).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: GB on March 23, 2011, 02:09:40 pm
I also forgot to mention that in order for me to get Ndless to work, I had to delete the 1.7 and 2.1 versions from the folder as well (I had all the installers in the same folder for quick access to them when I changed operating systems).

Basically, this problem would be either:
Having Ndless installers for different operating systems in the same directory as the one you're using causes Ndless to crash, or:
Having different files in the same directory as Ndless causes it to crash.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on March 23, 2011, 02:31:05 pm
w00t ?
I guess I hadn't tried yet x)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: mikehill2003 on March 29, 2011, 03:56:35 pm
Is anyone else unable to access http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/ndless.zip ?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on March 29, 2011, 04:52:30 pm
The download also hangs here... broooom?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: mikehill2003 on March 29, 2011, 04:55:47 pm
NVM, I got it to work by going through a proxy.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Munchor on March 29, 2011, 05:00:54 pm
Is anyone else unable to access http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/ndless.zip ?

For now, I can :)

EDIT: No proxy.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on April 01, 2011, 10:39:01 pm
I also forgot to mention that in order for me to get Ndless to work, I had to delete the 1.7 and 2.1 versions from the folder as well (I had all the installers in the same folder for quick access to them when I changed operating systems).

Basically, this problem would be either:
Having Ndless installers for different operating systems in the same directory as the one you're using causes Ndless to crash, or:
Having different files in the same directory as Ndless causes it to crash.
Every time I've installed Ndless except for the first time I have had files in the same folder as it and it still worked. maybe it is only the newest versions that do that
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Sebasu on April 09, 2011, 06:29:54 pm
08/04/2011: TI-Nspire OS 3.0.1.1753 released!
I guess that may have errors but can not run ndless 2.1, an error message appears immediately
Download operating system (CAS): http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Detail?id=6767
ndless 2.1 is a beta version, but now we have the material to start version 3.0, i had the bad luck to download and install the new OS in my handheld to prove it, good appearance and 3D graphing fast and easy, but although i used a total formating of the handheld, previous versións of the OS can't be installed now, nleash is need and with it ndless 3.0, good luck with the project, and everybody be carefull with this new OS, my rechargable batery can't be recognize properly by the handheld, i will wait the answer of TI customer support about this error
good bye!
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on April 10, 2011, 06:56:57 am
Did you miss our news?

By the way, what's ticalc.org doing?
The whole english community has to inform about the downgrade protection, before it's too late...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: JosJuice on April 10, 2011, 07:10:28 am
By the way, what's ticalc.org doing?
The whole english community has to inform about the downgrade protection, before it's too late...
Have you tried sending an email to them? I'm sure they'll inform about 3.0 when they get to know about it... But it's possible that they haven't found 3.0 yet.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on April 10, 2011, 09:00:25 am
By the way, what's ticalc.org doing?
The whole english community has to inform about the downgrade protection, before it's too late...
Have you tried sending an email to them?

No. Anybody wants to do it?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on April 10, 2011, 08:20:15 pm
Should I upgrade to OS 3.0 or not?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on April 10, 2011, 09:37:50 pm
Remove the boot2 update from the 3.0 update file with TNOC (http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1922) and you will can downgrade later if you feel the need to.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on April 10, 2011, 09:44:28 pm
What are the chances of bricking my calculator if I do that. I heard about that happening to some people
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on April 10, 2011, 09:55:27 pm
What are the chances of bricking my calculator if I do that. I heard about that happening to some people
To do what ?? Removing the boot2 update ? There is no chance to break the calc because if the update file is invalid, TI-Nspire Computer Link Software will refuse update.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ruler501 on April 10, 2011, 09:57:25 pm
I mean brick it with the OS
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Levak on April 10, 2011, 10:01:35 pm
I mean brick it with the OS
Ah, ok, you're talking about the OS 2.0.0.1188 incident. One time over 14 updates I've got, and no more than 15 guys for this update. It means that the risk is really really small.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Sebasu on April 11, 2011, 01:57:57 pm
first time that i hear about tnoc, could be possible that with the os 3.0 installed, can i downgrade my os to 2.1 versión???
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: calc84maniac on April 11, 2011, 02:03:08 pm
first time that i hear about tnoc, could be possible that with the os 3.0 installed, can i downgrade my os to 2.1 versión???
Only if you modified the OS with TNOC before sending it to your calculator. In your case, I think the damage has already been done.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 11, 2011, 02:37:41 pm
Welcome on the forums. Sadly if you installed OS 3.0 before modifying its content with TNOC, it's too late. You would have to use this (http://ourl.ca/10147/196556).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Sebasu on April 11, 2011, 02:49:28 pm
i have a question about de .TNC format of the OS files, it can be opened and extracted by 7-zip, it means like a compresed file, 7-zip recognize this files like one of its suported formats of compresion, i mean, ¿which is the compresión format of the .TNC files? i tested TNOC and this program can operate into this compresión format deleting archives, i think that if a .TNC file is modified replacing its boot2.img file with the boot2.img file of an older versión and be instaled in the handheld, it will modify the boot2 sector of the handheld to this older versión, if somebody knows the compresión format please answer my question, is a theory but i would like to try it.

goodbye and thank you for help :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on April 11, 2011, 02:53:42 pm
i have a question about de .TNC format of the OS files, it can be opened and extracted by 7-zip, it means like a compresed file, 7-zip recognize this files like one of its suported formats of compresion, i mean, ¿which is the compresión format of the .TNC files? i tested TNOC and this program can operate into this compresión format deleting archives, i think that if a .TNC file is modified replacing its boot2.img file with the boot2.img file of an older versión and be instaled in the handheld, it will modify the boot2 sector of the handheld to this older versión, if somebody knows the compresión format please answer my question, is a theory but i would like to try it.

goodbye and thank you for help :)


We've allready tried last year.

You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: JosJuice on April 11, 2011, 03:07:58 pm
You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
Is it possible to change the version number, or do we need the RSA keys in order to do that?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: critor on April 11, 2011, 03:14:41 pm
You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
Is it possible to change the version number, or do we need the RSA keys in order to do that?

We need the RSA keys.
It would have been too easy...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 13, 2011, 05:36:15 am
There's a problem in os.h: _SYSCALL invokes _SYSCALL_SWI with 3 arguments, whereas _SYSCALL_SWI actually takes 4 :)

For reference, I'm currently adding the export the 10 zlib functions and 1 zlib variable (zlibCompileFlags) as syscalls, for them to be usable by Ndless programs. And one of those functions, deflateIni2_, takes 8 arguments. Its definition should be along the lines of:
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_SYSCALL(uint32_t, deflateInit2_, z_streamp /* strm */, uint32_t /* level */, uint32_t /* method */, uint32_t /* windowBits */ , uint32_t /* memLevel */, uint32_t /* strategy */, const char * /* version */, uint32_t /* stream_size */)
I haven't fully understood how to use _SYSCALL_ARGS yet.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: mikehill2003 on April 13, 2011, 11:55:22 am
I'm pissed at 2.0 right now because it crashes all my ARM executables on launch like gbc4nspire and NESpire.
Complaining about an OS update that no one forced you to install dosen't help anyone.
That said, can't you just recompile them with the ndless 2 source? It works fine for me.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Lionel Debroux on April 13, 2011, 02:58:47 pm
I think I have solved the problems in os.h that I mentioned three posts above.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 16, 2011, 12:59:53 am
BrownyTCat, change your attitude please. You are being rude to those who devoted lots of time and effort on Ndless. You should be lucky Ndless even exists. Telling developers you're pissed at their new version because it doesn't work for you and yelling at nDoom developers because it doesn't run on 1.7 is certainly not going to gain you a lot of respect in this community. These people deserve more respect from you for even allowing these tools to exist.

Also, these people have a life, so it's inevitable that it will take a long while before every bug are fixed. In fact, I think nDoom project is dead due to lack of time. On a side note, it's remarks like yours that can kill these projects or slow them down in development, in some cases.

I have rated down your post, and I think you should change your manners towards us. Have respect for those who devote time and energy to develop programs for you out of their limited free time.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 12, 2011, 03:45:35 pm
The links no longer work (I believe the server was reformatted or something). Would be nice to get it working again... ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Netham45 on May 13, 2011, 09:06:18 pm
The links no longer work (I believe the server was reformatted or something). Would be nice to get it working again... ;)




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Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 14, 2011, 03:12:05 am
Now I'm getting 404 errors from broooom's server... :'(
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on May 14, 2011, 03:50:43 am
The server seems to be under maintenance (http://ourl.ca/10822/206914).
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 14, 2011, 03:51:58 am
That was 4 days ago, and I thought he would've had the time to fix it...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: broooom on May 14, 2011, 10:32:27 am
So did I, but the server unfortunately crashed again, causing me to lose the buildscript too. I hope I can get it up this evening.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: broooom on May 15, 2011, 06:40:22 am
And the server is up again. Enjoy! :)

One thing I would like to add is that the builds and SDK are now split up.

The latest installer builds can be found at:
http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/ndless.zip
The latest SDK can now be found at:
http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/ndless-sdk.zip
The latest build log can as always be found at:
http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/latest/build.log

The build script can be found at:
http://builds.issrs.biz/ndless/build.sh
For those interested. :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on May 15, 2011, 09:23:40 am
Great!

Would it be possible to add the ReadMe file and Changelog to both archives?
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: broooom on May 15, 2011, 09:32:17 am
Great!

Would it be possible to add the ReadMe file and Changelog to both archives?
Done and rebuilt. :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on May 15, 2011, 09:46:31 am
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 26, 2011, 12:42:12 am
By the way, although you now have a blog for small updates, are you still planning to also post important changes/updates or major discoveries here as well? Some people might forget to check both places and it might be good in case they miss a blog update or something.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on May 26, 2011, 04:28:11 pm
The blog has been set up for small updates and random thoughts for those interested.
Omnimaga remains of course the place for major updates, discussions and support.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Firerouge on June 05, 2011, 04:56:04 am
Servers have been down for about 24 hours now...
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: Broman4 on June 05, 2011, 03:51:57 pm
I've been trying to download Ndless 2.0, still down :(
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 07, 2011, 04:33:50 am
I'm reporting this to extended in case he misses those threads.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: ExtendeD on June 11, 2011, 04:01:03 am
Ndless v2.0 is now available in the Omnimaga download section (http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=598). It should also soon appear in the ticalc.org archives.
Title: Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 11, 2011, 04:14:54 am
Cool to hear. I'll announce it on front page :)