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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2014, 02:16:59 pm »
Well, there's an Haskell compiler for arm if I recall correctly. So it's pretty easy. :P
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2014, 02:25:17 pm »
Nice job but sadly I don't have a Prime

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2014, 04:57:04 pm »
Wait.
So the experience coding with the Prime will be like coding with pre-TI-83 calculators?
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2014, 05:02:05 pm »
The OP is kind of misleading, but it's really C. The coding experience would be comparable to the Casio Prizm.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 05:03:59 pm »
Yeah, C on Prime, now port all the emulators to kill productivity.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2014, 06:38:59 pm »
This is pretty awesome. ;D

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 06:40:11 pm »
By the way I hacked a little in Lionel's code, I have no idea if it works since I have no HP Prime, but feel free to try it and tell me if it works. Pretty much the same installation instructions as in the OP.

Edit: wait where's the attachment? It says it's there but it's not.

Edit2: http://juju2143.ca/foo_20140707_1831.tar.bz2
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2014, 06:43:29 pm »
The OP is kind of misleading, but it's really C. The coding experience would be comparable to the Casio Prizm.
Well, C compiles to some sort of machine code like ASM does and there's no official C compiler dedicated to the Prime, but yeah when ASM is possible on an ARM device, C is automatically possible too.




Also I would try the proof of concept linked in the first post and yours, but I spent $200 with shipping included for that calc and since I often had connectivity problems in the past, I was worried that I could brick my calc or become no longer able to get it detected by my computer. I would rather wait until we have a shell-based example, a way to dual-boot or an OS patch that still provides full official firmware functionalities before taking any risk.
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2014, 06:49:20 pm »
I see, but as they said, you can easily go back in recovery mode and go back to the official OS, but yeah there's still a non-null chance to brick it if you mess up. Probably not worth it considering you spent a lot on it.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2014, 07:53:10 pm »
Oh ok, but I was more worried about if an OS file accidentally erased the recovery mode code or something, if that's even possible at all.
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2014, 12:40:08 am »
Oh ok, but I was more worried about if an OS file accidentally erased the recovery mode code or something, if that's even possible at all.
I'll just quote the HP Museum thread:
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does the firmware utility always recover the calculator to the "upload" mode?
Holding Symb before and after releasing the Reset button should always be able to recover the calculator, indeed. That is, unless one destroyed the area where the contents of BXCBOOT0.BIN are stored, triggering intentional bricking.
So yeah either you failed bad time with putting the elf in the OS upgrade file so BXCBOOT0.BIN corrupted or said elf messed up with said area where the contents of BXCBOOT0.BIN are stored. Either way, you messed up badly in a specific way if you manage to brick your calc. But normally (someone should confirm it), you should be safe.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2014, 12:41:53 am »
Ah right, so that's the area we must not touch. Beware, ASM/C coders :P
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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2014, 01:28:44 am »
@Juju if you can use GCC you have asm readily available. You can even inline it in C code if you want, or you can do pure asm programs.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2014, 01:33:45 am »
@Juju if you can use GCC you have asm readily available. You can even inline it in C code if you want, or you can do pure asm programs.
That is true. There is no C without asm, but the opposite is not always true. ARM processors should always support C.

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Re: ASM arrives on the HP Prime!
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2014, 07:03:14 pm »
Agreed. Modern ARM is basically built to run Linux and C.