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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on April 15, 2010, 03:13:56 am
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Tonight, BrandonW has finally did what Texas Instruments should have been doing since the release of OS 2.53MP rather than trying to hinder 3rd-party Nspire developers (http://tibank.forumactif.com/evenements-f16/ti-met-en-demeure-ti-bank-t5291.htm): fix the new TI-84 Plus OS 2.53MP bugs so it runs programs like xLIB correctly. His edit of the OS is currently avaliable on his website and with his permission, we are providing the link (http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/84PlusOS_2.53_fixed.8xu) to it. To prevent issues, we have decided to not host a copy of the file ourselves.
Keep in mind that BrandonW will take this link down as soon as TI fixes those issues themselves (if that ever happens at all).
More information about this patch such as what exactly was fixed can be found at http://www.brandonw.net .
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Brandonw, that's an awesome post on your site. :) I'm glad you've fixed these bugs. I really hope TI notices and fixes their own OS. ;D
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And, to think, my complaining did this...
I should complain more.
:D
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That was the Right Thing to do, absolutely.
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Bravo :).
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yeah I was happy to see this ^^
Now I hope if TI ever sends him a DMCA notice and that he loses (for some reasons I kinda doubt it) that they'll have the courtesy to at least fix their crap themselves
I forgot to ask him, though: does this includes the PTT patch?
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Does this only increase compatability with xLIB, or does it fix all incompatibilities.
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This doesn't include the Press-to-Test patch; this ONLY fixes the bug that causes xLIB incompatibility.
If there are other bugs or issues you'd like to see fixed, by all means, please let me know! I would really love to dig into this OS and get it straightened out once and for all.
Just let me know what the issue is and how to very easily duplicate it and I'll dig into it. Via IRC would be best since I can go back-and-forth with you on it.
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Well, of what I know, there are also incompatibilities with CalcUtil and OmniCalc. I actually run 2.43. If you can give me a ROM image of 2.53MP, I'll test stuff for you.
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There's a separate thread on United TI about the many Omnicalc problems. OS 2.53MP to some extent was an attempt to obsolete some Omnicalc features, like parentheses assistant, and Omnicalc deals with a lot of OS integration which 2.53MP would surely break. It's not so much the OS' fault.
Has CalcUtil been tested with the updated 8XU? If so and there's still a problem, what exactly is the issue? What could easily be done to duplicate it?
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Well, of what I know, there are also incompatibilities with CalcUtil and OmniCalc. I actually run 2.43. If you can give me a ROM image of 2.53MP, I'll test stuff for you.
TilEm accepts OS transfer during emulation. You can easily 'upgrade' your rom file that way. Not sure about Wabbit, though.
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Great work Brandon!!!
Now let's try to guess how many months it will take TI to fix that...
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Nice! Community 9001 : TI 0 :)
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As written on IRC, very nice work, and screw TI :)
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lol, nicely done Brandon! I am quite eager to see TI's reaction to this, hopefully they won't be jerks about things and actually fix it, or even better, hire you, since you seem to be more intelligent then their entire programming team that works on the 84+ os. XD
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TI seems fully capable of programming its OS's. The things about the OS's that are bad are things that us programmers use. I view that as just another PTT, a (futile) attempt by TI to undermine the programming community.
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Will the current PTT patch work with that OS or would it be better to not take any chance?
And lol tifreak8x it would actually be funny if they eventually hired Brandon as programmer. Once and for all the OSes we would get would finally have all their bugs (http://ourl.ca/3687) fixed or maybe run faster :P and maybe if TI listened to him their OSes would finally have features the community wants
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Great work, Brandon! Glad to see this got fixed :) I agree with tifreak and DJ, would be interesting (but very good) if TI hired you :P
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Will the current PTT patch work with that OS or would it be better to not take any chance?
And lol tifreak8x it would actually be funny if they eventually hired Brandon as programmer. Once and for all the OSes we would get would finally have all their bugs (http://ourl.ca/3687) fixed or maybe run faster :P and maybe if TI listened to him their OSes would finally have features the community wants
Press-to-Test patches should work fine. By design, this 8XU has very few changes from the official TI-OS -- the point I want to make is that this is in no way malicious. It literally only fixes their bugs and nothing else.
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ok thanks for the info. And yeah I understand your goal. Now I hope TI awnsers our wishes and fix those bugs next release or won't bother you.
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lol, nicely done Brandon! I am quite eager to see TI's reaction to this, hopefully they won't be jerks about things and actually fix it, or even better, hire you, since you seem to be more intelligent then their entire programming team that works on the 84+ os. XD
lol, That would be awesome! ;D
I have two minor gripes with the New OS that I don't think can be resolved (in basic):
The flag for displaying "Done" and the flag that erases the line of pixels below text in small font can no longer be changed. Are these OS glitches, or does TI just hate letting Basic programmers manipulating these flags? :)
Thanks! :D
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I wonder if BrandonW could actually fix those... and maybe also the errors with inverted text (see news article regarding the new OS)
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Oh, right! I forgot about that one. Is that one fixable as well? :D
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Knowing BrandonW I am certain it could be done, but I wonder how easy it would be.
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Depends on the changes.
In the past there weren't programmers of the community offering to work to TI without answer or with negative answer? (Michael Vincent?)
I doubt, but it would be really cool. But (maybe?) Brandon would have to face divergence on most decisions by the boss. >:(
Working full time will make Brandon free all its projects. :D
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lol. On a side note, Critor from TI-BANK has uploaded a IPS patch for OS 2.53 made with BrandonW modified copy. I heard it appears to patch fine so if TI gets BrandonW to take his OS copy down, then we could post this in our download section too since TI can't do anything about an IPS patch that doesn't contain a single line of code from them.
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=1784
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lol, it took me 2 times to get the new os transferred to my TI 84.
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Hey, I just thought of something else that could be fixed... imaginary numbers being integrated into the fraction symbol, so it doesn't give you a data type error... (Right now, its really annoying, because you can't just use >Frac with complex numbers...)
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That's true, maybe I should send an email to him about that.
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That's harder than you think it is. Did that exist in previous versions?
I doubt that that 'bug' can be fixed using only patching.
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BrandonW also told me that fixing the inverted text glitches would be very hard, because of the way the homescreen was programmed. In fact, the glitch happens to be a bugfix to an actual glitch BASIC programmers were exploiting without knowing before.