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Title: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2011, 01:50:15 am
We are sorry to announce that Builderboy has been demoted from his Omnimaga manager status, to return to his original Coders of Tomorrow one.

The reason for this was due to him no longer doing administrative tasks anymore on the forums, not being active enough anymore to be manager and also due to the violation of an Omnimaga Manager group rule forcing all managers to check their forum inbox everytime they login and reply to important administrator discussions (to participate or to let them know the PM was read), which happened three times in 2011, despite warnings.

We are sorry to have to do this and we hope that his activity towards calculator programming and the forums will return to its level from a few months ago or last summer.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Juju on June 25, 2011, 01:59:30 am
What are you doing Builderboy? Y u no answer?

We need a valid reason. Until then, we'll miss you :(
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 25, 2011, 02:25:32 am
That sucks. Like, seriously. Builder's one of the greatest guys I know on the intarwebs. Hopefully he shows up :P
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2011, 02:36:15 am
Indeed. I hope he returns. I kinda wish he checked his admin PMs sometimes too so that wouldn't happen. Most of the time when we had important discussions we had to fight to get him to check, most of the time Eeems bugging him over Facebook or e-mail for a day or two until he does.

The weird thing is that this happened even when he wasn't busy, like when he averaged at 20 posts a day for a while in March or April, and he told me he had PM notifications enabled. ??? But sadly rules are rules, and it kinda got frustrating to have to wait days and days to get admin stuff done, since to do important actions such as tonight, it required most admins approval or a majority. :/
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: shmibs on June 25, 2011, 03:39:27 am
D= that's sad
well, regardless, we all still love you, builder! i can't wait to see nightmare/portal progress or whatever other crazy things you may be planning.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Munchor on June 25, 2011, 07:41:53 am
Where is BuilderBoy? I seriously hope he's working on his Axe Entry 24/7, but if he was, then he should get sometime to come here :) I hope he's alright and that he can come back soon :) Until there and as someone said, we will miss you :)
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: fb39ca4 on June 25, 2011, 07:57:09 am
That's :( I wish he was just working on his axe contest program all the time but I somehow doubt that. I wish you luck with anything you have to deal with in your life.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: TIfanx1999 on June 25, 2011, 09:29:48 am
Ah, what a shame. Life happens though, and people get busy. Hopefully he'll return and be more active once again. =)
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: yunhua98 on June 25, 2011, 09:40:50 am
I haven't seen BBoy around much lately.  I hope it goes well.  :(
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: ztrumpet on June 25, 2011, 11:00:43 am
Builder, I miss you as a co-admin already.  Where are you? :'(

Edit: That being said, I still stand by our decision.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Michael_Lee on June 25, 2011, 11:28:29 am
Aw, I hope he doesn't disappear...
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Hot_Dog on June 26, 2011, 11:28:47 am
I will miss him as an administrator too, and if he is able to do all the work again, I for one will welcome him back with open arms.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 27, 2011, 03:34:31 pm
Aw, I hope he doesn't disappear...
Well to be honest, given what I heard via PM about his job, I am afraid in two weeks we might even see a news stating his demotion from CoT and removal of Portal X sub-forum, because seeing his activity right now since he got his job, I have serious doubts he'll ever post enough to remain staff. What I worry more, though, is that when people get so busy for an extended period of time, they also lose interest over time, so I get worried it might be a goodbye to Builderboy.

As for if he remained around, though, I doubt he could ever become admin again, due to what happened. Maybe in one year or two, but otherwise I don't know.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 27, 2011, 03:59:50 pm
NO WHAT ARE YOU EVEN THINKING REMOVING PORTAL X SUBFORUMS ><
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: yunhua98 on June 27, 2011, 09:22:55 pm
at least keep it in Major community projects...
also, do Admins have different posting requirements from COTs?
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 27, 2011, 09:28:41 pm
It's the same, but if they just keep at the 10 posts limit the entire time and never do anything, they can be downgraded. They also need to keep up with their private messages more. Technically, staff have to, too, but they usually get fewer important administration-related e-mails. And yeah I will probably keep the projects in major community projects unless it has been half a year or something with no sign of life.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: BrownyTCat on June 27, 2011, 11:46:13 pm
Lots of demotions lately...
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: ruler501 on June 28, 2011, 12:13:37 am
Lots of demotions lately...
This is very sad
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2011, 12:36:58 am
Well technically there were only two recent ones, one being in the last 30 days (Builderboy), but in some ways Hot Dog has diminshed activity now too, and a bunch of people have left due to being busy, so it's like if a bunch of people were no longer part of the site. There were some new people added to the team though. I just hope people are just busy or in vacation and that it's not another community collapse starting like half a decade ago. X.x
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Darl181 on June 28, 2011, 12:46:59 am
/me hopes it's just summer activities/jobs and not a bunch of ppl moving on to other things...
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2011, 12:51:12 am
Yeah the latter would suck, and I personally wouldn't understand why this would happen, because in the last month there was no drama anywhere here and when we had any we didn't lose people much, plus there are so many new discoveries being done. That said Builderboy being gone will definitively have an impact, because he was a big source of inspiration for many projects here.

I considered opening new spots for the coders of tomorrow team lately, for those interested in joining the team or helping on the site, as we already have done our promotion run through the anti-riot squad usergroup. However one worry I had is that several of the people that I trust and are good programmers tend to have issues with parents restricting their computer usage. An example is that last year JustCause applied for staff, but we had to reject his application because he is not active during Summer. :(
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Darl181 on June 28, 2011, 01:00:07 am
Yeah, it seems like a seasonal thing imo, but I've been here for about a year so idk
Still hoping people come back.

Hmm I might apply if the opportunity comes up...
Tho I don't quite remember the requirements (always have a project on the table and have something like 20 posts a month iirc?) and I'm not sure if I'd be accepted due to history :P

Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: BrownyTCat on June 28, 2011, 01:00:36 am
Looks like Portal X is doomed...
and I'm not sure if I'd be accepted due to history :P
At least you aren't me.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 28, 2011, 01:02:25 am
I would love to be on the coders of tomorrow ^^ But I probably don't have a chance :P
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: BrownyTCat on June 28, 2011, 01:03:04 am
I would love to be on the coders of tomorrow ^^ But I probably don't have a chance :P
Nobody has a lower chance than me. That's not physically possible.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Darl181 on June 28, 2011, 01:04:21 am
I would love to be on the coders of tomorrow ^^ But I probably don't have a chance :P
Nobody has a lower chance than me. That's not physically possible.
Hmm, "BOB!" ?  Not only was he..well..yeah.. but he's banned (http://ourl.ca/9597/193540) :P
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2011, 01:26:18 am
Yeah, it seems like a seasonal thing imo, but I've been here for about a year so idk
Still hoping people come back.

Hmm I might apply if the opportunity comes up...
Tho I don't quite remember the requirements (always have a project on the table and have something like 20 posts a month iirc?) and I'm not sure if I'd be accepted due to history :P


Well the issue is that last year this time of the year was the most active and the next few weeks along with May were the least active, but this year it seems like the opposite or something.

As for you you would probably have chances, providing your parents aren't sometimes grounding you from any calc site/programming for months. As for past history I do not see anything recent that could prevent you from being accepted.

Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 28, 2011, 01:59:16 am
Lol I got banned twice ^^
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2011, 02:05:49 am
Yeah.

One thing to note about the hiring rule regarding bad behavior is that it also depends of how bad the bad behavior incident was and if major improvement occured. An example is that Darl got warned one year ago for some rude posts, and it never happened again. In your case, the bans occured because of the nDoom policy. Outside it you would've gotten away with warnings.

Of course, however, if I notice that somebody tends to be too spammy, nitpicks on every single thing or likes to mess around with people and doesn't know when to stop before they get mad, such person may not be trusted as much, as this would give a bad image to Omnimaga website (an image of calc forum that encourages spam or overly messing around with people, which can turn some people away). Also we try to make sure the people who are added to the team maintains a certain level of spelling and grammar quality, so it looks more professional. We didn't have many problems with the latter, though.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 28, 2011, 02:14:50 am
Lol does that mean I still have a chance at becoming a CoT?
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2011, 02:17:40 am
You would. You would just need to make sure to be careful to not repeat the things that got you banned too much. There's also that posting activity policy, but given your activity, I doubt this would be a problem.

Btw certain CoT got banned a few times before too. I think one or two even got banned during the nDoom policy, but most bans lasted about 30 minutes. However if we notice for example that one of them trolls all the time or mess with people/disrupts convos they can even get demoted. I personally wouldn't see the point of having fun at other ppl expenses, though.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Darl181 on June 29, 2011, 08:14:55 pm
And now he's a normal member... :(
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 29, 2011, 10:33:05 pm
Yeah. I had a discussion with him and he pretty much did the exact same thing during the entire discussion (not bothering to respond and not seeming to care anymore), which pissed me off. However now he works 10 hours a day, 60 hours a week, and given that he did not even come to post one single day in the week, it is clear that we won't see anything from him again in the near future.

I think somebody like leafiness or another person willing to do a game with physics should probably try to request the source of Portal from him so maybe it can be finished. I left the sub-forums in the major TI projects section, in case.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: shmibs on June 29, 2011, 10:39:03 pm
if he's willing to hand it over we could always make it a sort of group project. i'd love to see that source =D
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 29, 2011, 10:43:59 pm
Yeah it would be cool. The issue is that given how things went between us (and due to what happeend in the past 2 months) I'm not sure if he will remain around afterward, and normally, in the first place, when somebody is prevented from having any free time for 2-3 months like what is gonna happen to him, he eventually loses interest in his hobbies, as he got used to not having access to them, then afterward he moves on. I saw this happen with Simplethinker and a few others.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: leafy on June 30, 2011, 12:03:45 am
However now he works 10 hours a day, 6 hours a week

First of all, lol at that error. Anyways, I don't think Builder is unwilling to talk to you, it's just that he has more pressing matters on his hands. I know he's a busy guy, but that doesn't mean he lost interest in Portal X or his contest entry, because I don't think he would do something like that ><
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: fb39ca4 on June 30, 2011, 12:51:45 am
Yeah it would be cool. The issue is that given how things went between us (and due to what happeend in the past 2 months) I'm not sure if he will remain around afterward, and normally, in the first place, when somebody is prevented from having any free time for 2-3 months like what is gonna happen to him, he eventually loses interest in his hobbies, as he got used to not having access to them, then afterward he moves on. I saw this happen with Simplethinker and a few others.
When I was gone for a month just now, I felt like that. If I had not decided to come back when I did, I probably never would have come back.
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 30, 2011, 01:40:06 am
However now he works 10 hours a day, 6 hours a week

First of all, lol at that error. Anyways, I don't think Builder is unwilling to talk to you, it's just that he has more pressing matters on his hands. I know he's a busy guy, but that doesn't mean he lost interest in Portal X or his contest entry, because I don't think he would do something like that ><
Sorry I meant 60 hours.

Yeah it would be cool. The issue is that given how things went between us (and due to what happeend in the past 2 months) I'm not sure if he will remain around afterward, and normally, in the first place, when somebody is prevented from having any free time for 2-3 months like what is gonna happen to him, he eventually loses interest in his hobbies, as he got used to not having access to them, then afterward he moves on. I saw this happen with Simplethinker and a few others.
When I was gone for a month just now, I felt like that. If I had not decided to come back when I did, I probably never would have come back.
Yeah sometimes I kinda feel that way. I did not leave or anything, but a few months ago I felt sick or down sometimes and slacked down in posting, but when I stopped having life issues, I didn't feel interested as much for posting as I used to, same for calc stuff. Also I had something similar happening when I lost net access for 5 months in 2007. I coded more, but when I returned I didn't feel as interested in posting, for some reasons, although it wasn't a problem to post a bit, since the forums averaged at 2 posts a day when i returned O.O
Title: Re: Builderboy demoted from Manager
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 30, 2011, 12:51:00 pm
NO WHAT ARE YOU EVEN THINKING REMOVING PORTAL X SUBFORUMS ><

Hope he still plans on finishing that D: It's one of those projects that I'm really, really looking forward to playing someday.

However now he works 10 hours a day, 60 hours a week,

I guess some things do turn out to be more pressing than calc stuff :( Hope you come back soon Builderboy.