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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2011, 01:18:34 am »
With 16 bit color the Prizm will need a lot more memory than it already has. Perhaps Casio might even add more memory in later models of the Prizm just as TI did with the 83 line.  (Yeah 50th post   ;D ;D ;D)
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2011, 02:32:20 am »
I'm fairly certain there's something besides the 61 KB of user RAM that is used for the screen. I wouldn't be surprised if the calc actually had 256 or 512 KB of RAM or something. For sound, on the 83+ it's ran from flash. Not sure about the 9860G.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2011, 06:01:37 am »
I hope it will have more. The fx 9860G has 256KB RAM and the fx 9860G SD has 512KB.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2011, 06:51:30 pm »
Nice. One big worry I have with the Prizm for BASIC programmers is how large are picture files, if it still supports them at all. It will suck if a pic has to be stored in RAM to be used and if it took the entire user RAM. On the 83+, a 96x64 monochrome picture file is 779 KB large and a 96x63 one 767 (12 bytes per row of pixel plus the name)

That said, maybe if people manage to crack the Prizm, they'll write an ASM utility that adds a BASIC command that allows BASIC programs to move files from RAM to storage memory or vice-versa, to allow BASIC programmers to work with larger files easier.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2011, 07:04:10 pm »
Well, Casio does have support for pictures in BASIC, so we can only hope. It'll probably come up while I wikify Casio-BASIC.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2011, 07:06:02 pm »
It does on the Prizm too?

I know it did on older calcs, but I am concerned about the size of the files on the Prizm due to the resolution and having 8 colors O.O

Also, on older calcs, I remember pictures were like 2 or 4 KB large. It seemed less compressed than TI pics.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2011, 07:14:00 pm »
Yep:

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StoPict <area of picture>..............area: 1 to 20 
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RclPict <area of picture>...............area: 1 to 20
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2011, 07:51:32 pm »
Good to hear. I wonder if FinaleTI or z80man could check how large they are, although I don't think this the thread for that, lol :P
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2011, 04:45:19 am »
Hello,
I created new version of the multimedia player. It supports old formats (of my older players) and also video with audio (movies).
I improved the audio part, it has much cleaner sound and intrusion is away.
Download it at http://martin.poupe.org/casio/, sample video with audio attached.

Martin
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2011, 09:08:32 pm »
great! Audio+video together? :O

I wonder if with some modifications for the screen code it could run on the Casio Prizm too?
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2011, 11:57:09 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 20, 2011, 09:08:32 pm
I wonder if with some modifications for the screen code it could run on the Casio Prizm too?
Audio part definitely, the video part may be problem, because each frame has much more data. Profiling would be needed.
But now I am at the Step 0 "obtain the CASIO Prizm cg20". :-(
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2011, 01:28:49 pm »
Me too... :-(
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2011, 02:32:53 am »
Quote from: MPoupe on January 21, 2011, 11:57:09 am
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 20, 2011, 09:08:32 pm
I wonder if with some modifications for the screen code it could run on the Casio Prizm too?
Audio part definitely, the video part may be problem, because each frame has much more data. Profiling would be needed.
But now I am at the Step 0 "obtain the CASIO Prizm cg20". :-(
One thing I thought would be to use scaled up low resolution. For example, on the TI-Nspire, in TI-84 Plus emulation mode, the 96x64 resolution is scaled up by 3 times I think to fill most of the screen. In such scaled up resolution you need to fill more pixels on the screen, but there's much less data storage needed.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2011, 05:21:08 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 23, 2011, 02:32:53 am
One thing I thought would be to use scaled up low resolution.
Yes, and palette would save another 50% - 75% data storage.
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Re: Casio fx-9860G video player
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2011, 07:40:18 pm »
Yep. Personally I don't think on such small screen it would be a big problem. I can barely see one pixel because they're so small. Here are some compression examples. I don't know if they would be possible/easy to implement, though. I do not know the Prizm pixel storage format.
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