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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2010, 06:19:14 pm »
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2010, 06:25:51 pm »
Casio Prizm!!!

The TI-Nspire killer is born...
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2010, 06:26:33 pm »
That might not be a good thing. We probably still feel pretty attached to TI now...




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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2010, 06:30:07 pm »
I think TI is just now remembering why its a good idea to put features into your calculator.

And this actually can have an effect on our beloved TI calculator.  If TI stops being the sole producer of calculators, maybe they will start to actually put some quality into them.

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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2010, 06:39:42 pm »
That might not be a good thing. We probably still feel pretty attached to TI now...

But TI doesn't  feel attached to us...

In the 90s, Casio graphic calculators used to be just crap...
A limited programming language that could not even use the calc applications fully... exactly like on the TI-Nspire!!! You could do less things with the programming language, than with the OS... And on TI graphic calculators, you could then do more things with the programming language than with the OS...

But, since 2000, Casio graphic calculators have completly changed and become much better.
Casio has even released emulators and SDK for their best calculators (fx-9860G/GII family, ClassPad 3XX). Where is the SDK for the TI-Nspire ? . . .

Things are changing. Casio is TI, and TI is Casio.

It is perfectly possible for the Casio Prizm to be more programmable than the TI-Nspire, and to support assembly apps through a SDK.


TI has just released the TI-Nspire TouchPad, with allmost nothing new... A rechargeable 100hours battery that isn't even included in the box, and a touchpad... What's so impressive about a touchpad? A touchscreen would have been better...

The Casio Prizm use standard betteries, and has a 140 hours autonomy!

TI has had big problems with TI-Nspire TouchPad stocks ...

Also the color has been included in the TI-Nspire 2.x softwares, I'm pretty sure TI just cannot release another calculator in the next months.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2010, 06:42:02 pm »
for those of you who don't want to look up all the programming specifications, here's what i've managed to get together from reading the downloadable pdf.


... the programming editor has a find function.
also, editing on the computer is made simple. you can convert program files to .txt files on the calculator and send them to the computer to open up in notepad, edit them there, and then when you send the txt file back to the calculator? it's automatically converted to a file the calculator can read.
there are pxl/pt/line/circle commands. there's also a "setcolor" command which i presume sets the color that everything is drawn in.
there are a TON of string commands... if you're going to store data this is probably preferred... there are string rotation commands, shift commands, to upper/lowercase, concatenation, substring (naturally).


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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2010, 06:43:42 pm »
to sum it up, Casio is basically trying to convert us after they heard about our complaints about TI.  :P
I really want to see what Ti is going to do about this.  ;D

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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2010, 06:52:30 pm »
to sum it up, Casio is basically trying to convert us after they heard about our complaints about TI.  :P
I really want to see what Ti is going to do about this.  ;D

If the Casio Prizm is really released in january 2011, they cannot do anything...
They've just released the TouchPad and advertised it everywhere, although it is hardware-identic to the ClickPad, with allmost nothing new. Not even a bigger Flash-chip, despite the fact we're having problems installing the latest 9Mb OS (which requires more than twice its size during installation, because it uses a temporary file and decompresses some things too...)

It's perfectly clear they have nothing else in the box...
Releasing a new TI-Nspire-like calculator in the next months would cost a lot of money...

And you should all have understood since 2006, that TI doesn't want to spend money on hardware-calculators any more... (exactly like HP)

So, the TI-Nspire TouchPad are dead!

TI-Nspire TouchPad
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R.I.P.

I won't regret them, sincerely. :P

With TI, calculators are going worse and worse...
With Casio, calculators are going better and better!
TI is not the best any more...
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2010, 06:55:56 pm »
only bad thing is if TI doesn't do much better, we're all going to have to switch, and it such a shame with all those great TI games...  :(

and we better hope Casio doesn't go the way of TI if it gains more market share.

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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2010, 07:04:34 pm »
idk guys... WE may know that the casio prizm is a million times better than the nspire. but if you're a student and your requirement when getting a grapher is "it can graph equations and my teacher accepts it", the calculator that's still flourishing is the ti 83 series. our teachers still request students get ti 83/84+'s. i have yet to see an nSpire at my school. the marketshare is still firmly in Ti's hands, and a new calculator will not change that. the only way casio's prizm gets attention is if the teacher's bother to learn how to use it, realize its potential, and then start mentioning them in class. then a student buys one.. his friends see it, and hopefully the product sells itself from that point. it is a great starting point though, that casio has released this (:


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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2010, 07:15:18 pm »
idk guys... WE may know that the casio prizm is a million times better than the nspire. but if you're a student and your requirement when getting a grapher is "it can graph equations and my teacher accepts it", the calculator that's still flourishing is the ti 83 series. our teachers still request students get ti 83/84+'s. i have yet to see an nSpire at my school. the marketshare is still firmly in Ti's hands, and a new calculator will not change that. the only way casio's prizm gets attention is if the teacher's bother to learn how to use it, realize its potential, and then start mentioning them in class. then a student buys one.. his friends see it, and hopefully the product sells itself from that point. it is a great starting point though, that casio has released this (:

I didn't say TI was dead... I just said TI-Nspire were dead.

Just compare things which are sold at similar prices.

You may hesitate between a TI-83+/84+ and a Casio fx-9860G/GII for example...
You may choose the TI-83+/84+ for some good reasons: more widely used, much more programs and applications available, more programmable, more assembly support...
And you may choose the Casio fx-9860G/GII for other good reasons: SD card reader, bigger high contrast screen with a greater resolution, TI-85/86-like menus, a much more recent and faster CPU, more than 32Kb RAM, home screen menu with icons...

But now, let's compare the TI-Nspire and the Casio Prizm... What good things can you say about the TI-Nspire?
...
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Casio will not become the best graphic calculator seller... But Casio may become the best formal/symbolic graphic calculator seller.
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2010, 07:19:39 pm »
ok, cool, that makes me feel better, since the 84 series is still my favorite.  ;)

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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2010, 08:36:00 pm »
only bad thing is if TI doesn't do much better, we're all going to have to switch, and it such a shame with all those great TI games...  :(

and we better hope Casio doesn't go the way of TI if it gains more market share.

I'm almost certain that you could build a TI-83+/84+ emulator in the calculator. From what I know of it, Casio's native programming language is almost identical to TI-BASIC and since the User's guide for the calculator (http://edu.casio.com/products/cg_series/data/fxcg10_20_E.pdf) has a chapter on programming the calculator, I'm assuming that they're making it community friendly.

EDIT: I wish TI-BASIC had half of these functions. You can actually Read lock the source code on the calculator!
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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2010, 08:44:40 pm »
I doubt the 83+/84+ will die, unless the new calc is as cheap as the 84+.

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Re: Casio Prizm - Color graphic calculator
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2010, 08:50:41 pm »
It's going to be sold for $129.00 USD, which isn't too far off from the 84+ and about equivalent to the 84+ SE. But TI is discontinuing the whole line, so the Casio Prizm will be competing only with the nSpire and it is a few dollars cheaper than it. That's ignoring the obvious discrepancy in features between the Prizm and the nSpire.
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