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Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: solitaire710 on December 21, 2005, 06:44:00 pm
FastRPL is here!
For those of you who don't know, FastRPL is an extremely fast interpreted language which allows on-calc programming and is for the TI-83+/84+ series.
FastRPL gets its fast speed from the use of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_LISP and http://fastrpl.info/fastrpl_tut/FastRPLtut9.html http://fastrpl.info/fastrpl_tut/FastRPLtut10.html functions all of which point to the fact that its best suited for game programming. Heres some of the screens, and remember this is on a z80 ;)wink.gif

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Wow......Check out the english tranlation of the site below, though I believe the tutorial are still in french-
http://fastrpl.info/english/

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Enjoy!
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: necro on December 21, 2005, 07:20:00 pm
now, if only I could read more than the front page...
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Ranman on December 21, 2005, 07:42:00 pm
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Oh my goodnes... That's crazy fast!

I can't wait to see what comes of this :woot:woot.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on December 21, 2005, 10:34:00 pm
My first impression: OMG thats creepy fast!
Second impression: Jeez, if the rest of the site was in english, we could all understand more...

Anyone cares to translate? :Pblah.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on December 22, 2005, 12:23:00 am
As soon as I can understand what the download page says, I will learn this language! >Dgni.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tifreak on December 22, 2005, 02:07:00 am
Wy don't you use Google's page translator?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on December 22, 2005, 02:23:00 am
QuoteBegin-tifreak8x+22 December 2005, 14:07-->
QUOTE (tifreak8x @ 22 December 2005, 14:07)
Wy don't you use Google's page translator?  

 because most of the time it doesn
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on December 22, 2005, 03:59:00 am
It can give you a general idea of what its talking about, but usually it doens't make any sense right away.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tifreak on December 22, 2005, 06:01:00 am
And at that point, you can always make it make sense, write it down, and get permission from them to post it, or let them have the copy... :)smile.gif

Umm, I am looking at the tutorials, they make sense to me, and I didn't even translate the page...  :ru13z:king2.gif

http://fastrpl.info/english/fastrpl_tut/fastrpl_tuto.html
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: necro on December 22, 2005, 09:03:00 am
Why are only some of the tutorials in english?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on December 22, 2005, 09:07:00 am
The download page isn't English :angry:mad.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Liazon on December 22, 2005, 10:27:00 am
That's really awesome for a non ASM language!
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on December 22, 2005, 10:41:00 am
@ RadicalPi:  I believe it says (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is a beta version and there is always to be some bugs expected.  Therefore, you should backup all of your files before using it.  Click on "T
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 22, 2005, 01:46:00 pm
very cool I got confused by the syntax, RPN seemed to hate me a bit as well as stack stuff, but I might look at it again (and add to archives) once I get more free time in the next few weeks. :)smile.gif

Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: dragon__lance on December 23, 2005, 08:37:00 am
wicked!!!! this i will definetly look at!
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on December 23, 2005, 08:50:00 am
*sighs* well, I can wait till it
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on December 23, 2005, 09:24:00 am
I just now downloaded it...

Looks cool! Now If I could understand it... *cough* *tutorial* *cough*
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: +ZERO+ on December 23, 2005, 09:44:00 am
I need a tutorial for this thing... I keep getting an "error on line 7."

Too confusing...

Rock Out
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Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on December 23, 2005, 10:26:00 am
For some reason, TilEm doesn't seem to support it.  Guess I'll actually have to try something on my calc (shudders).
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on December 23, 2005, 10:50:00 am
They specifically said you don't have to worry about crashing.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Liazon on December 23, 2005, 11:55:00 am
If Basic alternatives such as FastRPL exist, why hasn't Basic been replaced as the most widely used Ti-Calc programming language?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tifreak on December 23, 2005, 12:10:00 pm
QuoteBegin-Spellshaper+23 December 2005, 15:24-->
QUOTE (Spellshaper @ 23 December 2005, 15:24)
I just now downloaded it...

Looks cool! Now If I could understand it... *cough* *tutorial* *cough*  

 If I didn't already have 1500 things to do, I would see about havin it translated and made to be understandable... And of course hostin it on my site. :Dbiggrin.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on December 23, 2005, 12:43:00 pm
QuoteBegin-calcul831415+23 December 2005, 17:55-->
QUOTE (calcul831415 @ 23 December 2005, 17:55)
If Basic alternatives such as FastRPL exist, why hasn't Basic been replaced as the most widely used Ti-Calc programming language?  

 Because TI-Basic is standard on calcs so it is easier for non-hard core programmers to use because it can be done on calc and is also the easiest one to learn and use and is the one with the most tutorials.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 23, 2005, 01:58:00 pm
also fast RPL is limited in game size I think (RAM), in BASIC you can split files to fit them in archive memory and run them from here  
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on December 24, 2005, 03:11:00 pm
QUOTE
The RPL programming language (RPL meaning Reverse Polish LISP or, alternatively, ROM-based procedural language) is a handheld calculator system and application programming language used on Hewlett-Packard's engineering graphing RPN calculators of the HP-28, HP-48 and HP-49 series.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 24, 2005, 03:29:00 pm
i am wondering if this would make porting games from TI to  HP easier?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: KermMartian on December 27, 2005, 04:01:00 am
Could be.  I'm thinking strongly of adding frpl support to DCS6...
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Post by: arti on December 27, 2005, 09:16:00 am
Is FastRPL what MLC tried to be? Is MLC still alive, or is it an abandoned project?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 27, 2005, 10:00:00 am
FastRPL is a RPN based language for the 83+. MLC was supposed to be another language but for all calcs (evewn Casio and HP) but its dead. Only the 86 version is still being developped as well as AFX version but very slowly.

@Kerm nice, too bad DCS doesnt have MOS support it would have been the universal shell for running all existing games since Mirage doesnt run Fast RPL games yet. Only problem is that FastRPL is interpreted so you would have to include it in DCS or make RPL programs show in DCS and auto run FastRPL and the game when selected from DCS, but I dunno if it would be doable. Maybe it would be buggy
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on January 06, 2006, 11:02:00 am
anyone tackle frpl yet?
if so, results?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on January 06, 2006, 11:59:00 am
I couldn't get it to work on VTI so I gave up
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tifreak on January 06, 2006, 12:19:00 pm
Once I get some of these things completed for my site and projects, I will tackle some of it. This might be a few weeks though...
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on January 06, 2006, 12:27:00 pm
I don't want to see this die out, because it has so much potential.  (I'm sure that's been said about plenty of trans-calc languages.) So I may randomly post here every couple weeks to check on progress ;)wink.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Liazon on January 06, 2006, 12:40:00 pm
So does FastRPL run the risk of crashes?  and it's probably not for on-calc, rite?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on January 06, 2006, 12:44:00 pm
They said no crashes, and you HAD to do it on-calc.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: dragon__lance on January 06, 2006, 02:13:00 pm
i tried fastRPL a little and played the games made for it. Seems to work quite fast and is very impressive. One thing i don't like about it is the insane amount of archive the app takes up :crazy:fou.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tifreak on January 06, 2006, 02:37:00 pm
Could you please elaborate on the amount? I am kinda curious now...
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: CDI on January 06, 2006, 03:14:00 pm
I NEED TO TRY THIS
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: BCTurk on January 06, 2006, 04:42:00 pm
Mmm, I might work on translating the tutortials, but I'm not even close to being fluent in french, so I dunno.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: dragon__lance on January 06, 2006, 05:38:00 pm
QuoteBegin-tifreak8x+6 January 2006, 21:37-->
QUOTE (tifreak8x @ 6 January 2006, 21:37)
Could you please elaborate on the amount? I am kinda curious now...  

 ~65,000 Archive space if i recall correctly, about half mem of 83+!  
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Liazon on January 06, 2006, 07:07:00 pm
What!!!! I'm going to stick with ASM, no offense to anyone who's planning on using FastRPL.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: tenniskid493 on January 06, 2006, 07:31:00 pm
Thats Huge!!!
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on January 07, 2006, 01:59:00 am
QuoteBegin-dragon__lance+-->
QUOTE (dragon__lance)
i tried fastRPL a little and played the games made for it. Seems to work quite fast and is very impressive. One thing i don't like about it is the insane amount of archive the app takes up


that
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 07, 2006, 02:28:00 am
wow I never though that was that huge! O_Oshocked2.gif wow

well at least it allow for cool games making but I hope you dont need the whole app just to play games >_>
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on January 07, 2006, 03:18:00 am
QuoteBegin-xlibman+7 January 2006, 14:28-->
QUOTE (xlibman @ 7 January 2006, 14:28)
I hope you dont need the whole app just to play games >_>  

 uh... I think you DO need it... since it
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 07, 2006, 03:37:00 am
didnt there was an app to edit program and another one for playing them&?
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on January 07, 2006, 03:43:00 am
at least the last time I played around with it it was one App >Dgni.gif


so, nope <_<dry.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 07, 2006, 03:57:00 am
eew so we need to bring that big app with us just to play a game? wow
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: kalan_vod on January 07, 2006, 04:14:00 am
If one wanted a boost from basic and didn't want to totally learn asm you could use http://joepnet.com/hosted/maxcoderz/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1293 , yes it's asm, but it is a little easier to use.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 07, 2006, 04:15:00 am
hmm sound interesting, at least this should make developpement easier :)smile.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Spellshaper on January 07, 2006, 06:25:00 am
Interesting... _maybe_ I
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Post by: kuda on March 23, 2006, 09:54:00 am
Hi, i'm kuda, one of fastRPL developers... I stoped working since months, on this project since I dont have a lot of time, and there are not many people intersted in it... The idea was to create a real fastRPL community, even if the project is not 100% finished... But if you say you are interested, I may rework on it when I have time... I spoke about english translation, well if someone could help me in that it would be great, so we could give the news to many big Ti sites (that was why I preferd to wait)...

I just wan't to say that crash may happen Oncalc... So if you wan't to code in fastRPL save everything in archive or on your PC... If one I find enough motivation in myself, but also in intersted people, I will complete that project, and at term, it should be crash-free at all.

So don't hesitate to test samples games, try to code some stuff, and register on the website if you intend to do something... If you understand a bit a french, and you have a good logic, you could be able to translate the tutorials... I'm too bad in english to make my programation explaination clearly enough, so your help would be great !

Thank you every one,
Kuda
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: Radical Pi on March 23, 2006, 11:46:00 am
Welcome to Omnimaga! I would love to see a FastRPL community, I was waiting for it to catch on but it didn't. :(sad.gif
Anyway, I wish you luck!
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 23, 2006, 02:16:00 pm
Hi kuda long time no see :)smile.gif I dunno if I would have time to translate all the tutorials, but if I had some I could do it, some ppl would just have to help me translate the ASM related stuff ;)wink.gif
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: kalan_vod on March 23, 2006, 02:29:00 pm
Well I could help with seeing if it sounded correct in English, but other than that just use google translator :Pblah.gif. I tried it out, but it was a little to big to use on my 83+BE. But it would be cool to see completed.
Title: FastRPL Anyone?
Post by: elfprince13 on March 23, 2006, 05:37:00 pm
QuoteBegin-kuda+Mar 23 2006, 15:54-->
QUOTE (kuda @ Mar 23 2006, 15:54)
Hi, i'm kuda, one of fastRPL developers... I stoped working since months, on this project since I dont have a lot of time, and there are not many people intersted in it... The idea was to create a real fastRPL community, even if the project is not 100% finished... But if you say you are interested, I may rework on it when I have time... I spoke about english translation, well if someone could help me in that it would be great, so we could give the news to many big Ti sites (that was why I preferd to wait)...

I just wan't to say that crash may happen Oncalc... So if you wan't to code in fastRPL save everything in archive or on your PC... If one I find enough motivation in myself, but also in intersted people, I will complete that project, and at term, it should be crash-free at all.

So don't hesitate to test samples games, try to code some stuff, and register on the website if you intend to do something... If you understand a bit a french, and you have a good logic, you could be able to translate the tutorials... I'm too bad in english to make my programation explaination clearly enough, so your help would be great !

Thank you every one,
Kuda  

 please...please...pleasee....finish it.  :bow:worship.gif:bow:worship.gif:bow:worship.gif