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Title: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 26, 2014, 04:43:32 pm
Casio has recently announced a new graphing calculator dedicated to the Chinese market: The fx-FD10 Pro.

According to TI-Planet news, the technical specs are the following:
64 KB of RAM
128x64 monochrome LCD
USB port
SD card slot
1.2 MB of Flash

From the screenshots, it looks like an FX-9750GII or FX-9860GII, but with Chinese language support. The lower amount of Flash memory (the 9860G had 1.5 MB) is probably due to the Chinese language support. However, the design and keypad is drastically altered:
(http://t1.qpic.cn/mblogpic/fc1c150a77681ec31a72/460)

The new case is apparently designed so that the calculator can be used outdoors, being more resistant to elements. Unfortunately, unlike Nokia phones, it isn't resistant to lava, gamma ray bursts nor hurricanes. The case also lets you tie the calc to your clothes or something else. It appears to be mainly aimed towards engineers rather than students.

The price, set to 1500¥, is similar to the TI-Nspire CX CAS in China, despite lacking an actual CAS.

News/image source: http://t.qq.com/wang_zhongwei?mode=0&id=316099055556812&pi=2&time=1395562985 via http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=159793&sid=56a6b5b8da24c39e8998b213a2cb8b53#p159793
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 26, 2014, 05:31:23 pm
LOL @ Nokia. XD
Also well it's not for me. :P Maybe I'll get a Prizm and a 9750/9860 someday though.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 26, 2014, 05:45:11 pm
Yeah same, especially considering the price. Someone just got the same calc hardware (aside from the lack of Chinese and different keypad) for 15 euros and could be able to convert it to a 9860Gii. No way I'm gonna pay $268.43 for an altered FX-9860G when I got mine for $90.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 26, 2014, 05:52:58 pm
Yeah I'm gonna see how much the Graph35+ USB is at the local store and get one if it's not too expensive.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Streetwalrus on March 26, 2014, 06:26:34 pm
I wonder why there is so few space available on a 4 MB flash.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TIfanx1999 on March 27, 2014, 10:01:30 am
How strange looking. The design almost makes it look like a grade school calculator. O.O
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: northern_snow on March 27, 2014, 11:12:56 am
Hey please notice that it is NOT a graphing calculator! It's the successor of the fx-5800p, a PROGRAMMING calculator designed for engineering. (Maybe we will find a way to flash the 9860 OS, but the keyboard is a big problem then)
 Also it haven't been decided yet whether there will be an international model according to a manager of CASIO China.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 27, 2014, 02:12:52 pm
Strange, I didn't know that programmable calcs are still being made. I guess it would make more sense this way since it's for engineers, though. However, from the technical specs, I think this calculator uses hardware similar to the FX-9860GII. Casio often re-uses the same hardware for multiple calcs, especially their scientific models.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TIfanx1999 on March 27, 2014, 02:27:16 pm
@Northern Snow: Ahh, that explains the design. I wonder why the hell it's so expensive? ???
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 27, 2014, 02:32:41 pm
I noticed that Casio calcs tend to be extremely expensive outside North America, often more than TI calcs. For example, a Casio PRIZM in France is 10 euros more expensive than the TI-Nspire CX CAS, while in Canada, it's between $70 cheaper and USA $30 cheaper.

however, it could also be a new trend by Casio to make very overpriced calcs. See the fx-CP400, for example.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: northern_snow on March 29, 2014, 09:16:35 am
@Northern Snow: Ahh, that explains the design. I wonder why the hell it's so expensive? ???

Maybe it's because 10D Pro aims at those road and bridge construction companies instead of individual buyers. Also, engineers are usually less sensitive to the price than students. IMHO it will be success because it caters almost all the needs of engineers who needs to do measurement and calculation in the out space. It's the first calculator reaches IP4 standard, the first supports backlight keyboard and CSV importation. That's exactly what those people want.

There are more ads here: www.cncalc.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10088
You will have a better understanding about the calculator.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TIfanx1999 on March 29, 2014, 11:30:05 am
I guess that makes sense. I wonder if it'll ever see an English language release? It looks like a pretty interesting design. :)
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on May 02, 2014, 10:04:55 am
Website: http://www.casio-intl.com/asia-mea/en/calc/survey/fxfd10pro/ (http://www.casio-intl.com/asia-mea/en/calc/survey/fxfd10pro/)
Manual: http://support.casio.com/en/manual/004/fx-FD10_Pro_EN.pdf (http://support.casio.com/en/manual/004/fx-FD10_Pro_EN.pdf)

Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Sorunome on May 02, 2014, 01:43:33 pm
Wait, it takes an SD card? Nice!
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on May 06, 2014, 02:51:53 pm
Amazon China, Amazon Japan and some other Asian websites already sell this model.
Does anyone know a way I can buy this? No one is shipping to Europe...
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Streetwalrus on May 06, 2014, 02:55:06 pm
There are import services, or you could try to hook up with a Chinese calc enthusiast and see if he can send you one. ;) We have a couple over here although they're rarely posting.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 06, 2014, 11:31:29 pm
I wonder if Ebay might have it? Sometimes, China has plenty of stuff with cheap shipping fees there. However, be careful about knockoffs.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Princetonlion.tibd on June 11, 2014, 02:49:29 pm
It says this in the lower right corner:
Chinese based programming language
BASIC like programming
Backlight

P.S. I speak Chinese



There are import services, or you could try to hook up with a Chinese calc enthusiast and see if he can send you one. ;) We have a couple over here although they're rarely posting.

Technically I am one, I'm just not in China. I could try to get one :)
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 22, 2014, 12:01:59 am
I wonder if the language is just BASIC but with every command translated or something faster?
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on July 21, 2014, 08:35:18 am
You can contact Chen Si <[email protected]>
He is the admin of cncalc.org and has bought the calculator for me.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 21, 2014, 12:06:58 pm
That reminds me, can we post in English on cncalc.org?

About purchasing the calc, though, I'll pass on it because the price converted in dollars seems way higher than most other calcs over here.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on July 27, 2014, 05:19:09 am
Quote
That reminds me, can we post in English on cncalc.org?

You can, but normally you don't get many responses when you do so.
Yet, Chen Si understands English very well.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2014, 12:32:22 pm
Ok thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Princetonlion.tibd on July 28, 2014, 08:43:28 am
There are import services, or you could try to hook up with a Chinese calc enthusiast and see if he can send you one. ;) We have a couple over here although they're rarely posting.
I could try getting you guys one next time I visit China (depending on the price), but I would get an English version for myself because personally I get headaches reading Chinese :P


EDIT: Wait, you guys want a Chinese one?
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 29, 2014, 02:24:26 am
I doubt there is an english version of that calc. The only way to make it English is to flash it with the OS of another calc (such as a 9750GII). That's assuming that is possible, though.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on July 29, 2014, 02:46:38 am
They do only support Chinese characters in Basic programs. There is no Chinese language option like on the Prizm!
I guess this is because of the low display resolution as you only have access to six display lines when using Chinese characters with the 'locate' command. Also, these characters are only supported in text mode, but not in graphics mode.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 29, 2014, 12:59:56 pm
How does BASIC speed compare on this calc compared to the American models?
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: TeamFX on July 29, 2014, 03:04:04 pm
The fx-FD10 Pro is basically an fx-9860GII with different keyboard layout and casing, plus some backported Prizm software functionality. I would say Basic is fast enough.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 29, 2014, 03:06:32 pm
Ok thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if it was rewritten or something.
Title: Re: fx-FD10 Pro: New Casio graphing calculator for China
Post by: Princetonlion.tibd on July 29, 2014, 07:11:44 pm
I will now persuade my Dad to get me one, I feel like I don't have enough calcs for my own enjoyment :P (not really)