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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: Eeems on March 15, 2011, 11:07:14 pm

Title: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Eeems on March 15, 2011, 11:07:14 pm
As this Cemetech news article (http://cemetech.net/news.php?id=446) states, gCn via direct USB is not far from finished. Soon we wont have to have an Arduino microcontroller board or a custom AVR USBHID bridge to connect to the internet via gcn.

In other news, happy belated Pi day :D
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: calcdude84se on March 15, 2011, 11:08:13 pm
Note that this development is for the 84+(SE) only, not the ones without the USB ports ;)
Great progress Kerm and others!
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Eeems on March 15, 2011, 11:09:58 pm
Note that this development is for the 84+(SE) only, not the ones without the USB ports ;)
Of course, maybe even later he will work on a silverlink version too :P I'm just hoping though :)
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 15, 2011, 11:10:09 pm
OMG! I thought it was still in the discussion/planning process O.O. I was skimming through the topic sometimes but I don't understand much, so I wasn't sure. I hope this works with the TI-Nspire, because it's certain I'm gonna try this at one point.

Also yeah happy pi day in advance, although for French people we still have until July 22nd. :P
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Eeems on March 15, 2011, 11:13:06 pm
OMG! I thought it was still in the discussion/planning process O.O. I was skimming through the topic sometimes but I don't understand much, so I wasn't sure. I hope this works with the TI-Nspire, because it's certain I'm gonna try this at one point.
They have been working on it for the last two days I believe. I'm not sure it will work on the nspire though due to the usb being locked out of the 84+ emulator.
Also yeah happy pi day in advance, although for French people we still have until July 22nd. :P
oh really? :P
03/14 was yesterday for me, so it's already over for me :(
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Darl181 on March 15, 2011, 11:18:12 pm
Will this be possible without using an ardiuno?
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: willrandship on March 15, 2011, 11:18:50 pm
That's the point of USB support. It bypasses the arduino, but can only link one calc to gCn
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: ralphdspam on March 15, 2011, 11:20:29 pm
:w00t:
I had no idea this would come so quickly!  Soon I can be able to play obliterate with many people! :)/me still wants an Arduino board, though.
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: calcdude84se on March 15, 2011, 11:22:22 pm
That's the entire idea :D Using your 84+(SE) with a directlink cable and some software to use gCn!
Edit: Ninja'd :P (This is what I get for not completing a post as soon as I start...)
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: JonimusPrime on March 15, 2011, 11:24:58 pm
Just to clear things up a Silverlink version is nigh impossible as the Silverlink speaks TI's OI protocol and CalcNet is an entirely different beast. Its like trying to Japanese to a Frenchman, it just doesn't work. Kerm could send calcnet packets via TI's protocol but it would require more PC side code and be a mess to handle.
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 15, 2011, 11:25:57 pm
Aw, right, I understand about the USB. Oh well... fortunately I got a Staples store nearby, I'll just go get a 84+ there instead of waiting an entire month to get one shipped online. :P

I'll still test on a TI-Nspire regardless, though.
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Juju on March 15, 2011, 11:35:16 pm
Well that's awesome, but I'm sorry to hear it's nearly impossible with the Silverlink like the one I have... I thought it would be like a serial port, you send stuff and the calc recieves it as is, and vice-versa?
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Lionel Debroux on March 16, 2011, 09:18:43 am
TI's protocol and CALCnet's protocol for MAC and PHY (the lowest communication layers) are different. Wrapping CALCnet frames in TI's protocol, as understood and generated by the SilverLink, is doable - but pointless.
Besides, the SilverLink and CALCnet are using the same hardware port on the calculator, so it's hard to use the SilverLink as a gCn bridge :)
(well, one could always use a 84+ doing the CALCnet/USB bridge, and a 84+ doing the USB/SilverLink bridge, but, er, an Arduino-based solution is much cheaper, easier and more reliable !)
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: aeTIos on March 16, 2011, 10:19:02 am
:w00t:
any idea when this DCS version will be released?

Wait, is this not wireless?
that would be even more awesome
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: KermMartian on March 16, 2011, 11:14:54 am
aeTIos, as soon as all the bugs can get worked out, hopefully in the next week or two.
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: aeTIos on March 16, 2011, 11:40:39 am
ok nice

should a wireless version be possible?
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Jim Bauwens on March 16, 2011, 12:34:06 pm
I think that would be possible, but you will need more hardware, so higher costs.
Arduino + XBee on the computer side, and the same on the calculator side.

Edit: It might be possible to only have an XBee on the calculator side
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: Darl181 on March 16, 2011, 07:13:15 pm
In the past I've wondered if a normal wifi adapter could be hooked up to a calc (at least an 84) and have it connect to, say, a calc-screen friendly version of ticalc.org of something.
There would need to be some way of extracting .zips tho :P

That being said, would it be possible?
Title: Re: gCn via USB soon to be a reality, also Pi
Post by: AngelFish on March 16, 2011, 07:15:29 pm
Just to clear things up a Silverlink version is nigh impossible as the Silverlink speaks TI's OI protocol...

Hm, I've used my Silverlink for a bunch of different devices with no problem. No idea why it works then.