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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: KermMartian on September 11, 2013, 05:10:02 pm
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It has been a busy year for color-screen graphing calculators. Two previous color-screen graphing calculators existed, the Casio Prizm (http://www.cemetech.net/tools/prizm) from late 2010 and the TI-Nspire CX from February 2011. However, this year has brought us three new color-screen calculators: the TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition (http://www.cemetech.net/tools/ti84pcse), the Casio fx-CP400 (http://www.cemetech.net/news.php?id=592), and the HP Prime (http://www.cemetech.net/tools/prime). We learned of the HP Prime early this year, and in May, I had the pleasure of an interview with GT Springer (http://www.cemetech.net/news.php?id=593), the Education Solutions Architect for HP's calculator division, about this new calculator. Today, I am proud to present a full, formal hands-on review with a real HP Prime.
(http://www.cemetech.net/img/news/prime_review1.jpg)
Our HP contacts sent yours truly, Cemetech administrator Christopher Mitchell (http://z80.me), a preview calculator, the sleek handheld pictured above. In the past three days, I have spent many hours learning to use the device's math, graphing, statistics, and even programming features. Although for my fourteen years of graphing calculator use, I have gained most of my experience with Texas Instruments' calculators, I have long been aware of the passionate, even fanatical devotion for HP's calculators that many of their users harbor. As an engineer, I know that HP's calculators have been heralded as aimed squarely at the skilled college and professional users, whereas many of TI's calculators appeal to a high school and standardized testing crowd. I think there's market demand for both types of devices, but the HP Prime appears to be something new from the company. As GT Springer discussed in our interview (http://www.cemetech.net/news.php?id=593), he felt that the Prime will likely appeal to a larger cross-section of graphing calculator users than previous HP calculators. In my experiences with it, I think the device's capabilities measure up to that expectation. In this complete review, I'll show you the device's numeric (non-CAS) and symbolic (CAS) math features, powerful graphing features, and other applications. As the seasoned Cemetech member knows, we are particularly passionate about programming and hacking graphing calculators, so I'll look at the surprisingly fast and powerful programming language included on the Prime. Finally, I'll do a quick teardown of the device, so that you can see what makes it tick. The HP Prime is a fast, powerful, and sleek graphing calculator, and although I am of the cruelly realistic opinion that TI will continue to dominate the US market for high school and college graphing calculators, I think that HP has built a powerful, easy-to-use graphing calculator equally at home in the high school Algebra classroom or the college Electromagnetic Phenomena course.
Read the full review for all the details, along with more screenshots and photos! (http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9470)
Summary: The Big Picture
The HP Prime arguably aims to appeal to a broader audience than any other graphing calculator currently on the market. It is meant to provide all the tools that high school students need, students who normally turn to the TI-83+/TI-84+ family, or less frequently, the TI-Nspire CX, Casio Prizm, or Casio fx9860. It also tries to cover the needs of college and graduate students, who traditionally use the TI-89, TI-Nspire CX CAS, or HP's own calculators, and it even sees professionals, about whose calculator choices little is known, as a potential market. In using the Prime, I certainly agree that it has the potential to meet the needs of all three of those markets. It's a sleek, thin, powerful device, and its functionality is about 95% of the way to something I would be happy to use every day for academic and personal projects. The separation between CAS and non-CAS features is a nice touch, not to mention a great way to appeal to standardized testing boards and to teachers. The graphing features are intuitive and ground-breaking in their ability to handle almost any type of expression. In my testing, the screen was crisp and bright, the keys were satisfyingly clicky and responsive, and the battery life was admirable. I even enjoyed the fact that I could choose a custom color theme for the entire interface, switching from the default white-and-blue to a (in my opinion) classier black-and-maroon.
My criticisms are minor, and as a disclaimer, the calculator I used was an engineering sample with a mid-August build date, so some of the issues I ran into may already be fixed. Anyway, to get that final 5% of the way to a great calculator for me (and other students, teachers, and professionals), my biggest suggestions would be in the area of user-friendliness. Even as a seasoned calculator user well-accustomed to interpreting what my calculator expects, many of the error messages on the Prime fell somewhere between ambiguous and mud. When I was trying to use features, a yellow exclamation mark would occasionally pop up, often without me being clear what I had touched to make the device unhappy. Finally, as someone not accustomed to HP calculators, the use of Views was originally foreign to me, and it took me some experimenting to realize that every application had Symb, Plot, Num, Help, View, and Menu Views. While I now understand it and think it's as reasonable a way to arrange the interface as any other system, I didn't find it initially intuitive. Perhaps I should have just spent a few minutes reading the manual, or perhaps there should be a Quick Start application that teaches you to efficiently use the HP Prime.
If your teacher gives you an option to pick your calculator, or you're in college, graduate school, or the workforce, I recommend giving the HP Prime a look, and see if it is right for you. It certainly has a full complement of math and programming features, and your main obstacle to using it might be teachers and classmates accustomed to other companies' devices. My HP contacts tell me that the HP Prime will be available online on HP Shopping, Amazon.com, Newegg, Tiger Direct, and other online stores in October, and is expected to reach brick-and-mortar stores like Office Depot, Staples, or Office Max in early 2014. The calculator will premier at $150, and every physical calculator comes with the emulator included (and teachers can request the emulator for free).
Read the full review for all the details, along with more screenshots and photos! (http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9470)
(http://www.cemetech.net/img/news/prime_review3.jpg) (http://www.cemetech.net/img/news/prime_review10.jpg)
Source:
Hands-On with the HP Prime: Full Review (http://www.cemetech.net/news.php?id=623) from Cemetech (http://www.cemetech.net)
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As a calculator enthusiast, knowing that the BASIC language of this calculator can generate fast parallax scrolling, that is enough to convince me to buy it, but I am glad that is has many math features. By the way, have you often run into freezes and crashes when using the calculator? They were particularly frequent on the HP 39gII (from which the HP Prime OS is based on). I think Critor ran into some before, but it was an older sample that he had.
Two previous color-screen graphing calculators existed, the Casio Prizm (http://www.cemetech.net/tools/prizm) from late 2010 and the TI-Nspire CX from February 2011.
Correction: Three previous color-screen graphing calculators existed. Way back in 1995, there was the Casio CFX series which spans through a dozen of derivated models (9850G, 9850G+, 9950G, etc). ;)
That calculator series was discontinued in 2003, replaced by the FX-9750G (which is pretty much identical, but lacks color), but yeah, Casio was 14 years ahead of TI for color calcs. :P
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Wha, there were old color calcs? O.O
Anyways, nice review kerm, thanks for sharing! :D
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Yeah the old ones had a green LCD but instead of just blue or black, it could display three colors at once, each of which could be changed via contrast settings (it was even possible to make the calc monochrome by setting all three colors to blue).
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Way back in 1995, there was the Casio CFX series which spans through a dozen of derivated models (9850G, 9850G+, 9950G, etc).
According to this (http://www.spiderpixel.co.uk/caspro/subhtml/history.html), the first color fx was the CFX-9800G from 1993.
This is 10 years before the ClassPad and 20 years before the ClassPad II.
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Interesting, I was sure that one came out in 1995 and that it had 2nd-gen BASIC, according to some site and French ad I saw. That makes Casio even more ahead of their time :P.
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Looks like a great calculator. Hopefully, HP will release a SDK. But, does anyone know what the CAS is like in the Prime? And how does it compare to the Nspire CX? That's one of the main points for me...
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Yeah for now there is no SDK planned, but unlike the Nspire and PRIZM, its BASIC language is very fast and versatile. I am unsure about the CAS, though. This post might have more details about the CAS: http://ourl.ca/19350
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Apparently the CAS is Xcas so you might wanna check it out (it's free). Or just try the emulator. ;)
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Question: Is the HP Prime touch screen more like mobile phones or more like the Nintendo DS/DSi/3DS consoles? On the 3DS consoles and such, if you touch the screen, you can notice that there is some sort of very soft plastic with an air layer below it, requiring more pressure and making it better for use with a stylus. The ClassPad 400/II screen is more like the Nintendo DS series touch screens.
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What you describe is resistive touch screens.
The HP Prime's touch screen is capacitive, which is like smartphones, so, no layer on top.
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Ok cool. I tend to prefer the latter, because it feels less sticky-ish, making it easier to slide accross the screen.
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Apparently the CAS is Xcas so you might wanna check it out (it's free). Or just try the emulator. ;)
Thanks for the reply! I've tried the XCas out but I'm still getting used to it. I'm normally used to Microsoft Mathematics and WolframAlpha.
The problem is I haven't tried the TI CAS- you don't get many TI calculators in the UK. So, I guess I'm asking, how does TI CAS compare to XCas? And to WolframAlpha/Microsoft Mathematics?
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TI's CAS is called Derive. I believe there's a computer version. ;)
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TI's CAS is called Derive. I believe there's a computer version. ;)
Thanks! I'll have a look at it.
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Historically, the HP-49 CAS used to shine at several things that the TI-68k series' CAS sucked at (see ti89vshp49.pdf). The Nspire's CAS has marginally improved over the TI-68k series' CAS... several limitations have been fixed, but many bugs have been added over the past two years.
TI displays more concern for trying to lock down the Nspire than for trying to have it produce correct results.
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Yeah, I remember some people in the past over here (although one was just a plain HP fanboy who thought HP calcs were perfect in every way, even community size) have mentionned that the 49g series were much better, CAS-wise, although some stuff were better on the Nspire. The issue with HP calcs is that some people found them too hard to use because of SysRPL and RPN, which is probably why HP has expanded the newer models so that RPN use isn't required and the language is closer to Ti/Casio BASIC.
The major issue with the 49g itself, though, was the keypad. IIRC, keys were overly clunky and the keypad would eventually break. The 50g supposedly fixed that, though. On the other hand, I find Casio PRIZM and CP400 keys to be too soft.