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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: critor on August 21, 2013, 07:40:20 am

Title: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: critor on August 21, 2013, 07:40:20 am
In a previous news (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12679), an alpha version of the HP-Prime software leaked on the Internet from China.

Since, Hewlett Packard has authorized its partners to publicly host a newer version of this software. The message in question must have been misunderstood by some, as Klaas Kuperus has posted on HP-Museum (http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=247985#247985) not the HP-Prime software, but the login and password of the private FTP folder to recover it:
ftp://primesw:[email protected] (http://ez8tut.sourceforge.net/redirect/hpprime.php)

The problem being that on the 8th of August, this folder did contain other files which are still confidential:
The 'firmware.zip' archive did contain:
So some of those files may be very interesting for hackers/tinkerers and may eventually reappear on the Internet if the HP-Museum topic readers did get them in time.

Indeed, the day after the leak, HP took some actions with that folder:
Maybe they had set up some scripts which had been searching for the password for several hours/days, but the cnCalc.org website has finally published this morning a decrypted version of the above file. A great starting point to discover more about the HP-Prime. ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/cGp7sWD.png)



Beware, the usbtool tool which allows you to write or read any image to any memory address of the calculator seems dangerous. The operating system consists indeed of several ROM images, each one having to be programmed at a very specific memory address:
So HP-Prime calculators might be bricked permanently in case of misuse of that tool.



Crossposted from:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12867&lang=en
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12870&lang=en

Download:
ftp://primesw:[email protected] (http://ftp://primesw:[email protected])

Sources:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=247985#247985
http://www.cncalc.org/thread-9276-1-1.html
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: SpiroH on August 21, 2013, 09:03:03 am
Fine! :) Why doesn't the explorer picture look as good as the one in TI-Planet's post? Can anyone fix it? x.x
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: TeamFX on August 21, 2013, 10:28:41 am
The password for firmware.zip is: Prime
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: critor on August 21, 2013, 10:36:44 am
Thanks.
So a simple dictionnary-based attack should have been enough.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Adriweb on August 21, 2013, 10:44:06 am
Before any brute force or dictionary based attacks, simple guesses like this would have sufficed. It's probably what the cncalc member(s) did ?

I'm not sure why HP chose this that easily findable ^^ Maybe to encourage community buzz/development aroudn the platform. Good enough for me ^^
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Adriweb on August 21, 2013, 11:01:48 am
Ah, yeah, 6 chars :) Indeed, pretty fast

(One could think they'd have put a more difficult password like the ftp one... but nope)
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Keoni29 on August 21, 2013, 11:16:11 am
Careless, stupid or genius.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 21, 2013, 11:35:00 am
Definitively intentional lol. I just hope that it was the case, though, and that they don't do what TI did with OS 1.1 a few years ago. But again, even if they do, they are probably well aware that by now, several important people had time to get the file.

By the way, if manuals were present in the folder, does anyone know if those were updated with HP Prime programming? The latest one bundled with the emulator (PDF) still had HP 39gII coordinates and colors, so most code examples didn't work properly.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: SpiroH on August 21, 2013, 12:57:33 pm
Quote from: adriweb on August 21, 2013, 11:01:48 am
Ah, yeah, 6 chars :) Indeed, pretty fast
Ah,Ah... even faster, look closely using 'Google Translate' in the above cncalc link and you'll notice the guy explains how he got the 'Prime' password. :P
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: AssemblyBandit on August 21, 2013, 08:50:50 pm
TeamFX = Beast!!! That's awesome! (not to mention the person/s who grabbed the files!)

I have a feeling it was intentional as well ;)
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Keoni29 on August 22, 2013, 03:56:59 am
It feels like this is what the CSE should be: a very nice graphing calc with a color screen and an oldschool UI.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2013, 01:12:07 pm
Quote from: SpiroH on August 21, 2013, 09:03:03 am
Fine! :) Why doesn't the explorer picture look as good as the one in TI-Planet's post? Can anyone fix it? x.x
Omnimaga tries to limit front page images and screenshots to 550 pixels in width, so that no horizontal scrollbar appears in the news for people who use 1024x768 resolution. Of course they can be larger, but they are normally resized with the img tags (right-click->open in new tab to see it full size)
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2013, 01:14:23 pm
Quote from: Keoni29 on August 22, 2013, 03:56:59 am
It feels like this is what the CSE should be: a very nice graphing calc with a color screen and an oldschool UI.
It actually is old school, the issue is just that the processor used is not suitable for that type of calc (although it would have been fine if there was graphic acceleration or something). Also I am glad that the 84+CSE lacks CAS support, because that way it has higher chances to be allowed in US tests.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Keoni29 on August 22, 2013, 01:15:40 pm
I know it's oldschool for the CSE. It's the same with the Prime. I really like that about it. Even though it has a touchscreen it's not a windows clone.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2013, 01:16:53 pm
But the gradient in the title bar makes it non-old school :P (although I guess you have a point when it comes to BASIC programming, which seems to let us make SNES-like games or at the very least Sega Genesis)
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: Keoni29 on August 22, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
Nah not the shiny colors, but the overal feel of the UI makes it oldskool.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: timwessman on August 22, 2013, 02:48:29 pm
Quote from: Keoni29 on August 22, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
Nah not the shiny colors, but the overal feel of the UI makes it oldskool.

You mean it isn't a desktop application packaged onto a calculator (nspire)?
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2013, 03:00:56 pm
Yeah I think he might mean that the overall look at first glance is kinda like older calcs, such as the 89 (or in program execution case, 84+). THe Nspie is more like Windows where there are multiple windows that can be of any size rather than a calc.
Title: Re: HP-Prime firmware and softwares leaked to the Internet
Post by: iconmaster on September 22, 2013, 12:03:07 pm
So, we now have the SDK OS, so now we can find out what it does. Has anyone successfully loaded the SDK OS on their calculators?