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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2012, 01:27:50 pm »
I think I can answer for him:

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Btw, do you work for TI?
Yes and no, in that he isn't on their payroll, but it's no secret that he is under NDA for Nspire OS 3.2, works on EEPro (though he's got lots of homework at the moment) and sends some Lua-based content to TI.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2012, 01:46:07 pm »
I think I can answer for him:

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Btw, do you work for TI?
Yes and no, in that he isn't on their payroll, but it's no secret that he is under NDA for Nspire OS 3.2, works on EEPro (though he's got lots of homework at the moment) and sends some Lua-based content to TI.

Excatly :)

For stuff I've done, though, I got to the T3 conference etc., for example...

However, EEPro is a TI-Planet project, nothing to do with TI.
But they're probably interested in seeing what we can do since it's a huge project :)

Plus, I'm going to work for them under contract soon :)
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2012, 01:55:30 pm »
Indeed, I work quite close with TI.

Also, downrating is not a personal attack. I said it to show how I thought about your post(s).
In my opinion you made TI much worse then what they are.
I agree that blocking ndless is wrong, but they are not greedy bastards.
They have spend quite some money the past year to be more involved with the community (mainly through TI-Planet).
I got my CX CAS from them, together with expensive teacher software. You might thinks thats the reason I'm so pro TI, but thats not true. I've seen how they really are.

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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2012, 02:45:12 pm »
I also got a CX CAS + Teacher software from TI (without having signed an NDA, it was for TILP development; in the past, Romain LiƩvin also got hardware from TI), but I tend to have a different opinion of how they really are.

But it's just that, my opinion, and neither "side" is going to convince the other one anyway, so I'm not sure we should keep discussing about TI's motivations/actions, and what we think about them :)
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2012, 03:24:49 pm »
Indeed, I work quite close with TI.

Also, downrating is not a personal attack. I said it to show how I thought about your post(s).
In my opinion you made TI much worse then what they are.
I agree that blocking ndless is wrong, but they are not greedy bastards.
They have spend quite some money the past year to be more involved with the community (mainly through TI-Planet).
I got my CX CAS from them, together with expensive teacher software. You might thinks thats the reason I'm so pro TI, but thats not true. I've seen how they really are.
Well in my view they're still kinda greedy in a way, because there's no other excuse to charge $194.99 for a calculator, when you can buy a dual core computer for that price on Boxing Day/Black Friday at Best Buy.

Heck in Canada you can get a Nintendo 3DS for cheaper than that. Granted, that's not a calculator, but when I bought my CX at Staples last Summer, most clerks and cashiers told me they found TI calcs to be way too expensive for their budget and that they prefer sticking to their old 86 or 89 found at a pawn shop.

The CX could really be cheaper IMHO, possibly close to what the PRIZM costs, although a bit higher.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2012, 03:31:57 pm »
Of course 195$ is too much, but I don't think it's the normal price.
There is a big chance the store decided the price. (But idk)

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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2012, 03:43:00 pm »
In USA the same store charges like $159-165. What I don't get is why TI charges so much outside United States when Nintendo/Sony charges the exact same price for their console/handhelds in both Canada and USA? ($169 and $249 for the 3DS and PSVita, respectively)

Btw the lowest I've ever seen for a regular 84+ here is $119.99, during a sale. The regular (and lowest) price is $149.99. Wal-Mart sells them for $169.99 and TI website has deleted their canadian store completely. (used to be $149.99 for Canadians)

Also I checked TI website a while ago and found the US prices to be rather high too. Considering the PRIZM price of $129.99 and $99.99 during school sales, you would expect the TI-Nspire CX to range between $139.99 and $149.99 and $119-129 during school start sales).


Also, I personally found quite some of your remarks rude and would have down rated them if I could.


Jim, I would like to respectfully make a couple of points.
First, I don't know you and  I've never said any thing negative to you or about you so to make a personal attack on me like that is strange unless you have a personal or business reason for supporting TI that way.  
Second, my experience with TI has been very unsatisfactory so I view them much differently than you apparently do.
Third, I call it the way I see it and you need to understand that attacking the messenger because you don't like the message doesn't change reality one bit.
So have a good day and Btw, do you work for TI?
I think he was rude to you because your messages themselves were rude (especially the ones in another topic). Also it'S generally a bad practice to accuse someone of making personal attacks towards you in response to a reprimand about being rude, becuse it sounds like you are trying to act like you are perfect and never do anything wrong or trying to shift blames on others. Also knowing you as member, you are not a troll, but actual trolls often use the blame shifting tactic on others who defends themselves or someone else, and I don't think you want other forum members to see you as a troll.

Anyway let's not take fanboy attitudes here. I don't see you as a Casio fanboy and I don't see Jim/Adriweb as a TI fanboy, but both gotta be careful to not sound like so and not act like one company is perfect and isn't doing anything wrong or the complete opposite.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2012, 12:38:57 pm »
I actually saw CX in $109.99 when the school started O.o
And I bought my CX with $135.99 in Wal-Mart. So the high prices are probably due to store manager's choice.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2012, 06:25:40 pm »
fixprint doesn't give me any output doing nothing and runprint opens a document with a Lua script which doesn't print anything to the screen neither to the RS232 port...

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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2012, 06:27:20 pm »
Maybe there's a problem with your RS232 adapter. If you can see something in nspire_emu's console, you can be sure its an hardware issue.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2012, 06:34:23 pm »
Maybe there's a problem with your RS232 adapter. If you can see something in nspire_emu's console, you can be sure its an hardware issue.
isn't it supposed to show some text on the screen?
Code: [Select]
print("hello world")
print(1, 2, 3)
print(FOOBAR)
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2012, 06:37:53 pm »
No, only on the RS232 output, which is emulated by nspire_emu by printing on the DOS console.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2012, 08:32:08 pm »
Maybe there's a problem with your RS232 adapter. If you can see something in nspire_emu's console, you can be sure its an hardware issue.
isn't it supposed to show some text on the screen?
Code: [Select]
print("hello world")
print(1, 2, 3)
print(FOOBAR)
No. Use
on.paint(gc) gc:drawString("Hello World", 0, 0, "top") end
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print() is only outputing text through serial port and as said ExtendeD, you can see its content in the nspire_emu console.
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Re: Lua print restored in OS 3.1
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2012, 06:22:27 am »
My problem was only with the wiring...