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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 09:10:11 am »
On a side note, are we all joining #omnimag2 for a while now?

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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2011, 09:35:10 am »
Can I be 'voiced'?


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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2011, 10:01:52 am »
On a side note, are we all joining #omnimag2 for a while now?
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2011, 10:20:06 am »
Due to recent incidents I have decided to do a massive restructure to IRC.
The channel is, for now going to be invite only as we get things set up. OmnomIRC will eventually be connected, but at the moment it will not.

We are no longer going to voice everybody in the channel, in fact the channel will be in private mode (or whatever it's called) continually, so no non-voiced members can chat. New joiners will have to request voice from ops and it will be at the ops discretion.
While we do want to help people, I think that this sort of instant communication where people can be hurt quite easily should be limited for those who we know wont hurt others. People who have proven themselves to be good will be given ident from netbot so they can autovoice.
The greet bot will now give a greet to all members who join with more information then just the link to the rules, but some more outlining some more specifics, and information on how to ident for those who can. Also who holds ops in the channel will be re-thought, more may be added, some may be taken away, no promises as of yet.

This restructure can be changed in the near future, but first all the admins need to have a discussion about it and until then the rules outlined above are to be followed.

There will be no complaints about this change especially since it is not final yet and the decision is final that there will be restructuring due to what has happened.

Thank you for your patience in this transition.
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I agree with the idea of this, but I believe the way that the proposed way is rather uninviting to new people.  I propose that instead of not voicing anybody without them being added explicitly by a op, that they should be voiced a set time after the greet bot has sent them a link to the rules.  Afterwards, any bad behavior can be monitored by those users who are there and if the behavior is unwelcomed they could vote that the user be devoiced with something like '!mute <user>'.  A bot would tally these votes and if a certain amount is reached then the user would be devoiced and would await a final ruling by those in charge of the channel, or someone higher up.  To me, it is a much better solution to the current problem and more welcoming than the aforementioned method proposed by Eeems.  What do the rest of you think?
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2011, 10:30:39 am »
but if some trollers vote for DJ_O for example, DJ_O will be devoiced. Maybe only the anti-riot squad members / members with >250 posts could do vote for members to be devoiced?
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2011, 10:41:56 am »
I like anti-riot squad and up to vote, but then again, if someone were devoiced for no apparent reason, it would obviously be a troll and we could just voice him again.

speaking of which, how exactly do we get in #omnimaga?

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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2011, 10:56:45 am »
but if some trollers vote for DJ_O for example, DJ_O will be devoiced. Maybe only the anti-riot squad members / members with >250 posts could do vote for members to be devoiced?
Well, the idea of having a community effort on the vote stems from the riod squad people, and others who actually have power in the channel are not always there to do this.  Of course, if someone was devoiced then he/she could just be revoiced and the 'trollers' could then be banned for abusing this system.
I like anti-riot squad and up to vote, but then again, if someone were devoiced for no apparent reason, it would obviously be a troll and we could just voice him again.

speaking of which, how exactly do we get in #omnimaga?
At the time I think that the channel is still unreachable, but when restrictions are dropped, you can access it by connecting to a EFnet server through either a online or downloaded client such as mIRC or XChat and then joining the channel #omnimaga with the /join command.

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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2011, 11:02:39 am »
If you want entry, you can perform a /knock #omnimaga.  However, knock spamming is prohibited and will result in retribution at the discretion of the ops in the channel.
I tried using /knock, but Pidgin didn't recognize that command. Is there another way to do it?

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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2011, 11:04:58 am »
At the time I think that the channel is still unreachable, but when restrictions are dropped, you can access it by connecting to a EFnet server through either a online or downloaded client such as mIRC or XChat and then joining the channel #omnimaga with the /join command.

I meant now.  ;)  The logs show that Su-Chan is in there ATM, so I think you can get in, I just don't know if thats true.  :P

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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 12:54:49 pm »
Not complaining or anything, But could there be a tiny irc that is seperate.  It would only do the post notifications, so people can't type in it.  That way we could use post notifier again?
(Haven't gotten a chance to use it in a while, I am just assuming it's not working.)
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 12:58:25 pm »
I'll take this voting idea into consideration. Thanks for the input Tribal.
Currently to get into the channel you need an invite from someone already there.
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2011, 01:01:59 pm »
can someone invite me there or isnt that possible yet?
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2011, 01:11:56 pm »
I'll not be able to for at least 40 minutes, but when I get home I will. Unless someone else does.
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2011, 01:14:38 pm »
oh okay
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Re: Massive Restructure to IRC
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2011, 03:45:10 pm »
Can OmnomIRC come back? Maybe we can't type/talk in the channel but view #omnimaga, since eitherway people can read it in the logs.

Not sure if you agree, though.