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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on November 26, 2011, 10:51:24 pm

Title: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 26, 2011, 10:51:24 pm
While I was at work, on the 6th edition of TCAP, the French calculator-related voice chat, Adriweb showcased Ndless 3.1:
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/13/23/13/53/11-26-12.jpg)
(image from TI-Planet) (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118236#p118236)



As you can see in the screenshot of the webcams, it was running nDoom. In the source news about this (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118236&sid=f25f76db448d31453bb2de30ed32bc90#p118236), more images are available, one showcasing gbc4nspire and another mViewer. The new version of Ndless, renamed to 3.1 instead of 3.0 due to its compatibility with OS 3.1.0, also ran Nover and Mandelbrot. Ndless 3.1 was tested by Adriweb on the TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad and Critor on the CAS Touchpad. We do not know if it runs on regular Clickpad and Touchpad models yet, but hopefully it should. Note that it won't run on the CX models, though, due to a strong protection against any abnormal OS behavior (such as when an Ndless program is launched). There are speculations that this protection might be hardware-based.

According to the TI-Planet news, the beta-tester version of Ndless 3.1 seemed pretty stable, not ever rebooting during its usage. Assuming TI won't try blocking it immediately, could this mark the return of ASM/C games on old Nspire models for people running OS the most recent OS, 3.1.0, soon?

In other calculator-related news, something else was showcased via video chat conference mediums, by KermMartian and tifreak8x, on the original HCWP: Tetris for the Casio PRIZM!


Topic (http://www.cemetech.net/news.php?id=485)

UPDATE (Nov 27th 2011): Added Youtube video of Ndless 3.1, thanks to Critor.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: epic7 on November 26, 2011, 10:56:30 pm
Won't run on cx... Ever??
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 26, 2011, 10:58:59 pm
Idk. It might eventually do, like it might never. However with the TI community we never know. In 1999 we discovered the 83+ hard an hardware protection against programs above 8 KB code size, then 12 years later BrandonW and Thepenguin77 managed to break it.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: calc84maniac on November 26, 2011, 11:04:27 pm
Well, naturally there is some way to work around it. The easiest way would be to mimic the OS in how it interacts with this (watchdog?) hardware, but of course the preferred solution is to disable it entirely, which might not be possible to figure out just by reverse engineering the OS.
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: epic7 on November 26, 2011, 11:06:34 pm
 x.x/me smashes something
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 26, 2011, 11:09:13 pm
/me cries when he realizes epic7 smashed hispiano
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Adriweb on November 27, 2011, 04:14:43 am
Eh, it will run on CX, don't worry.

Just not right now :)


(Would you lose faith in the Great Extended ? :D)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 27, 2011, 05:37:52 am
(Would you lose faith in the Great Extended ? :D)

No! I'm very happy that he still continues his work and never gives up :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on November 27, 2011, 05:38:35 am
It was there too(not till the end, though  D: )
Anyway, I too took some snapshots yesterday. I've cropped them so you can only see what's on Adriweb's screen:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/3-1.jpg)
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/2.jpg)
Pokemon!:
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/3.jpg)
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/4.jpg)
(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/5.jpg)

Also that tetris looks very nice.  ;D(http://www.omnimaga.org/Themes/default/images/gpbp_arrow_up.gif)
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: totoyo on November 27, 2011, 06:51:11 am
Pokemon  :D


On TI  :'(
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Adriweb on November 27, 2011, 09:04:27 am
Thanks Stefan

(btw, it's ot the fractal program you uploaded, but mViewer with a photo :)  )
It looks like it tho lol
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Munchor on November 27, 2011, 12:22:16 pm
The way Ndless seems to be evolving (and the speed, too) is amazing!
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 27, 2011, 12:54:26 pm
/me cries when he realizes epic7 smashed hispiano
Why was I downrated? I was joking
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: critor on November 27, 2011, 03:02:57 pm
Did you miss Ndless 3.1 demo on TCAP yesterday?

Here's a demo just for you:
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Yeong on November 27, 2011, 03:04:56 pm
can I have a file? :D
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: Nick on November 27, 2011, 03:08:56 pm
wouldnt it workd on CX too if it works in B/W (but in B/W then)? cause color-> B/W works, so maybe the other way too xp

this is soooooo awesome
Title: Re: Ndless 3.1 showcased on TCAP, Tetrizm on HCWP
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 27, 2011, 03:29:06 pm
@Critor ok I am adding the vid to the news. :)