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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: Adriweb on November 05, 2011, 07:17:39 pm

Title: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 05, 2011, 07:17:39 pm
Amazingly enough, Extended (who we don't need to introduce anymore), did it again.

The Nspire 3.1 has been "jailbroken".

YES, I'M TALKING ABOUT NDLESS 3.

It's history, guys :)

Extended posted on his blog "ndlessly (http://ndlessly.wordpress.com/2011/11/05/ndless-3-preview/)" this photo and this video :



(http://www.mirari.fr/TiCc)

The hack requires (for now) a USB connection.

It's not stable for the moment, and is not released, so it's useless to ask where you can download it.

This is actually more of a proof-of-concept that anything else.

I guess it's just to remind us that he's still working for us all...


Let's hope it will be available soon ;-)

However, there are still some watchdog to workaround on the CX devices for the hack to work....


Let's discuss about this great news :D


Original article : http://ndlessly.wordpress.com/2011/11/05/ndless-3-preview/ (http://ndlessly.wordpress.com/2011/11/05/ndless-3-preview/)



If you want to talk about that in the french forum TI-Planet, here you go :
Si vous voulez en parler en français, vous pouvez aussi le faire sur TI-Planet :
Lien vers le topic. (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=8413)...
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:18:39 pm
O.O YES
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Jim Bauwens on November 05, 2011, 07:19:02 pm
This is just awesome!
Congratulations ExtendeD!
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mikehill2003 on November 05, 2011, 07:20:02 pm
AWESOME!

I wonder if we'll need a patched OS to keep things stable...
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:20:42 pm
does it work on 3.0.2?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mikehill2003 on November 05, 2011, 07:22:18 pm
does it work on 3.0.2?

probably
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Juju on November 05, 2011, 07:22:18 pm
Oh my god. The thing we were waiting for for so long.

GODDAMN MOVING IT TO NEWS.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:23:26 pm
Yeah I cant wait and  will nespire work or will the source have to be changed?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mikehill2003 on November 05, 2011, 07:24:45 pm
Yeah I cant wait and  will nespire work or will the source have to be changed?

I'd imagine it would still work, but it might need to be recompiled. OS3 is heavily protected, so I think stability is going to be a big issue here.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Yeong on November 05, 2011, 07:26:16 pm
Holy shit!
Epic!wq
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:27:33 pm
when it is released can someone recompile nespire for me? (if they have time and would like to)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mikehill2003 on November 05, 2011, 07:28:42 pm
when it is released can someone recompile nespire for me? (if they have time and would like to)

Don't worry, I'm sure the author will take care of that. This is probably going to take a long time to be released.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: ExtendeD on November 05, 2011, 07:30:05 pm
Programs shouldn't need to be recompiled (at least for non-CX calculators).
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:30:11 pm
ok then first ill download it anyways
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Juju on November 05, 2011, 07:30:37 pm
Also I guess I can already see a growth of the Nspire community with Ndless 3, as the release of OS 3.0 kinda killed it.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:31:00 pm
Programs shouldn't need to be recompiled (at least for non-CX calculators).
I have a cx
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 05, 2011, 07:32:22 pm
Quote
Programs shouldn't need to be recompiled (at least for non-CX calculators).

Awesome :D

(yay for the gameboy emulator :P)


@annoyingcalc : it's not ready yet for CX anyway.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: BalancedFury on November 05, 2011, 07:35:18 pm
I love how Extended did all the work, but adriweb got +2 for posting vid :P
JK btw, but this is purely amazing!
I too was waiting for this for quite a while now XD
:w00t:
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:39:09 pm
Quote
Programs shouldn't need to be recompiled (at least for non-CX calculators).

Awesome :D

(yay for the gameboy emulator :P)


@annoyingcalc : it's not ready yet for CX anyway.

Really? will it ever be?  :'(
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 05, 2011, 07:41:55 pm
Probably, since it's "just" a watchdog to workaround... It's just a matter of time :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:43:37 pm
YAY Im much happier now
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on November 05, 2011, 07:44:23 pm
WHY NO FOR CX
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:44:49 pm
it is only temporary it doesnt work with the cx

Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 05, 2011, 07:45:51 pm
That's why we need to be patient. It's going to come eventually don't worry ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:46:55 pm
ok yes so anyways YES I cant wait untill I can play castlevania smb3 smb1 contra and all my favorites!
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: BalancedFury on November 05, 2011, 07:51:25 pm
NU! Not for CS?
:(
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 05, 2011, 07:51:59 pm
it will be for the cx soon :D
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: ralphdspam on November 05, 2011, 09:02:52 pm
Wow!  This is great news!  I hope TI has learned their lesson.  (Probably not.  :P)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mrmprog on November 05, 2011, 09:23:57 pm
Awesome! Great job to the team who did this! (or was it only one person?)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 06, 2011, 02:16:00 am
Awesome ExtendeD. Great job at figuring it out. :D

Let's hope TI takes a while before blocking it.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 06, 2011, 02:17:01 am
and it gets released before then and it works for cx and I can use NESpire
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 06, 2011, 02:19:27 am
I'm curious if this comes out for the CX if some authors of previously released C/ASM games will come back to re-release them in color or if some people will take over the projects and add color? nDoom in color would absolutely RULE! O.O
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 06, 2011, 02:20:46 am
O.O I forgot about ndoom but contra or smb4 in color with be Awesome *9001
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Kjelddy on November 06, 2011, 05:55:21 am
AWSOME (had to be in caps to explain my feelings :P)
great job ExtendeD kudos to you.
now the gruwling wait remains :P
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on November 06, 2011, 06:54:29 am
It's not stable for the moment, and is not released, so it's useless to ask where you can download it.
Where can I download it? :P

This is just awesome. ExtendeD, bravo!
Also, maybe we just should keep this a secret so TI won't find out?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Chockosta on November 06, 2011, 07:09:18 am
Just awesome.
This night, I dreamed of NESpire in color.... :)
(The news on ndlessly was posted at 11:45 PM in France)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 06, 2011, 07:09:32 am
It's posted everywhere already, so it's not a secret :P

And TI would have found out eventually anyway :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: renatose on November 06, 2011, 08:07:06 am
This is just awesome! I'm looking forward to the day I can play pokemon again on my nspire...
I have chosen 3D graphics and Lua programs above C programs to try them, but now this rocks! This is the best of both worlds!

Will I need any extra equip or software to do this or is this simply an USB - mini-USB cable bundled with the nspire?
Will it be possible to create hybrid (Lua/C) programs? Like having a program writen in Lua with some added functions in C...

Wish you best of lucks to achieve this (GOD-LIKE) project!
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 06, 2011, 08:21:17 am
Will it be possible to create hybrid (Lua/C) programs? Like having a program writen in Lua with some added functions in C...
We'd have to figure out a way to create hooks that link the Lua interpreter and ndless librairies, and then we might be able to call C/asm routines directly from lua.
This it indeed an awesome feature that I'd like to help create if I have the opportunity to.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: apcalc on November 06, 2011, 09:10:34 am
This is amazing!  ExtendeD, you deserve so much praise for your hard work and dedication to this project!  Thank you! :D ;D
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: BalancedFury on November 06, 2011, 09:12:38 am
True that ^^^ :D
So when is it coming out? Soon? Tommorow? Today?
JUST CAN'T WAIT :w00t:
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 06, 2011, 09:36:16 am
Quote
So when is it coming out? Soon? Tomorrow? Today?
Probably not before weeks or even months: for previous versions of Ndless, there was a delay between the initial PoC showcase, and a stable program that can reasonably be used by users and developers ;)
It could be desirable to wait until the next OS version comes out for releasing Ndless 3: if the vulnerabilities are still available there, triple bonus points. If Ndless 3 comes out before the next OS version, TI will probably fix the flaws once again, and the next OS version is going to be left in the cold.

We all know and understand that users and programmers are impatient to get Ndless 3.x... but the higher the number of persons asking "when is it going to be released ?", the larger the delay, because someone (ExtendeD, myself, others) has to spend time replying "later" ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 06, 2011, 10:35:22 am
Just awesome.
This night, I dreamed of NESpire in color.... :)
(The news on ndlessly was posted at 11:45 PM in France)
my dream too
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Keoni29 on November 06, 2011, 10:54:52 am
Wait a sec. I'm a complete TI-nspire noob. What exactely have you accomplished? Removed security check that prevents us from installing unlicenced software?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 06, 2011, 10:59:51 am
Nope, this is not a new version of RunOS/OSLauncher.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Scipi on November 06, 2011, 11:33:55 am
He made it so we are able to run third party C/ASM programs on the Nspire. (XD)

I can't wait for a full color GBC emulator :D
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: ztrumpet on November 06, 2011, 11:43:29 am
YES!!!!!!!!!!
ExtendeD, you're awesome, man. ;D
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Keoni29 on November 06, 2011, 11:45:19 am
He made it so we are able to run third party C/ASM programs on the Nspire. (XD)

I can't wait for a full color GBC emulator :D
Oooh C programming! *wants*
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Camdenmil on November 06, 2011, 01:37:54 pm
Shock and awe. We're a little bit closer to c/asm games in COLOR :w00t:
Apple still hasn't gotten rid of jailbreaking, does TI really think they can.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: aeTIos on November 07, 2011, 04:49:51 am
WWWEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATS!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :hyper: :hyper: :crazy: :crazy:
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 07, 2011, 04:42:26 pm
Quote
So when is it coming out? Soon? Tomorrow? Today?
Probably not before weeks or even months: for previous versions of Ndless, there was a delay between the initial PoC showcase, and a stable program that can reasonably be used by users and developers ;)
It could be desirable to wait until the next OS version comes out for releasing Ndless 3: if the vulnerabilities are still available there, triple bonus points. If Ndless 3 comes out before the next OS version, TI will probably fix the flaws once again, and the next OS version is going to be left in the cold.

We all know and understand that users and programmers are impatient to get Ndless 3.x... but the higher the number of persons asking "when is it going to be released ?", the larger the delay, because someone (ExtendeD, myself, others) has to spend time replying "later" ;)
So I assume about half a year before release, right? When Ndless 2.0 PoC came out in Spring 2010, it took until about December 2010 before Ndless 2.0 comes out. So I would guess around Summer 2012 Ndless 3 should be coming out? (At least for the old models)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Freyaday on November 07, 2011, 04:47:34 pm
YES! I wonder if it'll work on CXs. Then I'll have a reason to get one.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Adriweb on November 07, 2011, 04:47:49 pm
I'd think it should be earlier... ;-)


( @ DJ_O )
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Freyaday on November 07, 2011, 04:48:25 pm
I'd think it should be earlier... ;-)
What?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Yeong on November 07, 2011, 05:00:02 pm
if this comes out, calc84maniac have to make gba emulator >:D
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on November 07, 2011, 06:19:09 pm
All pastafarians pay to the FSM that it will come out earlier than estimated by DJ_O!
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: calc84maniac on November 07, 2011, 06:20:08 pm
All pastafarians pay to the FSM that it will come out earlier than estimated by DJ_O!
Cash or credit?
/me runs
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Freyaday on November 07, 2011, 06:20:31 pm
All pastafarians pay to the FSM that it will come out earlier than estimated by DJ_O!
Cash or credit?
/me runs
Souls
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on November 07, 2011, 06:23:05 pm
All pastafarians pay to the FSM that it will come out earlier than estimated by DJ_O!
Cash or credit?
/me runs
Meatballs.
No lol I meant pray
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 07, 2011, 06:36:01 pm
I'd think it should be earlier... ;-)


( @ DJ_O )
Yeah I hope too. Else imagine how many people will beg for a release until then... O.O
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Deep Toaster on November 09, 2011, 03:53:02 pm
No frickin' way... How did I completely miss this news?

And how do you keep doing this, ExtendeD? :crazy:
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: ExtendeD on November 09, 2011, 04:10:42 pm
I've been doing this sort of things for 13 years, a bad habit hard to get rid of :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 10, 2011, 09:33:10 am
I know I've said this before, but you guys are amazing! A huge thank you to ExtendeD and anyone else contributing to Ndless.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on November 10, 2011, 01:02:02 pm
No frickin' way... How did I completely miss this news?

And how do you keep doing this, ExtendeD? :crazy:
-1 from me. That's just shameful. :P
Spoiler For Spoiler:
j/k  ._.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: JustCause on November 10, 2011, 03:34:47 pm
What's the score now? Calc enthusiasts 395, TI 0? :P
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: mushmoom on November 10, 2011, 04:15:24 pm
LEEEEEROOOOOOOOYYYYYYY JEEEEEEEEEEENKINNNNNNNSSSSSS its finally here!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 11, 2011, 02:13:43 am
Well, Ndless 3 is not quite here yet ;)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: senhorito11 on November 19, 2011, 04:37:32 pm
when cames out the ndless 3.0 ?
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Netham45 on November 19, 2011, 04:41:01 pm
when cames out the ndless 3.0 ?

It's not out yet; we don't know when it will be out.
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: annoyingcalc on November 19, 2011, 11:47:04 pm
What's the score now? Calc enthusiasts 395, TI 0? :P
XD
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 20, 2011, 02:32:19 am
senhorito11, it was explained above that nobody knows, but chances are that it will be months before it's available :)
Title: Re: Ndless 3 is born... (photo + video)
Post by: _Nicco_ on December 31, 2011, 06:49:33 am
Sweet! Thanks ExtendeD for all of your hard work!  :thumbsup: