Omnimaga
Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on June 20, 2011, 04:18:20 pm
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Normally, during Summer, there is an increase in trolling on Internet chats and forums. So from July 1st until late August (along with the second half of Fall), we usually enforce rules harder regarding that. However, since a lot of people are in vacation now, I noticed an increase in language wars attempts on IRC lately, and we are afraid the zero-tolerance policy which took the nDoom policy name after the nDoom invasion last February and March will enter into effect one week earlier.
What this means is that now, on the first trolling offense, instead of a warning, there will be an instant ban that ends at 2 AM of the following night, coming with the warning. Those bans are not kept on record like the 1 week ones that occurs after multiple warnings.
We would ask our users, especially on IRC, to cooperate, so we can keep the place as friendly as possible during the Summer period. Thank you.
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I'm sad to see it has come to this again.
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I'm sad to see it has come to this again.
The nDoom policy will become yearly until we see that there is no need from it anymore ( so it will be enforced at around this time each year till just after summer ends until there is no more need for it ). So it was coming no matter what, it just came a week early.
Hopefully we don't have to use this policy for that many more years, but with what has happened in the past I'm skeptical about that.
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Sorry if this is irrelevant but, why is it called the nDoom policy?
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Sorry if this is irrelevant but, why is it called the nDoom policy?
Because the same policy was issued during the nDoom invasion.
the zero-tolerance policy which took the nDoom policy name after the nDoom invasion last February and March
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I would like to re-iterate that language wars are not going to be tolerated during this period. If anyone, seem to be starting one, please politely tell them to stop and notify the chan ops. Thank you
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Hmm un happy about it yes..needed i think so... it gets horrid over the summer well at least people have gotten the only proper warning they will be getting this summer
/me polishes his ban hammer
*sigh*
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/me polishes his ban hammer
*sigh*
You mean you don't keep yours polished and ready for use at a moments notice?
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nope a steel toed boot normally does the job in irc ;)
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whats the nDoom policy? :o
Please see the first post, it explains it mostly
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I'm sad to see it has come to this again.
Well, I planned to re-instate it for July 1st to August 15th since several months ago actually, because I still remember in 2009 and 2010 it went quite hectic for a while (in 2009, people being overly spammy in #omnimaga and Mtgross trying to start inter-site wars, and in 2010, the Bungie incident followed by Zera (not Zeda/Xeda. Totally different person) trying to rule how the site should be ran). As result, I decided to not take any chance this year. Now, it just restarts a few days earlier.
Normally it's from November 1st to Jan 1st.
As for nDoom, basically in late February, Mraklopaz's TI-Nspire C port of the 1993 DOOM classic made it to Slashdot, Hackaday, Kotaku, Engadget and Gameinformer front page news, which brought extra traffic to the site. However, it was also featured on EncyclopediaDramatica (frequented by 4chan/b/ and 711chan/i/ users) and various hardcore gaming blogs, which were highly frequented by troublemakers. The latter caused us to be overrun by trolls for a while. In addition to that, near the end of the invasion we had to witness criticism from regulars from another TI calculator channel I will not name due to how we handled the situation, and they tried to force their site mentality on ours as facts, which added extra tension in #omnimaga. It went so bad that #omnimaga channel was shut down for two weeks from non-staff Omnimaga members, then later was made invite-only. OmnomIRC remained offline during two weeks. In addition to that, OmnomIRC now required 40 posts instead of 20 to be used, then eventually the site spam section was restricted to 100 posts users. Basically, massive restructure. X.x
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It's sad it has to come down to this. :(
I wasn't surprised it had to happen with the nDOOM invasion, as Omnimaga is a closely knit community, and when a flood of new people come in, chaos will happen, but having to do this because fewer people are around to keep the peace is sad.
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Well, normally new people are fine. We got plenty lately and last school year start and they were all fine. Granted, some people need to be called out sometimes, but it was never as bad as during nDoom feature. I think the nDoom thing is that it was featured on an actual troll site. X.x
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Ah, I thought it was because of the sheer number of people coming in, as it was posted on sites like Kotaku and Engadget.
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In addition to that, near the end of the invasion we had to witness criticism from regulars from another TI calculator channel I will not name due to how we handled the situation, and they tried to force their site mentality on ours as facts, which added extra tension in #omnimaga.
Yeah, while its good not to point fingers like you just showed, I think that "other websites" would be better than "other TI channels" because there's only 1 other major calculator channel, and one other that is frequented at much less so of a pace. It kinda gives it all away :P
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While it is sad that this has to come a week earlier due to recent events, I also must admit it is necessary, unfortunately, but that I hope it will work and effectively make Omnimaga a more friendly community.
The recent events showed us that some work still needs to be done when it comes to IRC and Forums Moderation, so I would also use this opportunity to ask that an IRC Bots links the rules to users who have been warned such as the people who were warned recently. This is a good measure with the objective of reminding these people that such acts cannot be repeated.
In addition, what happened last night should have never happened, once again, in my honest opinion, because someone (an IRC op) should have kicked the people who were bashing languages from IRC, instead of letting it happen and have DJ O warn those people through PM some time later. If the action was taken immediately it would not only show other people an example and stop the problem right away. Kicking is not a big issue, because people can come back again and I am sure that whomever was kicked would just stop the discussion right there and change the subject.
Finally, I'd like to say that I was one of the persons included in the last night events and so I also have to say, that if I had been kicked, I would have stopped the discussion and just give it up. Seriously, I think kicking and warning is more effective than banning. Especially because in my case, my next ban will be Permanent Ban.
Thank you for your attention.
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I'm sad it has come to this, but I do see why it has to happen. Hopefully the summer goes well for omnimaga
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In addition to that, near the end of the invasion we had to witness criticism from regulars from another TI calculator channel I will not name due to how we handled the situation, and they tried to force their site mentality on ours as facts, which added extra tension in #omnimaga.
Yeah, while its good not to point fingers like you just showed, I think that "other websites" would be better than "other TI channels" because there's only 1 other major calculator channel, and one other that is frequented at much less so of a pace. It kinda gives it all away :P
Well there are actually 4 major TI channels, although two of them are more active than the others and one of the less active ones barely has any calc discussion. In fact, the latter has about 30 more users than any other existing TI chan.
And David, sorry, no bot linking to rules, unless it's triggered with !rules. People kept complaining the last time we did that and it became too annoying. Also I didn't kick you or anything because I do not have kick/ban powers (anymore)
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And David, sorry, no bot linking to rules, unless it's triggered with !rules. People kept complaining the last time we did that and it became too annoying. Also I didn't kick you or anything because I do not have kick/ban powers (anymore)
I agree with !rules, I'd like it. And well we have 8 ops (DThought, Eeems, geekboy, Genolo, Juju, miotsatu, Netham and rcfreak0), not sure if that's enough, but it's just my opinion. I know this is not the topic and there is such a topic already, but AFAIK all of these are American causing some problems due to time issues.
Not sure if that would necessarily help with our issues, but yeah I'm getting off-topic.
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There are supposed to be more ops, but they aren't on often anymore on IRC.
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There are supposed to be more ops, but they aren't on often anymore on IRC.
The key word here is "supposed", but who am I to judge #omnimaga moderation, it's very good and almost needless, but not permanent.
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Yeah normally we rarely ever need any, and now with #omnimaga-spam being part of OmnomIRC it started to help a lot.
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whats the nDoom policy? :o
Please see the first post, it explains it mostly
sorry i just didnt read the first post right.. dang it that mistake gave me -2 respect :(
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I feel so guilty again x.x It's awful that things have to be this way this year (and part of it was my fault x.x)
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Nah don't worry about it. That week I think like 8 people went into language debates that went a bit far. I think it was just that people were in the mood to code, but happened to use different languages and were happy about the languages they used or pissed off at debugging others. Also the nDoom policy was gonna restart on July 1st regardless anyway.
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Ugh, I remember this. I had the misfortune to join right in the middle of The Invasion, (I came because of Axe; I had never heard of nDoom.) And got on the recieving end of one of those daybans.notfun
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Yeah X.x
I think like 5 new members who are active joined every week O.O. I bet a few sadly left due to the nDoom crysis, due to the constant drama. X.x In fact I hope this isn't why Mraklopaz left.
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Crysis? O.O
Anyway, I've noticed that a huge number of the people on the member list aren't active in the least, which is a shame, especially as most of those never were.