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Title: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 05:42:57 pm
I got my hands on a CX on Thursday; unfortunately, this is the first time I've had a stable internet connection since then.  Once I got it, I opened it ASAP and charged it up and immediately began making my first program - a quadratic solver.  :P

The CX yielded some surprising and not-so-surprising information.  Anyway, it turns out I get a slidecase after all.  ;)

 - The CX includes a slide case
 - Battery percentage is measured in increments of 25%
 - Length and width are very similar to an 84, but about half as wide
 - Battery life is similar to a phone's  (or maybe I use it too much.  :P)
 - Shiny
 - Light
 - Screen dims after a couple of minutes of no use
 - 115.2 MB of space left after OS is installed

It's pretty much a handheld computer.  Turning on seems to take no time at all, but turning off does.  As for this (http://ourl.ca/9451), the answer is definitely yes.  A video of the CX is available for download here (http://www.mediafire.com/?r98j803t8k8mxot), as requested by Scout.  ;)

The video was also uploaded on DJ's Youtube account:


On a side note, I met program4 this weekend.  :D
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: apcalc on May 08, 2011, 05:52:12 pm
Ooh!  Very nice!  Make a video of Block Dude Lua! ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 05:53:16 pm
Ooh!  Very nice!  Make a video of Block Dude Lua! ;)

I will as soon as I get the student software thingy set up, the CD keeps crashing my comp for some reason...  :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: apcalc on May 08, 2011, 06:08:11 pm
Ooh!  Very nice!  Make a video of Block Dude Lua! ;)

I will as soon as I get the student software thingy set up, the CD keeps crashing my comp for some reason...  :P

Well, TI made the CD. That could explain why it is crashing! :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 06:12:14 pm
Ahh cool! I'm still thinking about getting a Clickpad though.... :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 08, 2011, 07:33:47 pm
Which OS & Boot2 versions are installed ?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:37:54 pm
Boot2: 3.1.131
OS: 3.0.1.1753
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 07:40:23 pm
Nice that you got one, but how did you get it? Because on TI website it still says coming soon ???

Also it's possible to make a quadratic solver on the TI-Nspire? O.O
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:42:47 pm
Actually, I made a Quadratic Solver "Function", but same difference.  :P

TI sponsors Mathcounts.  ;D  I went to Nationals, they give a free calc every year, this year they promoted the CX.  \o/
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 08, 2011, 07:43:25 pm
If it was the CX CAS, we could have checked if the OS had the same CAS bugs as the ClickPad/TouchPad one...


Could you take a photo of the dock connector?

Are the booting screens any different? Could we have a photo/video of the booting?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:44:52 pm
I can maybe possibly ask my coach to see his CX CAS, since the coaches get a CX.  As long as it doesn't kill the calc.  :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 08:01:28 pm
With Yunhua98's permission, I put the video on my Youtube account for those who can't or don't want to download the file.

EDIT: Darn... the main calculator improvement, which is a color LCD, is so much underused it seems...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 08, 2011, 08:12:35 pm
Yes... the Prizm uses the color screen much better.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 08:26:05 pm
I hope they at least added parhentesis coloring. So far most color is the Periodic table, the home screen menu and the battery status icon. It seems like the color screen is just to make people go hyper and buy this calc instead, even if it has little color. That said, it looks MUCH better than the old screen, though.

I don't know when I will buy one. I collect calcs, but right now this calc is not a big priority, plus I bet it will take several months to arrive here anyway. I was more impatient at the Prizm release than the TI-Nspire CX.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ralphdspam on May 08, 2011, 08:35:13 pm
The screen looks quite nice.  I hope we can get C\ASM on there fast!  ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: srsr on May 08, 2011, 08:46:19 pm
Functions are graphed in different colors.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 08:47:10 pm
Ah that's good at least. I wish they added more colors around though X.x
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: srsr on May 08, 2011, 09:22:44 pm
I don't see where I would use it besides that...The menus use color too.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Ashbad on May 08, 2011, 09:25:03 pm
Functions are graphed in different colors.

the CG10-20 had that long before the monopoly stole the idea ;) in fact, casio has been using that standby for a while now.  woo-hoo actual innovation

Thing is, TI is just stupid.  I don't think I can find anything on the CX besides trivial things like more unusable memory or better quadratic formula-making BASIC languages that makes it stand out over the prizm.  This would be a industry failure if it wasn't from the monopoly.

Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 09:26:50 pm
I think it would make things looking more attractive and less bland. On the Prizm for example the calc section name at the top has blue bars and menus are all surrounded by blue borders. There are also background images and stuff. When programming in BASIC you can type colored text and stuff to make stuff look better.

Note srsr that here you are on a calculator game programming forum, not a math/general forum, so it's inevitable that you will find things less useful than us or the opposite.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ztrumpet on May 08, 2011, 09:35:53 pm
It looks pretty cool.  I wonder if it'll catch on in schools...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 08, 2011, 09:41:59 pm
I personally hope the Prizm gets more attention or that people stick to 84+ calcs or older TI-Nspires, because of how locked down TI tries to keep their newer calcs. I hope to see some cool stuff come out for the CX, though.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: srsr on May 08, 2011, 11:24:20 pm
From what I've seen, teachers generally tell students to stay away from Casios, because of the difficulty in getting students to understand using them.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 08, 2011, 11:36:39 pm
From what I've seen, teachers generally tell students to stay away from Casios, because of the difficulty in getting students to understand using them.
I had that same problem when I tried to convince my school to upgrade to Prizm's. By greatest concern was that if TI decided to cancel the 83+ line my school would then require everyone to get to get regular nspire's or CX's.  I was reassured from my math department chair that Ti will not cancel the 84+ line anytime within the next 10 years, BS :P and that even if they did the school prefers TI calcs because they are more often used in college.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 08, 2011, 11:59:06 pm
EDIT: Darn... the main calculator improvement, which is a color LCD, is so much underused it seems...

Yeah but they can still claim that they have a color screen.  Right?  Even if all you see is black and white they can still claim that they have a color screen.  Right?  It's just like their 3d graphing.  They claim 3d graphing but you can't even graph a damn line with it!  Next they are going to go into the toilet paper business.  You get one little square with a hole in the middle of it.   
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 09, 2011, 02:41:57 am
From what I've seen, teachers generally tell students to stay away from Casios, because of the difficulty in getting students to understand using them.

The other issue is that a lot of teachers are not familiar with the Casios themselves, so they are unable to help the students with any questions they may have. If Casio were to offer schools good incentives for buying in bulk, things might change. They also should(Casio) offer workshops for free that teach teachers how to use the Prizm(if they don't already).
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 09, 2011, 02:47:09 am
From what I've seen, teachers generally tell students to stay away from Casios, because of the difficulty in getting students to understand using them.


They're actually easier to understand if you've never used a calculator before IMHO. Of course, most students have been corrupted by TI...

EDIT: z80man, calculators are usually banned in college math classes. They normally use Matlab, Maple, or Mathematica instead.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Munchor on May 09, 2011, 02:52:44 am
A video of the CX is available for download here (http://www.mediafire.com/?r98j803t8k8mxot), as requested by Scout.  ;)

Thanks a lot :D For the information and the video, it seems pretty cool :) Oh, and shiny!
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 09, 2011, 09:05:18 am
From what I've seen, teachers generally tell students to stay away from Casios, because of the difficulty in getting students to understand using them.


They're actually easier to understand if you've never used a calculator before IMHO. Of course, most students have been corrupted by TI...
Yeah. The Prizm was a bit easier for me to understand... We can see all the different applications in the main menu, but on the 84+ I didn't know how do draw graphs for at least a month because I didn't know which one of the over 9000 buttons did it. And from what I've heard, the Nspire is much worse...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: aeTIos on May 09, 2011, 11:09:23 am
Thanks for the info, Yunhua! The calc is as crippled as expected, imao (except the color screen).
We should do ndless for os 3.0 asap.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Deep Toaster on May 09, 2011, 03:43:25 pm
I got my hands on a CX on Thursday; unfortunately, this is the first time I've had a stable internet connection since then.  Once I got it, I opened it ASAP and charged it up and immediately began making my first program - a quadratic solver.  :P

:w00t:

The CX yielded some surprising and not-so-surprising information.  Anyway, it turns out I get a slidecase after all.  ;)

Yay, TI didn't take the dumb route!

- The CX includes a slide case

Good.

- Battery percentage is measured in increments of 25%

Reasonable. You don't really need anything more, lol.

- Length and width are very similar to an 84, but about half as wide

Nice, how does it feel in your pocket?

- Battery life is similar to a phone's  (or maybe I use it too much.  :P)

You probably do :P I doubt anyone outside this community replaces their batteries as often as we do.

- Shiny

:hyper:

- Light

Finally.

- Screen dims after a couple of minutes of no use

Sounds like a nice feature. Is there also Auto-Power DownTM?

- 115.2 MB of space left after OS is installed

That's great! I wonder if it could be used as a flash drive someday.

It's pretty much a handheld computer.  Turning on seems to take no time at all, but turning off does.

Awesome! You mean you don't have to wait ten seconds for it to turn on anymore? That really annoyed me on the Nspire.

As for this (http://ourl.ca/9451), the answer is definitely yes.  A video of the CX is available for download here (http://www.mediafire.com/?r98j803t8k8mxot), as requested by Scout.  ;)

* sigh... At least the specs are nice.

On a side note, I met program4 this weekend.  :D

Nice :D
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 09, 2011, 03:54:38 pm
- Length and width are very similar to an 84, but about half as wide

Nice, how does it feel in your pocket?

- Battery life is similar to a phone's  (or maybe I use it too much.  :P)

You probably do :P I doubt anyone outside this community replaces their batteries as often as we do.

- Screen dims after a couple of minutes of no use

Sounds like a nice feature. Is there also Auto-Power DownTM?

- 115.2 MB of space left after OS is installed

That's great! I wonder if it could be used as a flash drive someday.

It's pretty much a handheld computer.  Turning on seems to take no time at all, but turning off does.

Awesome! You mean you don't have to wait ten seconds for it to turn on anymore? That really annoyed me on the Nspire.

Lol, that's almost a perfect description of the Prizm, except for the part about 115.2 MB...
/me wonders if the Nspire CX is actually a Prizm with more memory :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Deep Toaster on May 09, 2011, 03:55:14 pm
What'd you think? :P

EDIT: It's a bit longer too, I guess.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 09, 2011, 03:56:52 pm
It's rather suspicious that mere months after Casio releases the Prizm, TI releases a "new" color calculator... ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Ashbad on May 09, 2011, 04:26:45 pm
We should do ndless for os 3.0 asap.

Easier said than done ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 04:55:40 pm
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.

As for battery life, does it supports AAA's or does it only use rechargeable batteries? I know on the Prizm they say the AAA batteries lasts 140 hours, but some people used theirs for much longer and the indicator still says they're full.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 09, 2011, 05:30:50 pm
AFAIK, it only supports its Lithium Ion Battery.
And yes, there is APD, you can even set the time before it APDs.

EDIT:  btw, there's a "Reset" Button on the back of the CX (the kind you stick a paper clip in to reset), presumably to allow teachers to reset calcs with ease.  I suggest covering it up with masking tape and write your name on it.  ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 06:50:47 pm
Ah ok. I wonder how fast batteries will be drained when Wi-fi is used... with the PSP it was insane...

How is the APD? ON the Prizm you can choose 10 minutes or 60, and you can set the LCD so after 30 seconds of non-use, it decreases to the lowest backlight level. The backlight doesn't turn OFF, though.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 09, 2011, 07:29:36 pm
Did ti fix the desolve bug or is it now in the cx also?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 07:49:19 pm
It seems they did for OS 3.0.2 that is upcoming http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1087

But I don't know if they fixed it in the CX yet.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 09, 2011, 07:53:17 pm
AFAIK, it only supports its Lithium Ion Battery.
And yes, there is APD, you can even set the time before it APDs.

EDIT:  btw, there's a "Reset" Button on the back of the CX (the kind you stick a paper clip in to reset), presumably to allow teachers to reset calcs with ease.  I suggest covering it up with masking tape and write your name on it.  ;)
The Prizm also has a reset button on its back, but it doesn't do much because the OS stores very little in RAM. How the Prizm does memory management is that when you create or edit a file it is stored in the MCS, which is a section of RAM. Then the next time you shut down the calc, the MCS is saved to flash. Plus unlike on the 84+ it's impossible to select between ram or flash storage. In other words it acts more like a real computer. So really the only way for a teacher to delete everything would be to delete the upper half of ROM which is the Mass storage mapped portion. This can be done from the memory menu, but through the use of hacks it is possible to save items in the lower half of ROM which is unaffected by archive clears.   
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 07:54:26 pm
So this is why shutting the calc down takes about 3 seconds and that when you pull a battery while a program is running you lose some progress, but not the entire RAM content?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 09, 2011, 07:54:31 pm
Ah ok. I wonder how fast batteries will be drained when Wi-fi is used... with the PSP it was insane...

How is the APD? ON the Prizm you can choose 10 minutes or 60, and you can set the LCD so after 30 seconds of non-use, it decreases to the lowest backlight level. The backlight doesn't turn OFF, though.
APD can be set to 1, 3, 5, 10, or 30 minutes.  Auto Dim can be set to.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 5 minutes

by the way, some times random squares of color appear on the screen until you click something.  but otherwise, the screen's quite nice.  ;)

And if you attempt to use a CAS-only function, there's an ad for the Nspire CX CAS.  :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 07:55:13 pm
Wait random squares? Could you take a picture or something? ???
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 09, 2011, 07:56:09 pm
I will as soon as it comes up again.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 09, 2011, 09:38:02 pm
"by the way, some times random squares of color appear on the screen until you click something.  but otherwise, the screen's quite nice.  ;)"

By random squares do you mean pixel size or something larger? :w00t:
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 09:46:01 pm
Is it just the screen glitching out? O.O
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: calc84maniac on May 09, 2011, 10:11:02 pm
I will laugh so hard if it turns out TI didn't properly set the cache settings for the screen buffer area
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 09, 2011, 11:29:38 pm
I will laugh so hard if calc84maniac then takes ten minutes to fix the problem, but is unable to implement it because TI refuses to release the signing keys.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Goplat on May 09, 2011, 11:51:21 pm
A way to test this would be to try to take a screenshot of the random squares using TI Computer Link (I think it just sends the contents of video memory, since I've been able to get screenshots of stuff left over from Ndless programs). If it's a cache issue, the glitches wouldn't appear in the screenshot.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 10, 2011, 01:22:56 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
And if you attempt to use a CAS-only function, there's an ad for the Nspire CX CAS.  :P
Is it "Have you seen the Nspire CX CAS"-style? :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 10, 2011, 01:28:54 am
I will as soon as I get the student software thingy set up, the CD keeps crashing my comp for some reason...  :P
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Is the student software cd still crashing your comp?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 10, 2011, 01:32:49 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
And if you attempt to use a CAS-only function, there's an ad for the Nspire CX CAS.  :P
Is it "Have you seen the Nspire CX CAS"-style? :P
What OS are you running on your computer. IT seems rather unlikely to have MSD issues, but at least it's better then TI Connect :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 10, 2011, 01:53:09 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
And if you attempt to use a CAS-only function, there's an ad for the Nspire CX CAS.  :P
Is it "Have you seen the Nspire CX CAS"-style? :P
What OS are you running on your computer. IT seems rather unlikely to have MSD issues, but at least it's better then TI Connect :P
I'm using Windows XP. I tried connecting it to my TV too (yes, it has USB :P) and it didn't work, but I eventually managed to make it work with Windows. It's still not working every time I do it, though.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 10, 2011, 05:50:30 pm
Hmm...  actually, it might be a cache issue, because as soon as you click something it disappears.  (Refreshing the screen)  and when it appears its always a block from the previous screen after switching screens.

as for the ad is like "Function not supported, try the Nspire CX CAS"
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: apcalc on May 10, 2011, 05:57:24 pm
I'm pretty sure that Nspire CAS thing has been there since OS 1.1
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2011, 05:57:33 pm
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
And if you attempt to use a CAS-only function, there's an ad for the Nspire CX CAS.  :P
Is it "Have you seen the Nspire CX CAS"-style? :P
Ah ok weird. Hopefully it doesn't get worse with the time as the Prizm gets more popular. But again I had the same thing happen with certain USB flash drives before.

And Yunhua98 you really oughta make a screenshot or video showing it. I can't really understand from the description, because I am more visual.  But in other words, it's some sort of screen display glitch, right?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 11, 2011, 01:34:05 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
Ah ok weird. Hopefully it doesn't get worse with the time as the Prizm gets more popular. But again I had the same thing happen with certain USB flash drives before.
I was using the USB cable I got from TI earlier. I've switched to using the Casio cable now, and it works every time ;D
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 11, 2011, 02:41:05 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
Ah ok weird. Hopefully it doesn't get worse with the time as the Prizm gets more popular. But again I had the same thing happen with certain USB flash drives before.
I was using the USB cable I got from TI earlier. I've switched to using the Casio cable now, and it works every time ;D
Oh silly TI. You even make your usb cables buggy. It just wouldn't be TI if there were no bugs.

btw Has anyone else gotten a bug on their Prizm in which everything will freeze for a couple of seconds then return to normal. it doesn't seem as if the calc is frozen, but as if the keyboard input is.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2011, 02:50:20 am
Note: From what I remember, the CX doesn't support MSD mode, meaning you still need to get through the hassle of using a connectivity software to transfer files between your calculator and the computer and forums are still gonna get flooded with "Calc not detected by computer" help threads. The Prizm supports mass storage device mode.
To be honest, I've been having some trounble with making my computer detect my Prizm... But it's still much easier to use that the route TI chose.
Ah ok weird. Hopefully it doesn't get worse with the time as the Prizm gets more popular. But again I had the same thing happen with certain USB flash drives before.
I was using the USB cable I got from TI earlier. I've switched to using the Casio cable now, and it works every time ;D
O.O


btw Has anyone else gotten a bug on their Prizm in which everything will freeze for a couple of seconds then return to normal. it doesn't seem as if the calc is frozen, but as if the keyboard input is.
Nope, not yet. I got that on my TI-Nspire, though, and everything was frozen. It happened when running a BASIC loop. The keypad responded slowly
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 11, 2011, 02:54:44 am
btw Has anyone else gotten a bug on their Prizm in which everything will freeze for a couple of seconds then return to normal. it doesn't seem as if the calc is frozen, but as if the keyboard input is.

I've only seen it when I disable the cache. What were you doing that caused it?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 11, 2011, 03:02:13 am
Nothing it just happens at random. Sometimes within Insight other times in the OS. It can really happen at any time and place/
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AngelFish on May 11, 2011, 03:04:20 am
Hm, that's certainly odd. I haven't experienced it with my Prizm, though.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 11, 2011, 03:07:10 am
Hm, that's certainly odd. I haven't experienced it with my Prizm, though.
I can think of only two things that could of caused it. The overclocking app back from January or the LAN party ;)

Well I believe the person with the most similar Prizm to mine is FinaleTI's because our serial numbers are only about a hundred off. But then again I've barely heard anything thing from him yet about the Prizm ??? So I don't know if he has the same issue
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 12, 2011, 04:27:54 pm
Oh, probably just a TI coding overlook, but the cursor erases a column of pixles behind it when its flashing, but once you move the cursor, it comes back.  I'll make screenies of these glitches over the weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 04:47:24 pm
Ok cool to hear.

Also OS 3.0.1 takes a friggin long while to boot! O.O (the loading bar took about 25 seconds to complete)

 By the way on the Nspire Clickpad OS 3.0, I noticed some weird menu glitch. Go to My documents then press Menu. If you move down,  the menu shrinks down in size, but traces of the larger one remains behind until you press menu again. Reopening the menu again after pressing Esc doesn't trigger the bug again, but if you go back to the Home menu then return to my documents, it can be triggered again.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 12, 2011, 08:10:42 pm
Ti has recently acknowledged OS 3.0 problems with complex numbers and the linear algebra library.  See:

http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/nonProductSingle/updatenspire30.html

They don't give any specifics on what problems the bugs are causing. 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 09:02:59 pm
Yeah I saw a few days ago. Also the calc bricking issue that is mentionned lies about when the bug is triggered. They claim if we used our calc and it worked fine, then we should have no problem. Yet, it's after the next reboot that problems can occur.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 13, 2011, 01:09:56 am
Yeah I saw a few days ago. Also the calc bricking issue that is mentionned lies about when the bug is triggered. They claim if we used our calc and it worked fine, then we should have no problem. Yet, it's after the next reboot that problems can occur.

What I find truly amazing is that including development time for the original nspire ti has been pouring money down the nspire rathole for about five(!) years now and they still can't get the product right.  From the marketing insanity of turning their back on the developers who helped them become successful, to not being able to produce quality software, to having a keyboard thats the shitz, and now OS 3.0 which in addition to the bricking, by ti's own admission has screwed up solving differential equations, symbolic integration, solving limits, the cZero function, the cSolve function and the linear algebra library.  Wow! All these screw ups taken collectively is a monumental disaster that can only be produced by truly incompetent people making terrible decisions.  Surely TI corporate head quarters can not continue to fund this disaster much longer and it's unbelievable that the teachers on the google site still have some sort of commitment to this sinking ship!  Spending and perhaps wasting the publics money on nspire equipment is probably going to be a career ending decision for some of those teachers.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: z80man on May 13, 2011, 02:45:11 am
Hm, that's certainly odd. I haven't experienced it with my Prizm, though.
I can think of only two things that could of caused it. The overclocking app back from January or the LAN party ;)

Well I believe the person with the most similar Prizm to mine is FinaleTI's because our serial numbers are only about a hundred off. But then again I've barely heard anything thing from him yet about the Prizm ??? So I don't know if he has the same issue
I found what is was. It was just the exe button getting stuck some times. No bugs :)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 13, 2011, 08:59:58 am
@Dingus: It boggles my mind as well. TI could have made a remarkable product, yet they made a device with a horrible display, cheap interchangeable keypads that are prone to wear and tear, and software that has been continually plagued with bugs. Not to mention that their older models that have been around for years are more programmable out of the box than their newest and most advanced calculator.

/me sighs.

It really is a shame. :(
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 13, 2011, 09:57:20 am
@Dingus: It boggles my mind as well. TI could have made a remarkable product, yet they made a device with a horrible display, cheap interchangeable keypads that are prone to wear and tear, and software that has been continually plagued with bugs. Not to mention that their older models that have been around for years are more programmable out of the box than their newest and most advanced calculator.
  /me sighs.
It really is a shame. :(

Yeah, I would have bought a new ti-89 or voyage with a color screen and 3d graphing in a heart beat.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 13, 2011, 10:45:22 am
I found what is was. It was just the exe button getting stuck some times. No bugs :)
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How do you fix that?  So that the button stops sticking.  I have a similiar problem with my voyage200. 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Deep Toaster on May 13, 2011, 11:28:35 am
Quote from: Dingus
Ti has recently acknowledged OS 3.0 problems with complex numbers and the linear algebra library.  See:

http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/nonProductSingle/updatenspire30.html

They don't give any specifics on what problems the bugs are causing.

TI makes mistakes? O.O

They finally acknowledged their own bugs. Hope they do that before they release the software in the future.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: BrownyTCat on May 13, 2011, 11:35:04 am
Quote from: Dingus
Ti has recently acknowledged OS 3.0 problems with complex numbers and the linear algebra library.  See:

http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/nonProductSingle/updatenspire30.html

They don't give any specifics on what problems the bugs are causing.

TI makes mistakes? O.O

They finally acknowledged their own bugs. Hope they do that before they release the software in the future.

"Everyone makes mistakes.", Luckily TI admitted theirs.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 13, 2011, 06:07:39 pm
That is a first for modern TI. They didn't even bother trying to blame these bugs on us this time
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 14, 2011, 07:11:31 pm
Well, at least this bug was not blamed on the TI community people, unlike the calc bricking one. For the calc bricking bug, TI employees pretty much blamed it on TI-BANK team and TNOC software, while TNOC pretty much protected your calc from it and TI-BANK encouraged its use. 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 14, 2011, 09:13:27 pm
I just noticed that Underwood Distributing says they can ship the nspire cx and will be able to ship the nspire cx cas starting next monday.  I wonder if it contains the desolve bug and similiar unwanted goodies? 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 14, 2011, 09:18:20 pm
It would probably contain lots of nice goodies for whoever gets it.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 15, 2011, 02:33:25 am
Yeah, but at least it won't brick calcs since the OS is installed out of the box.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 15, 2011, 02:36:27 am
Unless there's a not yet discovered bug that bricks the CX's in the OS
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 15, 2011, 04:03:56 pm
In ti's own words "An update to TI-Nspire version 3.0 will be available by mid-May."
See: http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/nonProductSingle/updatenspire30.html
And mid May is when?  By my calculations in a few hours we will see whether or not they can be believed when they make a committment. 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 15, 2011, 04:40:48 pm
Don't expect it to be online in a few hours, according to informations made publicly available in the official french forum.

The tests took more time than expected, and the OS has to go through the validation process (which is long with TI: one week to remove the 3.0 OS...).

The person who wrote about this was mentionning next week, or even the week after.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 15, 2011, 04:43:37 pm
I was right in my guess. I figured the new OS wouldn't be out before the 20th. lets see if I'm wrong
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Dingus on May 15, 2011, 09:09:27 pm
Don't expect it to be online in a few hours, according to informations made publicly available in the official french forum.
The tests took more time than expected, and the OS has to go through the validation process (which is long with TI: one week to remove the 3.0 OS...).
The person who wrote about this was mentionning next week, or even the week after.

I guess I shouldn't be surprized by what you say and I shouldn't be surprized that TI's announcement of mid-May is still on their site because they clearly have no respect for the people who read their site and TI obviously ignores them when it is convenient to do so.  No wonder everyone are so upset with TI!  In my mind, TI deserves all the criticism that has been directed at them and even more.

It is clear to me that TI's nspire products are vastly over rated, that TI has shown that they cannot be trusted to do what they say they will do, that the quality of their software is unacceptable, that the performance of their products is lacking, and last but not least their keyboard design is terrible.  Sadly todays TI is not of the quality that it used to be, nor is it's products, and I am going to warn the people I know to think twice before buying a CX or CX cas before they know what it's problems are because that is a lot of money to waste. 
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2011, 11:38:08 pm
Something I don't understand is how people like Yunhua got a TI-Nspire CX when it's not even out yet? ???

Also I am starting to wonder if the OS 3.0.2 thing will not end up being released like in half a year, delay after delay...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: calc84maniac on May 15, 2011, 11:46:50 pm
Something I don't understand is how people like Yunhua got a TI-Nspire CX when it's not even out yet? ???
Well, he got it from a math competition which had some prizes sponsored by TI.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 19, 2011, 01:20:52 pm
Oh ok, that makes sense then. I hope it wasn't a prototype, so he can upgrade later.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 19, 2011, 02:47:43 pm
Oh ok, that makes sense then. I hope it wasn't a prototype, so he can upgrade later.
I was worried about this^

When I checked, Mathcounts didn't give SEs or Nspire Clickpads until a year after they came out, but they gave the CXs before they came out.  TI seems to really be trying to promote the CX.

Also, if the CX I got was specifically made for the contest, then the ones that aren't may still not come with a slidecase...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 19, 2011, 02:48:39 pm
Oh that too X.x, I didn't think about that

Anyway any pics or video of that LCD glitch Yunhua? ???
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 19, 2011, 02:57:37 pm
I never had a camera on me when the glitch happened, but it would look something like this, as if there were a hole in the screen showing part of the previous page you were on.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Munchor on May 19, 2011, 02:59:10 pm
That sounds horrible bug :S
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 19, 2011, 02:59:18 pm
I never had a camera on me when the glitch happened, but it would look something like this, as if there were a hole in the screen showing part of the previous page you were on.
Are the borders around the screen intentional by TI?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 19, 2011, 03:06:34 pm
what borders?

thats just the scratch pad borders, the black behind it is part of the screen too.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 19, 2011, 11:59:52 pm
Fail on their part again X.x. They can't even support a color screen right, lol.

They need to spend more time fixing bugs than trying to eliminate our community.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 20, 2011, 08:26:16 am
Epic Fail TI. Give us the keys and we will make your OS's >9000x better and have them work
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 21, 2011, 03:53:57 am
I guess that's to expected when they're so used to only using monochrome screens, though. Casio at least had a bit of experience with color LCDs, as their first ever color calc dates back in 1996. :P

But still... sad that they couldn't even do the color calc display right O.O
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 21, 2011, 05:36:54 am
I never had a camera on me when the glitch happened, but it would look something like this, as if there were a hole in the screen showing part of the previous page you were on.

I have this constantly with my nspire clickpad, running 3.01
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 21, 2011, 09:16:05 am
So this could just be an os glitch?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: JosJuice on May 21, 2011, 09:17:40 am
Yep, yet another stupid bug that they didn't bother fixing. Sigh...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 26, 2011, 01:39:23 pm
Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AGVolnutt on May 26, 2011, 01:42:04 pm
Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125

Where did you get that?

I believe that the first poster's picture is of the emulator, right?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 26, 2011, 01:43:36 pm
Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125

Where did you get that?

A gift from TI


I believe that the first poster's picture is of the emulator, right?

All photos are real.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 26, 2011, 01:44:32 pm
Can I have one too? :P
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Munchor on May 26, 2011, 01:45:09 pm
Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125

All those look great :)


Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125

Where did you get that?

A gift from TI

Wait a minute, for free?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AGVolnutt on May 26, 2011, 01:49:27 pm

A gift from TI


Lucky. Is it limited in anyway? Such as upgrading or functionality? I heard that the demo CAS models (leaked ones) couldn't be upgraded.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on May 26, 2011, 01:51:17 pm
It's not a prototype as far as I know.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 26, 2011, 01:54:59 pm
What Critor????? O.O

Lucky man lol. Nice though.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Munchor on May 26, 2011, 01:55:30 pm
But how did you guys get free CXs? Damn; i want one too :D
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AGVolnutt on May 26, 2011, 01:55:41 pm
Oooh. Fancy!

Did they just randomly send it to you on a whim or was it a requirement you had to meet?

I did hear that there was a sweepstakes on Facebook a while back.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 26, 2011, 01:59:00 pm
From what I can gather, it's because he is testing the new Lua scripting tools from them, but I could be wrong. It could also be in response to the controvesy they caused on TI-BANK and Univers-TI-Nspire a month ago, which almost lead to TI-BANK shut down.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: AGVolnutt on May 26, 2011, 02:22:13 pm
From what I can gather, it's because he is testing the new Lua scripting tools from them, but I could be wrong. It could also be in response to the controvesy they caused on TI-BANK and Univers-TI-Nspire a month ago, which almost lead to TI-BANK shut down.

OffT: :O What was this controversy about?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: BrownyTCat on May 26, 2011, 02:23:09 pm
I'm in a dilemna of whether to try to get the SDK or stick in OS2.1
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Levak on May 26, 2011, 02:35:24 pm
But how did you guys get free CXs? Damn; i want one too :D
We signed NDA agreements though.
Again, TI sent us the right tool to work on Lua, since we are a "Lua reference" as they say.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: yunhua98 on May 26, 2011, 05:58:02 pm
wow...

oh well, I'll see if I can pay half price for my math coach's CX CAS.  XD
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: ruler501 on May 26, 2011, 06:01:03 pm
I don't know anyone who has an Nspire IRL other than me. I'd love to get more so I can have one with 3.0.2 and one with 2.0.1
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Munchor on May 27, 2011, 12:45:26 pm
I don't know anyone who has an Nspire IRL other than me. I'd love to get more so I can have one with 3.0.2 and one with 2.0.1

Just like me, even though I have a nspire, never tried Lua in OS 3, nor OS 3 itself.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 27, 2011, 12:51:51 pm
3.01 isn't so bad if you TNOC it, you can always switch back if you dislike it.
Its fun to experiment that way.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Cuervo on May 27, 2011, 02:20:14 pm
They seem to be quite expensive..

Non-CAS: http://www.taschenrechner.de/xxlpage/index.php?page=ProductDetails&event=&aid=1516&kid=28 (http://www.taschenrechner.de/xxlpage/index.php?page=ProductDetails&event=&aid=1516&kid=28) (129,95 € (about 185 USD))
CAS: http://www.taschenrechner.de/xxlpage/index.php?page=ProductDetails&event=ShowD&aid=1500&kid=29 (http://www.taschenrechner.de/xxlpage/index.php?page=ProductDetails&event=ShowD&aid=1500&kid=29) (149,95 € (about 213 USD))

Both not available yet.


I got my TI-nspire CAS Touchpad with Teacher-Software for 69 € (about 100 USD) last year..

I want a CX, too.. -.-


Cuervo
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Levak on May 27, 2011, 02:28:51 pm
The CX is cheaper than the previous models in average.


edit : thanks Adriweb x)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Adriweb on May 28, 2011, 04:53:32 pm
(fail @Levak : 'average')

And yes, my CX CAS also has this bug, but it's only doing it when moving the cursor with the TouchPad.... so their mouse routine isn't bug-free ^^
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 28, 2011, 04:59:49 pm
@Critor: Very nice pictures and article on TI-Bank by the way. =)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on June 04, 2011, 04:27:33 pm
Unlike what Levak was saying, the CX's CPU seems to be a little more overclocked...

Have a look at the chart:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1152
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 04, 2011, 04:35:17 pm
Hmm interesting. You know, sometimes I'm thinking about changing my mind and getting a CX anyway. I probably won't use it that much but I got many calc models anyway. I'm just still a bit relunctant to pay so much for a calc when I got my Prizm and TI-Nspire clickpad for $130 each...
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on June 08, 2011, 07:24:28 pm
The maintenance menu is still there and now in color!

Check the first photos here:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1162
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Ashbad on June 08, 2011, 07:41:38 pm
Hmm interesting. You know, sometimes I'm thinking about changing my mind and getting a CX anyway. I probably won't use it that much but I got many calc models anyway. I'm just still a bit relunctant to pay so much for a calc when I got my Prizm and TI-Nspire clickpad for $130 each...

Well if you're gonna keep up with Kerm with your highly awesome calculator set, then you better buy one ;) (though his is composed of like 20 83+'s, while yours is like one of every kind imaginable)
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: BrownyTCat on June 08, 2011, 09:20:00 pm
The CX is cheaper than the previous models in average.


edit : thanks Adriweb x)
Mean, median, or mode? Mean is most common and logical in most cases so I assumed that.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: Deep Toaster on June 08, 2011, 09:42:33 pm
Lots of photos of my new TI-Nspire CX CAS!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1125
Where did you get that?
A gift from TI
:o Lucky O.O Why? :P What are you planning to do with it? ;D
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on June 11, 2011, 10:20:39 am
Some photos of the new TI-Nspire CX diagnostics software for you! :)
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1168
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on June 24, 2011, 07:47:50 pm
I've opened the CX CAS for you! :)

Let's have a look inside it together:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1213
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2011, 07:52:35 pm
Awesome stuff critor! Sorry I didn't check this topic for a while.

I'm really glad they're making their calcs smaller now.

But I'm unsure if I want to pay close to $200 for one x.x
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 14, 2011, 03:33:14 pm
Small notice for those who hate dead pixels: My CX already has one O.O

Note: I didn't drop it or anything. I played a lot of games on it, though. So far my Prizm has no dead pixels but my CX already has one after only 3-4 months of use. It's in the top left corner so it's hard to notice, especially when not looking at the screen at 90° angle and due to the fact it's on the gray/black title bar, but I was still kinda surprised considering the calc is much newer than my Prizm and was used less.
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: critor on November 14, 2011, 03:37:31 pm
Could you show us a photo?
Title: Re: New Nspire CX Info
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 14, 2011, 03:53:32 pm
Here we go: (both are at slightly different angles)