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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #180 on: July 19, 2010, 11:25:54 pm »
I would love to have the CAS OS on the non CAS.

It is one of the most anti-TI things we can do. ;)


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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #181 on: July 20, 2010, 12:37:00 am »
However, if we persisted in wanting to install the CAS on our non-CAS, it would make TI even less willing to give the TI community more freedom (not that they would, but it would be worse). Plus, if TI saw this as a threat for their sales, they could simply drop out of the calc market and guess what would happen to the TI community...
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #182 on: July 20, 2010, 12:48:46 am »
Considering that there entire sales platform is the nspire, then it would be problematic if the cas software were to be available to non-cas users.

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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #183 on: July 20, 2010, 12:55:02 am »
Well, not really their entire sales. From what I can see, Ticalc.org 83+ downloads are still quite high and many new members who join Omnimaga got 83+ or 84+ calcs. I think the 83+ serie is still the most sold one right now. I doubt the 84+ will be discontinued anytime soon, either, because they just released a new OS a few months ago. I have doubts about the regular 83+ in long terms, though. They'll probably discontinue it then in 4 years they'll re-release it as the TI-82 PLUS STATS or the TI-82 STATS PLUS in Europe, with the only difference being the name (like they did with the TI-82 STATS)
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #184 on: July 20, 2010, 01:56:17 am »
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By installing a CAS on a non-CAS you would kinda be stealing $45 from TI, depending of where you bought your machine.
Or looking at it the other way round, we could say that TI is charging a premium of [$45 + price of 84+ ClickPad keyboard] from those who buy a Nspire CAS.

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I would love to have the CAS OS on the non CAS.
It is one of the most anti-TI things we can do. ;)
Indeed. And TI's attacks on the community are making it more likely that this occurs.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #185 on: July 20, 2010, 02:08:07 am »
We should just write (or more likely, port) our own CAS for the non-CAS. Then TI would have nothing to say.

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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #186 on: July 20, 2010, 02:44:55 am »
That would be an idea as well. Altough for that, we need to factor the keys...

For now, there is already a CAS for the regular Nspire, though, called mCAS, on TI-BANK. I don't know if it's available in english, though.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #187 on: July 20, 2010, 10:20:17 am »
We can also port at least the math portion of one of the numerous open-source CAS programs out there, and write a new interface for it.

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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #188 on: July 21, 2010, 03:02:18 pm »
Btw I think that Nelson Sousa guy on the TI-Nspire Google group is not any better than the people who commented on Slashdot. He bashes TI-BANK claiming the forums is useless (quite ironic considering it's listed in his website links section http://www.nelsonsousa.pt/index.php?lang=en&cat=4&subcat=0&article=0 ). To me, though, he seems like a troll, so he should probably be ignored. I think the way he replied to TI-BANK admin speaks by itself: http://tibank.forumactif.com/blabla-f18/crachons-sur-ti-bank-t5814.htm

It kinda reminds me someone with the initials KK, who always seemed against Nspire dev. As the guys on TI-BANK said, I think the guy is just jealous TI-BANK is successful. I could not find his forum, though, if he has one.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #189 on: July 21, 2010, 03:08:02 pm »
This is ridiculous.  TI, you shouldn't be disallowing the freedom to run whatever OS we want to run on your devices we bought.  I hope we can remove these protections. :(

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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #190 on: July 21, 2010, 03:10:22 pm »
Nelson Sousa acted much worse than the Slashdot commenters: he wrote a post full of flamebait, cluelessness, disrespect and even slander, all that while explicitly starting by "I don't want to start a flame war". My foot.
See also http://ourl.ca/6377/103814 . Nelson Sousa is a TI shill, we don't need to interact more with such persons.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #191 on: July 21, 2010, 03:25:31 pm »
Yeah I just saw :/

Back on the topic of TI, remember this pic? ::)



Now check http://www.facebook.com/pages/Texas-Instruments-France/132142133466165

I guess I was right that TI would censor the comments, eh?

Also, Critor's previous FB account got shut down a few days ago, apparently. See the post on TI-BANK. http://tibank.forumactif.com/blabla-f18/ti-fait-desactiver-mon-compte-fb-t5818.htm

Did Critor sent way too many invites at once, annoying people on FB? Or did TI got his account shutted down? I know invite spam (if Critor even did that at all) can be reported on Facebook and get you deleted, but don't you find it ironic this happens right after he posted the truth on TI page? Idk if it's really a coincidence...

Btw he got a new account, now, but he had to re-add all his friends...
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #192 on: July 21, 2010, 03:30:07 pm »
TI, TI...
I'm reminded of how Apple deleted threads relating to reception problems on iPhones.
TI is indeed going the way of Apple.
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #193 on: July 21, 2010, 03:43:50 pm »
From what I saw, it must've been TI that shut down his account, complaining that he "posted to much on their wall".
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Re: Nspire 2.1 out, don't install it!
« Reply #194 on: July 21, 2010, 03:44:17 pm »
Yeah,

don't get me wrong: Omnimaga has strict rules on trolling and unnecessary provocative/narrow-minded comments, but it doesn't mean I'm for censorship or stuff like that. In fact, the new Omni board even has a staff policy disallowing the deletion of someone else's post except illegal content (the rest of the post is kept intact). It's up to the user to delete/edit his posts (if he doesn't then he just ruins his rep, that's all). TI is going way too far IMHO. Again, it's their Facebook page, but their action shows they want to hide the truth revealed by a bunch of customers from their other customers. :/
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