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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: ztrumpet on February 10, 2011, 05:23:08 pm

Title: NSpire Rumors
Post by: ztrumpet on February 10, 2011, 05:23:08 pm
As rumored by one of our members, qazz42, it appears that there's something big happening to the NSpire soon.  (See this topic (http://ourl.ca/9088))  It could be anything: so far no details have been "leaked" to the community, other than something will happen.  This claim has not been backed up, but it has not been rebuked either.  In a letter from Texas Instruments to NETWizz, one of the founders of United TI, (here (http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=efa074b563b1a9f3f3c777cef13969f2&showtopic=9649)) it appears that this rumor may have some truth to it.  Though TI is secretive, the announcement will be made sometime around Winter Break for most Americans (February or March).  This letter also indicates that TI would like to add programming capabilities to the NSpire, but this may be a ploy to attract more customers.  With all this information, however, it's safe to say that something's going to happen to the NSpire soon, perhaps a new OS.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Snake X on February 10, 2011, 05:25:06 pm
definitely a new os for sure nomatter what. :D I cant believe all our emails are paying off :)
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Ashbad on February 10, 2011, 05:25:33 pm
who knows if it means the emails paid off positively though :P
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Yeong on February 10, 2011, 05:42:17 pm
I hope it's OS because otherwise, I would have to get a new one D:
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Snake X on February 10, 2011, 05:48:33 pm
well they payed off as in they actually recognize something from us and they are seeing how we are asking a lot of stuff related about it in basically one setting.. kinda
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 10, 2011, 06:05:52 pm
I was surprised TI even gave such answer. I hope it's not a lure to attract more customers when in fact the new programming function is just extending the battery life by 1 minute.

But again, maybe this is in response to the Prizm.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Yeong on February 10, 2011, 06:08:16 pm
If that happens, I WILL spam TI with "I <3 Prizm" message... >:D
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: holmes221b on February 10, 2011, 06:10:31 pm
If that happens, I WILL spam TI with "I <3 Prizm" message... >:D
And I will laugh my head off when you get sued by TI for being a nuisance.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Ashbad on February 10, 2011, 06:32:57 pm
and I will laugh when TI loses ;D
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: jnesselr on February 10, 2011, 06:53:48 pm
and I will laugh when TI loses ;D
<Elaborate offtopic court scene>
Prosecutor: Yes, your honor.  Exhibit A.  A freaky looking picture asking "Daddy, would you like some sausages?"
Sean Connery: Objection your honor, I would not like some sausages, and I doubt Mr. Ashbad would either.
Prosecutor: Then you admit defeat!
Sean Connery: Never!
Richard Stallman: Cease this affront to freedom, or stand and fight!
TI: We will fight! (Pulls out two NSwords from their trust NSpire)
Judge: okay, who wants lunch?
Not to be continued...
</Elaborate offtopic court scene>

This is to show how much hope I have for Ashbad winning that case, and is therefore, mostly not but sorta kinda randomness.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 10, 2011, 07:18:18 pm
Don't you mean yeongJIN_COOL winning the case?
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Ashbad on February 10, 2011, 07:52:46 pm
and I will laugh when TI loses ;D
<Elaborate offtopic court scene>
Prosecutor: Yes, your honor.  Exhibit A.  A freaky looking picture asking "Daddy, would you like some sausages?"
Sean Connery: Objection your honor, I would not like some sausages, and I doubt Mr. Ashbad would either.
Prosecutor: Then you admit defeat!
Sean Connery: Never!
Richard Stallman: Cease this affront to freedom, or stand and fight!
TI: We will fight! (Pulls out two NSwords from their trust NSpire)
Judge: okay, who wants lunch?
Not to be continued...
</Elaborate offtopic court scene>

This is to show how much hope I have for Ashbad winning that case, and is therefore, mostly not but sorta kinda randomness.

>:( actually I would like tom green to give me sausages >:(

lol jk ;D

but yeah back on topic, do you think the Nspire will now support more open asm development?
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: z80man on February 10, 2011, 08:22:24 pm
TI wouldn't give open asm support. It would be more like a limited c compiler sdk, but why would we even need this if we already have ndless.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Snake X on February 10, 2011, 09:36:52 pm
im sure if we hacked the Nspire without anything from TI, I bet we could do even more with what can be done natively :)
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: aeTIos on February 11, 2011, 09:36:19 am
im sure if we hacked the Nspire without anything from TI, I bet we could do even more with what can be done natively :)
You mean, jailbreak the NSpire? that would be nice :D
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 11, 2011, 03:32:39 pm
TI wouldn't give open asm support. It would be more like a limited c compiler sdk, but why would we even need this if we already have ndless.
Like what has been said before, C gets compiled to asm, so if TI has C support, they have no way to block asm. They could certainly disourage it, by not including asm tools in their SDK, but they can't block it.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 17, 2011, 11:45:46 pm
Does C allow someone to do every single things possible in ASM?
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: ruler501 on February 17, 2011, 11:53:23 pm
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 17, 2011, 11:55:35 pm
My real concern, though, is that if they decide to release a SDK, will it be free? When they released the TI-83+ SDK (Flash Debugger) in 1999, it was not free until 2003 or so. Hence why almost all old ASM games on ticalc.org are not APPs.

Also I still hope for an Axe-like language (on-calc programmable) for the TI-Nspire
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: ruler501 on February 17, 2011, 11:58:23 pm
That would be great but I still want it in a language I know
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 18, 2011, 03:57:59 am
Do you mean the SDK? From what I gather, it would most likely be ARM ASM or C. As for Axe, it would be nice for 83+/Casio BASIC coders who can't stand C and 68k/nspire BASIC syntax.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: z80man on February 18, 2011, 04:03:37 am
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
Languages like python would be hard to implement because they are interpreted. Not that the nspire couldn't handle that, but it takes a lot of memory and is difficult to program. I would agree with DJ that an SDK would be either ASM or C. For a relatively simple device like a calculator you don't need very high level languages.   
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: ruler501 on February 18, 2011, 08:21:13 am
Ruler will take a nice C/C++ Programming. That would be good
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 18, 2011, 08:50:22 am
Does C allow someone to do every single things possible in ASM?
I'm pretty sure there is asm subroutines.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Lionel Debroux on February 18, 2011, 08:59:36 am
There's no C equivalent for a number of low-level processor instructions. And even inline ASM is not enough in some cases (peculiar calling conventions, etc.).
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: AngelFish on February 18, 2011, 09:34:55 am
I hope they open this calculator up more. It has a tremendous capability if we can program it (Ndless certainly helps)
Even though I will not update my OS before I know it is not some kind of an evil ploy by TI to block Ndless and games.

8ruler wishes very hard for a nice python programming for his Nspire
Languages like python would be hard to implement because they are interpreted. Not that the nspire couldn't handle that, but it takes a lot of memory and is difficult to program. I would agree with DJ that an SDK would be either ASM or C. For a relatively simple device like a calculator you don't need very high level languages.   

You should preface that with "On an Nspire,"

I write Python for my TI-81 quite regularly.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: fb39ca4 on February 18, 2011, 09:54:44 am
There's no C equivalent for a number of low-level processor instructions. And even inline ASM is not enough in some cases (peculiar calling conventions, etc.).
I just mean asm code that is typed inside a C program. A few many of the subroutines that come with ndless use that.
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: qazz42 on February 18, 2011, 02:47:29 pm
Idk, perhaps it is a color nspire? With C and asm? Computer like resolution?
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 18, 2011, 09:34:55 pm
Or maybe in response to complaints about OS 2.1 size, OS 3.0 will remove 84+ emulation. O.O
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Goplat on February 18, 2011, 11:43:15 pm
Casio and TI are teaming up to create a new graphing calc, with the most limited programming capabilities to date. It's going to be called the PrizN. Advertising will largely be targeted at educational institutions and will feature the slogan "Kids can't handle too much freedom. This semester, send them to a PrizN."
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 18, 2011, 11:44:13 pm
I wonder what the N would stand for. O.O
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: Darl181 on February 19, 2011, 01:18:58 am
Noob? (after all, TI would be a part of it) :P
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 19, 2011, 03:24:24 am
Maybe that. :P
Title: Re: NSpire Rumors
Post by: TIfanx1999 on February 19, 2011, 07:55:28 am
Casio and TI are teaming up to create a new graphing calc, with the most limited programming capabilities to date. It's going to be called the PrizN. Advertising will largely be targeted at educational institutions and will feature the slogan "Kids can't handle too much freedom. This semester, send them to a PrizN."

It will also have a horrible LCD that is barely legible, even for use in maths. :P

I wonder what the N would stand for. O.O

@DJ: PrizN is wordplay on Prison. ;D

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