Post by: Netham45 on October 12, 2011, 08:08:58 am
Along with the bug that was causing it to flood the server with requests being fixed, it now updates text in the status bar!
Of course, the web chat will remain available for all who wish to use it at http://webchat.omnimaga.org (http://webchat.omnimaga.org) or in the navigation bar of Omnimaga.
Post by: Yeong on October 12, 2011, 08:12:16 am
Post by: aeTIos on October 12, 2011, 08:12:30 am
Post by: Sorunome on October 12, 2011, 08:12:51 am
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on October 12, 2011, 08:35:59 am
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 12, 2011, 09:34:31 am
Post by: Netham45 on October 12, 2011, 09:37:19 am
Post by: Munchor on October 12, 2011, 09:38:28 am
Yay! What do you mean by the status bar? The browser status bar?
Yes it seems like it's that. However, many browsers don't have it like Chrome.
Good updates Netham!
EDIT: Also I'm getting 1 Chrome notification for every Omnimaga tab open :P
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 12, 2011, 10:00:20 am
Post by: Juju on October 12, 2011, 01:09:48 pm
Also the status bar thing doesn't work for all browsers I think. Just so you know.
Post by: Jonius7 on October 12, 2011, 03:30:29 pm
Post by: Netham45 on October 12, 2011, 04:02:27 pm
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 12, 2011, 04:22:06 pm
Post by: Netham45 on October 12, 2011, 04:24:32 pm
Post by: Jim Bauwens on October 12, 2011, 04:26:14 pm
Post by: boot2490 on October 12, 2011, 04:29:35 pm
Post by: ralphdspam on October 12, 2011, 05:24:15 pm
It might just be a problem with IE7, though. :P
Post by: ztrumpet on October 12, 2011, 05:26:52 pm
/fail
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 12, 2011, 05:55:07 pm
EDIT: Raplhdspam unfortunately IE8 and below is no longer supported on Omnimaga, as it became impossible to add new features while still getting the site to work fine in those browsers.
Post by: ralphdspam on October 12, 2011, 07:38:10 pm
EDIT: Raplhdspam unfortunately IE8 and below is no longer supported on Omnimaga, as it became impossible to add new features while still getting the site to work fine in those browsers.Ah. that is fine. At least the site works on my Kindle now.
I will just have to get firefox on my flash drive then
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 18, 2011, 07:35:11 pm
Post by: boot2490 on October 20, 2011, 11:48:42 am
Use firefox portable or something!
Post by: Yeong on October 20, 2011, 11:50:08 am
Post by: boot2490 on October 20, 2011, 11:50:34 am
Post by: ztrumpet on October 20, 2011, 03:22:44 pm
/me is installing firefox in every school computer he sits on. No one care XDLucky. I can't install anything at school because I need administrative rights to do so. D:
Post by: JustCause on October 20, 2011, 04:16:59 pm
Raplhdspam unfortunately IE8 and below is no longer supported on Omnimaga, as it became impossible to add new features while still getting the site to work fine in those browsers.
At least the site works on my Kindle now.
Kindle > IE
Proof.
Post by: boot2490 on October 20, 2011, 05:48:55 pm
IMHO.
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 20, 2011, 06:54:41 pm
Post by: imo_inx on October 20, 2011, 07:01:09 pm
Chrome > Firefox > IE > Opera.Opera is better than everything! It's your fault because Opera is almost fully customizable.
The simple truth.
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 20, 2011, 07:05:30 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 20, 2011, 08:46:50 pm
Post by: boot2490 on October 20, 2011, 09:03:20 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 20, 2011, 09:05:03 pm
Post by: Jonius7 on October 21, 2011, 01:12:23 am
Chrome > Firefox > IE > Opera.Those who say that are likely to have not tried Opera. Sure, Opera has some minor page compatibility issues not present in other browsers but generally it's quite a nice browser. It's also the most customisable (user interface-wise) by far of all of the browsers as you can change each aspect of the interface even move the opera button and all toolbars without any extra addons. The rss features are nicely integreated into Opera MailThe reason it isn't so popular is because it used to cost money, and then be ad-sponsored, and finally I think in 2005 it became freeware. It has always been a niche browser with some special features that others don't have.
IMHO.
Chrome is fast becoming the most dominant browser, mainly because of its simple interface. an omnibar (no pun intended), automatic updating, and unique shaped tabs on top (was the first browser to do so) has caused many people to switch to Chrome even though they have used Firefox in the past. Though personally for me it still has some issues with Save As. Dialogue boxes it has a very nice, clean look.
Firefox has lost some ground recently due to issues for it taking too much ram and not responding quite often. This was during the late 3.6/4.0b6 onwards stage. I quit firefox at that time because of two issues. Aero would be disabled often, and also I would have a very annoying white pixel on the firefox button. I myself switched to chrome for fast simple browsing. However ever since the release of firefox 4 and onwards, firefox has gotten significantly faster and is catching up with chrome. Too bad chrome's market share is catching up with firefox http://gs.statcounter.com .
Still it is the browser with the most addons, and there is going to be a new user interface from firefox 9 onwards called australis (search it on google!) and it looks awesome! Tablet - Friendly too! I might even switch to Firefox as my main browser if something better from the competition doesn't come out.
We all know about how bad IE used to be so I won't go into too much detail on that. However we must acknowledge that Microsoft has made a great effort in IE9. It's still not amazingly what we expected to be, but IE9 was mainly a catchup browser for Microsoft, and I feel that Microsoft is back in the race for browsers, with its minimalist interface, similar to Chrome's and with Internet Explorer 10 on the way I believe that Microsoft is heading in the right direction
Finally there's Apple Safari for windows. No significant updates have been provided for Safari in the last few years, and it is starting to fall behind with the other browsers. The iTunes style interface is still quite appealing, but may not be for those people who like Aero Glass. Still its good for those Apple fans who like the Safari on Mac feeling
Overall There is a great choice of browsers suited for particular people. They all have their own advantages and disadvantages. Even though I use Chrome mainly and Firefox sometimes, usually at the same time as Chrome (don't ask me, I just like to do that) other browsers are still viable options for your main browser/s. It took me a while too until I stopped criticizing IE so harshly. Hopefully I have given a brief (otherwise it would be a crazy article!) unbiased account of the 5 major browsers for those seeking one.
Post by: Eeems on October 21, 2011, 10:33:28 am
It's also the most customisable (user interface-wise) by far of all of the browsers as you can change each aspect of the interface even move the opera button and all toolbars without any extra addons.You can do that with Firefox as well, you just have to know where to put a custom CSS file. ( I do this myself to clean up the interface a tad on linux )
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and there is going to be a new user interface from firefox 9 onwards called australis (search it on google!) and it looks awesome! Tablet - Friendly too!Strange, I am in the nightly channel for firefox ( Currently 10.0a1 ) and this is the first I've heard of this UI change.
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However ever since the release of firefox 4 and onwards, firefox has gotten significantly faster and is catching up with chrome.Ram consumption is also going down significantly ( as long as you don't have sites with memory leaks open. )
Post by: Jonius7 on October 21, 2011, 09:50:39 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 23, 2011, 05:02:23 am
firefox 9
O.O
nightly 10.0a1
O.O
Post by: boot2490 on October 23, 2011, 10:55:42 am
I had ff 3
and the next month I had 4
and the next week I had 5 O.O
But Opera is slow, incompatible, has a complicated and cumbersome interface, crashed all three times I used it before giving up, and simply just is generally not as good as others. There. I backed up my claim. You didn't even give me a chance to do so before you downrated me!
Post by: Eeems on October 23, 2011, 09:06:26 pm
Alright, lets get rid of the browser wars before they start. No more arguing about which browser sucks/is better and why/why not.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 23, 2011, 09:09:13 pm
Lol Firefox updates really fastWell it was because the software bashing/war starting attempt started without a claim backup, hence the downvoting. Normally it should have come immediately. I personally had no problem with Opera speed (in fact for me it's the fastest) although I do know some sites are incompatible in it.
I had ff 3
and the next month I had 4
and the next week I had 5 O.O
But Opera is slow, incompatible, has a complicated and cumbersome interface, crashed all three times I used it before giving up, and simply just is generally not as good as others. There. I backed up my claim. You didn't even give me a chance to do so before you downrated me!
Anyway I agree Eeems. And yeah I noticed FF releases seems fast now. I mean just a few months ago I downloaded Nightly 7 or something :P
Post by: Eeems on October 23, 2011, 09:17:06 pm
Yeah their new rapid release process is great ( IMHO ) it allows them to get security fixes out faster, and to get new content out to us to use way faster.
Post by: Netham45 on October 23, 2011, 09:18:25 pm
Nightly 10 right now :P
Yeah their new rapid release process is great ( IMHO ) it allows them to get security fixes out faster, and to get new content out to us to use way faster.
Yea, but they keep touting each release like it's a giant deal. That's been bugging me.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 23, 2011, 09:18:39 pm
Post by: Eeems on October 23, 2011, 09:22:09 pm
The new major versions aren't as big as they use to be, and they do tote them a little more then they should like Netham mentioned ( well not everybody does but some do ).
I don't think they are trying to get as big of a number as everybody else, there is no way they would be able to catch up with Chrome anyways ( Chrome has a rapid release schedule as well ).
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 23, 2011, 09:33:59 pm
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 23, 2011, 11:41:50 pm
Post by: Eeems on October 24, 2011, 12:23:27 am
... IMHO the competition forces all browsers involved to innovate, which is awesome :DYes it is :) Can't wait for the new UI :D
Post by: alberthrocks on October 24, 2011, 12:34:45 am
Yeah, the rapid release schedule came in response to Chrome's auto-updating itself at an obscene rate. IMHO the competition forces all browsers involved to innovate, which is awesome :D*shudders*
The rapid release schedule is all but nice... :P Firefox 7.0 is a good example of this - it came out with a major bug that needed a .0.1 update to get it fixed. Not to mention all the other little bugs that have cropped up, like the window resizing bug (it's late, but I'll try to get a pic up tomorrow), and another one that I can't recall offhand. Yes, with 7.0.1. That's scary.
It's a craze that needs to end. The rapid release schedule works for Chrome because there's a lot of people working on it, and paid to do so too, typically very well. Hundreds of people work on it everyday, as a day job. (And even still some bugs do slip through!) Mozilla et. al. (including one Canonical for Ubuntu) don't really have this magnitude of people and effort working on it. They can't catch bugs as fast, not mentioning be productive as fast. It just doesn't work.
Sure, they are working faster and better, but is a rapid release schedule necessary? If they are getting motivated because of the scheduling, not because they are self-motivated... there's a more serious problem at hand than their bugs and release schedules. :P
I'm hoping that this insanity will end.... hopefully. It's great that they are competing, but sometimes you gotta compete differently. And that's fine - because in the end, the final result matters, not how much time it takes! :)
Note: I am a long time, and still proud Firefox user. I also speak as a FOSS project developer, with some minor experience in project management. My comments are mainly based on experiences, and maybe a little bit of speculation. I do not intend to insult anyone with my above comments. If you feel these are insulting, contact me and I will edit/remove them. Thanks! :)
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 24, 2011, 06:41:30 pm
It's a craze that needs to end. The rapid release schedule works for Chrome because there's a lot of people working on it, and paid to do so too, typically very well. Hundreds of people work on it everyday, as a day job. (And even still some bugs do slip through!) Mozilla et. al. (including one Canonical for Ubuntu) don't really have this magnitude of people and effort working on it. They can't catch bugs as fast, not mentioning be productive as fast. It just doesn't work.Another thing is that Chrome generally auto-updates silently, so there aren't any issues with major bugs getting left on users' computers as a result of the rapid release schedule, but yeah, rapid release does have its problems. I personally like it because I'm always checking for updates to everything, but I guess not many people are like that lol
EDIT: We seem to be off-topic O.O
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 25, 2011, 11:40:17 pm
1) rushed
2) contains fewer additions/fixes, just so the version number increases fasters, to artificially make the program look updated often.
It's a quality vs quantity issue there.
Post by: Eeems on October 26, 2011, 12:35:39 am
Post by: Jonius7 on May 01, 2012, 05:28:57 am
I wonder if the status bar is still working (I think it is last time I tried in Opera), but Omnom or the Channel itself has been less reliable recently with netsplits and whatnot.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 03, 2012, 11:18:32 pm