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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2012, 09:07:25 pm »
Unfortunately, It does not overclock well, I finally got it stable at 198 mhz with 66 mhz AHB. My last one did 240 mhz.

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2012, 09:20:11 pm »
At least the TI-83 Plus series has some time to live. And there's always Casio.
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2012, 10:38:01 pm »
And there are always new exploits.




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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2012, 11:55:54 pm »
The fact that we can talk to the insiders at TI - not just via email, but IN PERSON - is pretty significant! :) No one with the Casio community has achieved that, AFAIK. (I could be wrong, though :P)
Someone really did it. The manager of CASIO China educational equipment department (not the development department though )has an ID on a calc forum and someone in Shanghai has visited him several times. He is a good person. Before the 9750 series was hacked by cfxm, he had told us: "Just buy the latest fx-9750GII, not 9860. 9750 'enough' and it is 'more worthy'." Didn't he implied something...? :P

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2012, 09:58:50 pm »
So basically the 9750 had the TI-85 problem, where Casio decided they wanted User programming after the fact? :P

(85 had no Asm support, 86 did because TI saw what the community did with the 85 when it got cracked)
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2012, 08:28:42 am »
Theoretically, if we never upgrade to 3.2 we'll have the 3.1 OS forever? And there won't be any pesky UPDATE NOW kind of stuff from the comp software if we keep the 3.1 version...right? Also, is there an option to have two OSes on one device, like a multiboot? So whenever your calc is restarted it would ask you "Which OS would you like to choose" therefore being able to keep ndless 3.1 AND have the latest version?
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2012, 08:32:57 am »
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Theoretically, if we never upgrade to 3.2 we'll have the 3.1 OS forever?
Yes; but then, you won't be able to use the backwards-incompatible document format used by OS 3.2 and later (which is even less efficient and even more brain-damaged than the format used by OS 1.2 to 3.1 !), and the new features provided by newer OS versions. TI is serious about forcing people to upgrade...

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And there won't be any pesky UPDATE NOW kind of stuff from the comp software if we keep the 3.1 version...right?
You'll have it each time, unless you fiddle with the version number using Levak's tool.

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Also, is there an option to have two OSes on one device, like a multiboot? So whenever your calc is restarted it would ask you "Which OS would you like to choose" therefore being able to keep ndless 3.1 AND have the latest version?
That would arguably be a desirable feature from a user's POV, but is an absolute no-no from TI's POV.
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2012, 11:49:19 pm »
I would point out that unless people have an nspire-focused class, they will likely never have to deal with foreign documents outside of people making programs, and swapping nspire BASIC for ndless is an easy choice. :P

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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2012, 08:29:47 pm »
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Is it possible now to downgrade back to 3.1?
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #99 on: December 10, 2012, 08:36:20 pm »
<necroquestion>
Is it possible now to downgrade back to 3.1?
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Re: OS 3.2 blocks Ndless
« Reply #100 on: December 11, 2012, 01:22:59 am »
Yes, in fact it always has been possible to downgrade to OS 3.1.0.392 after installing OS 3.2.0.1212/1219. It's very unlikely that OS 3.3 will make it possible to downgrade to 3.1.0.392, though.
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