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Title: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2010, 02:46:06 am
As some of you are aware, the website and forums for Revolution Software (http://web.archive.org/web/20080709014507/http://www.revsoft.org/) (the TI-83+ programming team that produced WabbitEmu, Spasm and was working on ASM Pokémon and Zelda clones) have been down for almost a month now. It appears that the one who hosts the website or pays for hosting it (KevinJB/Rezek) is no longer reachable. This means they may have to switch to a new hosting provider to put Revsoft back online and have Jim_e point the domain name (which he owns) there. However, there haven't been any signs of life of any website resurrection project. Some of their calculator files were put elsewhere so they are still downloadable, but the location is not well known and some major projects such as WabbitEmu are still not available elsewhere.

Two of the website admins, Madskillz and Spencer, are still active in the TI community, the third one isn't, but still shows up sometimes and pays for the domain name and some staff such as BuckeyeDude, NanoWar and AaroneusTheGreat are still active coding as well.

However, with the site gone for this long, could this means that Revsoft is being disbanded as a programming team?

Hopefully, they will sort things out in the near future and Revsoft will live again as a community.

UPDATE (May 5th 2010): According to Madskillz, the founder of Revsoft, the site should be back up near the beginning of next school year. In the meantime, they will have a few surprises for the TI community.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: meishe91 on May 04, 2010, 02:55:34 am
Does anyone know why KevinJB/Rezek is unreachable?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2010, 02:59:38 am
No clue. According to Buckeye, he hasn't been on AIM in ages. I remember I had it on AIM but it was years ago. I believe Madskillz and Spencer also e-mailed him and got no response.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: meishe91 on May 04, 2010, 03:19:55 am
Hmmm, that's weird. That's one of the troubles about not knowing people in person or something like that. Hopefully there is some logical explanation behind it all though.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2010, 04:45:01 am
True, altough even when knowing someone IRL that can happen too, especially when living far away x.x

Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: tr1p1ea on May 04, 2010, 07:17:56 am
Jim e pretty much left the scene as well, though i think he still checked up from time to time.

I find it unusual for rs to have been down for so long.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2010, 11:28:15 am
What I found weird is how the site has been down for so long even thought they have two admins and three staff that were still active. I would have guessed that by then, they would have got new hosting and put a temporary board there, like MaxCoderz did back then. They did not have a lot of activity, but they were still kinda there. Buckeye posted updates of Wabbitemu on group.revsoft.org, Spencer did the same with his Zelda map editor, Buckeye posted screenshots of his grayscale Pokémon on their board and I believe Wabbitcode had regular progress. Now it's no longer possible to see progress on their stuff and some people migth think they're all gone from the community.

Otherwise, if a site restoral, even from an old backup, is impossible anymore, couldn't they merge with MaxCoderz or TI-Freakware. MC is pretty similar to RS in the way the team is mostly z80 and game oriented and a lot of their staff used to post on both forums. As for TI-Freakware, AaroneusTheGreat is already staff there.

I hope a downtime this long is not a sign that their activity status in the TI community did not change to retired x.x

Or are they working on a brand new site? (I kinda liked the one they had D:)
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Quigibo on May 04, 2010, 12:46:24 pm
I hope it comes back, even if not in the same form or domain.  They had a really great team of programmers and some of the coolest projects there and it was one of the few places where I could get really advanced assembly help.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 04, 2010, 03:39:44 pm
Oh noez! I hope they won't be gone for long. :(
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on May 04, 2010, 09:06:59 pm
Ha ha we aren't done...not yet anyhow. Me and Spencer have been actively talking here, and I cant promise when we'll be back up, it may be as late as August. However I will say that before we come back up we have a few surprises to be put into place. One thing that I want to get is some more staff, I will probably post some messages around for new staff in a bit.I would rather us stick with revsoft.org but if Jim never checks his email I wont be able to do anything about that. We may move to something temporarily at least I have board that we can use but I'm gonna talk to spencer first to see what he wants to do.
I'll keep you guys posted on any updates.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 04, 2010, 09:13:20 pm
aaah ok, do you think in the meantime you could set a temp place like Invisionfree?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 04, 2010, 09:19:44 pm
Yea, it really sux that you guys have had this downtime. I hope you guys can get Revsoft.org back up and running even if you have to change hosting. It wouldn't be the same without the Revsoft name, ya know? ;)
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 06, 2010, 11:40:41 pm
I think right now they are planning to have a temporary place to put all project files unavailable on ticalc.org so they can still be downloaded since people often ask where to find them.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on May 14, 2010, 12:32:21 am
Anyone looking for the linux version of wabbitcode...I was told that the linux version was pretty buggy and you are better off without a version. Sorry for the inconvenience but it looks like the most reliable update versions are only going to be maintained for the Mac OS/Window systems
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 14, 2010, 12:35:13 am
Aw sorry to hear :(

I think Tanner was looking for one, but IIRC he also has WIndows, so he could simply develop under Windows for the time being.

Do you think somebody will resume Wabbitcode for Linux at one point?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: _player1537 on May 14, 2010, 12:44:11 am
http://ourl.ca/4809 (http://ourl.ca/4809)

atm this works fine for me, however I haven't used the macros yet, but for a basic asm ide, it works just fine for linux.  Buckeye helped me fix a part of the code where it would make incorrectly named programs (the fix is already in the .zip)
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Galandros on May 14, 2010, 08:21:54 am
Revsoft is down for a long time now. When you put it back, you will surely need to recall the staff and some other users.

Any news about how is it going?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 14, 2010, 09:25:45 pm
Madskillz told that it would probably be near the end of Summer actually. When the site returns, they definitively need to mass email members to announce RS is back
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: meishe91 on May 14, 2010, 09:36:59 pm
Well glad to hear that things are planned to return somewhat soon :)
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Galandros on May 15, 2010, 05:15:38 am
Nice to know.
I hope Revsoft comes back with lots of progress news and even releases. Revsoft has always some slow posting related to the projects of Spencer and NanoWar.

But MC has totally fallen to a bot haunted forum. No signs of life there. :(
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 15, 2010, 11:44:12 am
Yeah it definitively seems MC is done now. The only staff that still seems to do calc stuff is tr1p1ea and he's busy with work. When Benryves posts on calc forums it's always about computers. :/
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Galandros on May 28, 2010, 04:49:41 pm
Rejoice, Revsoft is back into business.
http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/index.php
EDIT: with a bot spamming ads...
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 28, 2010, 04:53:39 pm
Yay!/me does a back-flip

EDIT: seems that spambot joleneve had some fun on the newly restored forum.

EDIT2: got ninja'd by Galandros! ;D
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: meishe91 on May 28, 2010, 06:49:43 pm
Glad to hear that RevSoft is back up. Anyone else notice that the spambot misspelled Canada? :P
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Quigibo on May 28, 2010, 08:41:55 pm
Horray!  ;D  I hope they get all their members back too!
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 28, 2010, 10:51:39 pm
My guess is that Rezek/Kevin Boyer mom (or himself) probably decided to pay the hosting bill again and it suddently went back up, because it seems like Madskillz or Jim_e are not even aware the site is back up at all (seeing how the spambot is still there)

I only discovered the site went back up two days ago. This is great news, though. Site back up == backups available to put it elsewhere (providing they have database access)

I hope Madskillz or Spencer can get in touch with Jim so they get the domain name, in case that one would go down soon, too.

Since the team is not dead, hopefully they should get some members back if they advertise the return on their codeplex page
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: BrandonW on May 28, 2010, 10:56:52 pm
I doubt they would accept it, but I'd be willing to offer free hosting indefinitely with my own host, unlimited space and bandwidth. I think it's very important to keep TI community sites up for as long as humanly possible, and I have no problem spending money to make it happen.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 28, 2010, 11:03:22 pm
I think Madskillz got offered webspace by tifreak and he seemed interested, but he didn't knew the future plans yet so it didn't go very far in discussions. I guess they'll appreciate  if someone offers them webspace, though.

And I agree with you. And personally, even if Revsoft forums never picked up again, I would still like if it stayed up. Same goes for MaxCoderz, and I still dream of the day MaxCoderz will get their act together and bring back a download system on their site with all their old releases. That stuff was history and I was disappointed when it got removed :(
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 29, 2010, 02:15:28 am
I'm very happy to see it up again, but I'm curious as to if/when they're gonna move.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Deep Toaster on May 29, 2010, 02:26:39 am
Just wondering: Is this (http://code.google.com/p/wabbitstudio/) really the place where they're releasing all future Mac versions of WabbitEmu, or are they moving it to Codeplex as well?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 29, 2010, 02:32:37 am
I am not sure if that one is still updated anymore. BuckeyeDude (Buckeye on IRC) would know, though
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: BuckeyeDude on May 29, 2010, 04:04:12 am
As far as I know that is soon to be gone. We're waiting on will to move all of that over to the codeplex, to keep everything in one central location. That was actually the reason for the name on codeplex, Spencer originally named it Wabbitsuite but it was changed to keep consistent with Will's stuff.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on May 30, 2010, 09:43:48 pm
RevSoft is back up now...nothing has changed website/forum wise as of yet, but I'll role out updates throughout the summer. Starting with a new website layout hopefully this month. All things wabbit related should now be able to be downloaded from the forum if you couldnt find it in any of the other sources.

edit: As you can see it coming back took by surprise and I've been busy with school this past month and didnt notice that you guys had posted that it was up already ha.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 30, 2010, 11:57:06 pm
But I like the current layout D:

Oh well still nice to see it back and future updates :)

Also are you planning to keep it hosted where it currently is? I fear if KevinJB dissapears again that it might go down again later if he forgets to pay the bill.

On MaxCoderz, every month Kv83 kept forgetting and the site was always suspended for a week or two x.x
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 30, 2010, 11:59:57 pm
Also are you planning to keep it hosted where it currently is? I fear if KevinJB dissapears again that it might go down again later if he forgets to pay the bill.
Yea, this is what I was wondering as well. Has he (KevinJB) still not spoken with anyone since Revsoft went back online?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on June 01, 2010, 01:56:20 am
Well the layout isnt going to change all that much...in fact Spencer thought it was almost exactly the same, what I've added now doesnt make it look all that similar but it is pretty close. I basically combined our original site and our latest together to kinda remember the past, as well as cleaned up some links. I'm trying to make it more user friendly for us to get news out as well as users to find out about our projects with out having to weed through useless stuff.

I sent a pm to kevin about the hosting...we are working on it so it wont happen again. Thanks Brandon on the offer but I think we're ok for now. I dont think we plan on letting RS go down like that again. We want to stay up as long as we can and as long as we are providing a service to the community.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 01, 2010, 02:26:14 am
Aaaah nice ^^

Glad to see RS will continue going strong. Hopefully a few projects updates will also help the forums.

Btw for the redesign, are you going a bit into some sort of forum-site hybrid like Omnimaga and the old UTI CMS? Or will the site continue to be separate from the forums like the original MaxCoderz website?
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on June 01, 2010, 02:46:21 am
Yea, you could make the news more accessible like it is here. I do actually check the front page at revsoft, but I'm sure most people don't. Anyways, I can't wait to see the new format you come up with! ^^.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on June 01, 2010, 06:09:09 pm
The plan is to integrate the two. Similar to what you guys have here as well as UTIs setup. I dont see the point in keeping the news separate like we currently have, plus it makes it easier for us to post news only in one place instead of two. 
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 01, 2010, 07:26:20 pm
Cool! Initially I feared it may not look professional because on Invisionfree there were no download system but finally it seemed to do the job pretty well plus now we no longer use the limited Invisionfree, plus as you said it makes it much easier for news posting. Plus only one account is needed to post comments on news and on the forums
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: TIfanx1999 on June 02, 2010, 02:25:37 am
The plan is to integrate the two. Similar to what you guys have here as well as UTIs setup. I dont see the point in keeping the news separate like we currently have, plus it makes it easier for us to post news only in one place instead of two. 
That's good! I think that'll definitely be an improvement. It should give Revsoft a bit nicer, newer look as well! =D
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on July 02, 2010, 01:28:26 am
Sorry on RS not being updated...I'm currently without a job and money, as well as trying to finish up this iPhone project for school. However I still dont have access to the hosting so I cant upload anything anyhow. I've sent a message to Kevin, but just as a heads up I probably wont able to bring out the new layout until the end of July. I should be more active as well around that time because I will finally be done with school and this iPhone project. Just thought I would keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 02, 2010, 01:46:23 am
Aww, sorry to hear :(, good luck on finding a job. As for school do you mean done completly or just some vacations? It will be nice for you to finally have some free time for yourself *cough*possible new calc game from Madskillz? ;D*cough*runs*

I hope you can manage to update RS and get hosting access in August.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: Madskillz on July 02, 2010, 12:47:22 pm
I'll be done completely, I'll have my bachelors in Computer Science. I've been kicking around a project idea for a while now...but I really dont want to start something new. I'll probably finish one of my older projects.
Title: Re: The end of Revsoft?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 02, 2010, 05:15:33 pm
Glad to hear ^^. More free time is always good. We need breaks sometimes. :) Finishing Cobra would be cool. Wasn't this from way back in the Drubu Productions days? (back when MaxCoderz still used Ikonboard CGI forum system)