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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on February 11, 2014, 02:28:47 pm
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After a TI-82 prototype was revealed by TI-Planet (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=157467) yesterday, TI has officially announced (http://education.ti.com/fr/france/products/calculatrices-graphiques/ti-82-plus/tabs/overview) the upcoming release of that calculator model. Originally known as the TI-83 Plus.Fr, this model will replace the TI-82 Stats.Fr, which was a TI-83 running a French ROM. A new version of the TI-83 Plus.Fr, now using TI-84 Plus Silver Edition hardware and OSes, is already available since school started.
The TI-82 Plus will feature a 6 MHz Z80 processor, 24 KB of user RAM, 160 KB of Flash and a 96x64 monochrome LCD. The installed OSes will show "TI-83 Plus" on the screen, much like how the newer TI-83 Plus.Fr models (the black ones with an USB port) displays "TI-84 Plus Silver Edition" instead of "TI-83 Plus".
So from now on, this will be the model number difference between France and other countries, should you run into one of those models:
France - Other
TI-82 Stats.Fr -> TI-83
TI-82 Plus -> TI-83 Plus
TI-83 Plus.Fr USB -> TI-84 Plus Silver Edition
TI-84 Pocket.Fr -> TI-84 Plus
The pricing is apparently going to be the same as the TI-82 Stats.Fr, kinda like how the renamed TI-84 Plus Silver Edition is available for the price of a TI-83 Plus in France.
Will the original TI-82 and TI-89 eventually going to be re-released as the TI-81 Stats and TI-86.Fr or something like that?
Sources (in French):
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=157501
http://education.ti.com/fr/france/products/calculatrices-graphiques/ti-82-plus/tabs/overview
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Wait, it's now the same mess as Casio and AFX/Graph100, FX9xxx/Graph X5... But have the calcs the same hardware as the foreign ones?
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Indeed, TI seems to be heading the way Casio did in the 90's and early 2000's with calc names >.<
I think the TI-82 Stats.Fr has the same hardware as the 83+ but half of the Flash isn't wired, so it's impossible to reflash the calc nor use that part of the ROM. The 82 Plus is the same as the 83+ but it uses two lithium batteries instead of the stronger one in older models.
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Indeed, TI seems to be heading the way Casio did in the 90's and early 2000's with calc names >.<
I think the TI-82 Stats.Fr has the same hardware as the 83+ but half of the Flash isn't wired, so it's impossible to reflash the calc nor use that part of the ROM. The 82 Plus is the same as the 83+ but it uses two lithium batteries instead of the stronger one in older models.
Or they are heading the way Apple did.
Not only they lock down the Nspire, but now they also sell their stuff twice (or more) by only changing its name and saying "it's a(nother) revolution".
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So, TI releases a 'new' calculator which is basically just old hardware in the case of an other old calculator? It seems like TI isn't even trying anymore.
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We need more printing calculators in new shells!
(http://www.datamath.org/Desktop/Images/TI-5040.jpg)
Get on that, TI.
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So, TI releases a 'new' calculator which is basically just old hardware in the case of an other old calculator? It seems like TI isn't even trying anymore.
To be honest, I think they are trying to reduce the pricing scale of calculators in France to compete better against Casio, who has a much stronger market share there than in North America, so they replace lower end calcs with better hardware and keep the same price tag and so on, with every other model. I'M betting that it's only a matter of time before the TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition gets released as the TI-84 Plus.Fr in France. Another possible reason is the same as Hayleia said: They rename models to make it look like they're brand new revolutionary models to lure customers.
That reminds me, do you remember back when students swapped the TI-89 case with a 83 Plus one to circumvent tests restrictions?
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That reminds me, do you remember back when students swapped the TI-89 case with a 83 Plus one to circumvent tests restrictions?
I personally do not, but doing so might not help since the key labels are confusing and turning on the calculator would produce a TI-89 screen.
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True, but back then it actually worked it seems. Teachers probably didn't bother looking hard enough. As for the keys it depends if the user knows each key by heart.
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When i saw the news about the prototype on ti-planet i figured this would become the new 83+ for france. It makes sense as the 83+ is now a 84+ over there. It'd be a lot easier if they just made the model names standard worldwide though. It'd cause a lot less confusion that way IMO.
All that said, i do like the case, and would like to get one for my collection eventually.
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I personally will pass on this one, since I already have a 83+ I don't use. I might as well swap my 83+ case with the 84+CSE one and remove the faceplate, assuming it fits, and it would pretty much look like a TI-82 Plus shaped like a TI-84+SE :P
I might still try to get a TI-76.Fr eventually, though, since I don't have any model running its ROM. (It's similar to the TI-83, but features were removed and the ALPHA key was replaced with the TI-73 text typing thing. It's not exactly the same OS as a TI-73, though)
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Makes sense. :) I don't have a TI-76.Fr either, but it is also one I'd like to get eventually. :P
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Wtf are they doing. O.O They're completely messing up the names and continue to sell outdated hardware. <_</me slaps TI :P
The only calcs that should remain in the z80 series are the 84+SE and the CSE. At least they ditched the 83 so they're making progress here. :P
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Holy crap! Streetwalker's back!
Have some welcome back peanuts!
!peanuts
On topip:
While I don't think this is right, I'd like to point out that while TI-Education isn't doing anything new, TI is. TI chips are in almost every electronic device we own, guys :P
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I know that right. But they ditched OMAP recently IIRC.
And yes I'm back (hopefully). Thank you for the peanuts. :D
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Wtf are they doing. O.O They're completely messing up the names and continue to sell outdated hardware. <_</me slaps TI :P
The only calcs that should remain in the z80 series are the 84+SE and the CSE. At least they ditched the 83 so they're making progress here. :P
Yeah I was wondering why they bothered keeping the 83 for so long and why they released a TI-76 instead of moving the TI-73 oversea. The 73 was much better because of Flash apps support, but I guess maybe TI was worried about people using Chameleon. I understand having the TI-82 stats to cater to the big TI-82 userbase that France had in 2003-04, but that userbase has since dwindled a lot.
That said, I hope they keep the TI-83 Plus for a while longer or at least do like in France and replace its hardware with 84+SE hardware for the same price, because where I live, the TI-84 Plus costs close to $145 when it's not on sale, which is even more than the Casio PRIZM. Or they could just drop the prices one level down without renaming the calcs.
Btw where have you been Streetwalker? You suddenly disappeared O.O
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Ugh, how does this slip past me?
It is kinda weird how they change the numbering......getting you thinking if they will make an 84+ with a 85+ OS...oh wait :P
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Ugh, how does this slip past me?
It is kinda weird how they change the numbering......getting you thinking if they will make an 84+ with a 85+ OS...oh wait :P
don't give them ideas. Imagine if they release a TI-85 renamed to TI-84+ with no Flash and just 28 KB of RAM and a 6 MHz CPU just as an excuse to jack prices up :P
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Btw where have you been Streetwalker? You suddenly disappeared O.O
Well for a bit I had very limited computer/internet access then got lazy to come because phones are not so good for forum browsing. Then some stuff happened like minor dysphoria, staying in my room the whole time and missing class a lot. Hopefully better days have come and I'm back. :)
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Hopefully things goes better. Also I use Tapatalk to use the forums and it's nice. It's not free anymore, though.
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Nah, I don't like Tapatalk. I have my tablet back now and it's much more comfortable to browse on a 7" display than a 4.7" one. ;)