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Title: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on March 31, 2014, 08:10:08 pm
At T^3 2014, we had a lot of opportunities to talk with Peter Balyta, new president of TI Education. As we reported to our last news, Balyta was very interested working with the community. Therefore, we are announcing today Texas Instruments will be buying Omnimaga.

We at Omnimaga have the community at heart and it will be a pleasure collaborating with TI to bring you the best programs for TI calculators.

More details later, but rest assured it's for the good of the community!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: turiqwalrus on April 01, 2014, 12:05:46 am
Why do I keep thinking that the text here should be brown? o:
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Xeda112358 on April 01, 2014, 12:15:15 am
Awesome, I have always wanted this partnership :) A revolutionary day indeed!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: shmibs on April 01, 2014, 12:23:39 am
you guys held out for the good deal offers, right? i thought we weren't going to be doing this unless they agreed to produce merchandise / upgrade the server / etc.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 12:32:16 am
So does Omni members now get TI calcs for half the price? :P

I'll still hug my HP Prime, though. :P (and to a lesser extent my 84+C)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Hayleia on April 01, 2014, 12:49:13 am
Yay ! Facebook buys Mojang, TI buys Omnimaga, ... That's a lot of awesome companies buying awesome program developpers around April ;)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on April 01, 2014, 12:54:23 am
you guys held out for the good deal offers, right? i thought we weren't going to be doing this unless they agreed to produce merchandise / upgrade the server / etc.
I guess they were very convincing...
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on April 01, 2014, 01:10:15 am
you guys held out for the good deal offers, right? i thought we weren't going to be doing this unless they agreed to produce merchandise / upgrade the server / etc.
Of course. Full time salary for all the admins too.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 01:19:14 am
Yay ! Facebook buys Mojang, TI buys Omnimaga, ... That's a lot of awesome companies buying awesome program developpers around April ;)
I'm hoping that the new Facebook redesign is 10% fake. I actually like it better, but the fonts are a bit too large. :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on April 01, 2014, 01:20:08 am
Yay ! Facebook buys Mojang, TI buys Omnimaga, ... That's a lot of awesome companies buying awesome program developpers around April ;)
I'm hoping that the new Facebook redesign is 10% fake. I actually like it better, but the fonts are a bit too large. :P
The facebook redesign was out months ago for some people.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on April 01, 2014, 01:35:07 am
Yeah, seems the new layout don't go out for everyone at the same time... DJ got his about a week later than mine.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TheCoder1998 on April 01, 2014, 02:04:54 am
isn't this an april fools joke? :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: aeTIos on April 01, 2014, 02:11:28 am
How so? It might be a coincidence, but I'm pretty sure this is a legit message. Read the previous news, the new TI Education director is actually pretty positive about the community. I hope this new tightened partnership will result in a more open platform for the TI-Nspire and I congratulate all of omnimaga staff on achieving this new milestone. May 1-4-14 be written in gold in the history books!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: alberthrocks on April 01, 2014, 02:31:09 am
I'm in full support of this partnership! They have committed to grow the TI community, and will be providing us graphing calculators as prizes for our future contests. Go TI! :D
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Jim Bauwens on April 01, 2014, 04:05:28 am
Pretty great news. From experience I can say that Balyta is a very nice person, so the future of Omnimaga is definitely guaranteed. I'm also happy about their decision not to filter Ndless talk :)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 01, 2014, 04:36:17 am
So does Omni members now get TI calcs for half the price? :P

I'll still hug my HP Prime, though. :P (and to a lesser extent my 84+C)

You can do whatever you want, but all HP and Casio sections are in the process of being removed(as this is a TI site).


Also, apparently TI is refocusing it's efforts:

Quote from:  Peter Balyta
The TI-89 and now the TI-Nspire CAS platform is really taking off as a programming platform, and we try to encourage that wherever we see it.

Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Sorunome on April 01, 2014, 06:03:04 am
Yup, this is so awesome :)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TheCoder1998 on April 01, 2014, 06:42:20 am
so, are we going to get a new os for the ti84+?
i would love to have a stable mathprint os :D
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 01, 2014, 06:52:54 am
so, are we going to get a new os for the ti84+?
i would love to have a stable mathprint os :D

No, but I hear a new OS is coming for the TI-89.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: rw24 on April 01, 2014, 09:06:25 am
Yay! Maybe Ndless will not be necessary now.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Legimet on April 01, 2014, 12:13:03 pm
This is awesome! I hope they integrate Ndless into the OS and join the Ndless team, that would be great :)
Maybe they can make it so that elf2flt doesn't freeze your computer and take forever when linking with libstdc++.

As for HP and Casio, no one uses those anyway, and besides, TI will probably buy them in the future.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Aspiring on April 01, 2014, 12:29:05 pm
Hey guys this is right around April 1st and the interview was posted on ti planet a few weeks ago.  I think this is totally fake don't get your hopes up.  (Did you guys forget the April fools joke about os 3.57mp (or some other number like it) that prevented all third party code from running (no third party apps, no asm( ) ).  But ti removed the download link but the admin had a "copy" of it that he had made by patching os 2.55mp to remove third party asm.  He even released a patcher for the "new" os that gave back third party asm abilities.  For a very long time (mostly) everyone believed it.  This is just the same.   ;)   (Doesn't it seem fishy that there is absolutely NOTHING on tiplanet about this?  I this were true tiplanet would be practically throwing a party.)   I would also like this to be true but the evidence otherwise is overwhelming.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 01, 2014, 12:35:41 pm
Some details obviously had to be kept quiet until they were ready to be released. Also, why would TI-Planet be throwing a party? ???
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Aspiring on April 01, 2014, 02:05:37 pm
Because it would likely mean ti may support ndless or third party compiled programs to some extent.  Any time any new calculator comes out or anything special they are the first the review it or talk about it.  based on how excited we are getting here they would be far more excited than us at ti working directly with the community.  That is where I got my metaphor (it was maybe a bit too hyperbolic though  :P ).  Seriously though there isn't anything on ti planet.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: alberthrocks on April 01, 2014, 02:12:39 pm
TI Planet is the "behind-the-scenes" community. They are not ready to announce their integration yet, unfortunately.

In the meantime, you can check out their newest software here (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=160012&sid=c9ce6dce08296764968a6b53894ea6be#p160012)!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TheCoder1998 on April 01, 2014, 02:13:38 pm
yeah i must admit it is kinda wierd that tiplanet hasn't posted a single thing about this...

also, really off topic, but 2048 is really addicting :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Hayleia on April 01, 2014, 03:11:12 pm
Hey guys this is right around April 1st
I think quite everyone got that but was continuing the joke. In fact the first thing that occured to me when I saw the topic title was Facebook buying Mojang so I was in joke mode before I started reading the post.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: aeTIos on April 01, 2014, 03:15:08 pm
Still not sure why Aspiring thinks this is a joke ??? I've seen official papers and such bearing enough evidence that Omni was in fact bought by TI.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 03:52:53 pm
I was sure that the Cemetech interview was posted just a few days ago, not a week ago. Also, that interview mentions that TI seems more open to the community than it was a few years ago. Heck, just the TI-Planet partnership with TI-France two years ago was a sign of some things to come (although TI still has a long way to go before being trusted by the community. One big step in such direction would be quitting trying to block Ndless as long as PTTCopier/Killer won't land in community download archives.)

Also, if this is real, I hope Omni wasn't bought for just $10. :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Aspiring on April 01, 2014, 04:38:19 pm
Hmmm you saw the papers.... I guess it is really then.  To be honest though I am not sure how buying omnimaga correlates to them trying to have a better relationship with the programming community.  Why would they want to buy omnimaga?  If they wanted to make developers happy they could fix some of the bugs in their os's that have been around for years, they could fix their nspire os so that it can support third party compiled programs without giving them os prevelages (linux perhaps?).  If they did that they would make a lot of developers happy.  The only reason that I can think of for ti to buy omnimaga is to control what is released by the community.  What do you guys think?  Why would ti actually want to buy omnimaga?
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 04:40:18 pm
Well, if they intended to control what we release, they would have done an appstore like Apple and only Flash apps that they allow in would be able to run on calcs, while counterfeit apps would have bad signatures.

Also, my Custer's Revenge 84+C thread would have been deleted faster than the speed of light earlier. :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: aeTIos on April 01, 2014, 05:16:05 pm
TI wants to be able to use our code tricks in their own software. I can imagine that thepenguin77 would be approached to help developing a new 84+ OS, for example.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: alberthrocks on April 01, 2014, 05:50:48 pm
I just got off IRC with Eeems, and looks like it's legit:

(http://i.imgur.com/szrpdv4.png)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: aeTIos on April 01, 2014, 06:04:49 pm
Told you so!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Matrefeytontias on April 01, 2014, 06:05:15 pm
Still seems fake. TI buying Omnimaga = community content controlled by lucrative corporation = interests everwhere = no right to disagree = no going against them. Just imagine how happy they would be with Ndless that gives nearly full control on Nspire OSes as they desperately try to block it, or the hacked signature keys for apps and 3rd-party OSes (KnightOS for example). I'm also sure they would be happy with the disassembled TIOS source floating around here. So unless TI really changed its mentality in a very significant (and sudden) way, I'm hoping this is a classic April fool.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: alberthrocks on April 01, 2014, 06:15:16 pm
Still seems fake. TI buying Omnimaga = community content controlled by lucrative corporation = interests everwhere = no right to disagree = no going against them. Just imagine how happy they would be with Ndless that gives nearly full control on Nspire OSes as they desperately try to block it, or the hacked signature keys for apps and 3rd-party OSes (KnightOS for example). I'm also sure they would be happy with the disassembled TIOS source floating around here. So unless TI really changed its mentality in a very significant (and sudden) way, I'm hoping this is a classic April fool.
This is just like Facebook buying Oculus. Seemed like a joke at the time (and even horrifying), before people accepted it as reality. And for Oculus, it's a good thing - they get a LOT more resources to further VR! (This came out of a recent interview with one of the Oculus' founders.)
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 07:41:47 pm
On a side note, the Omni RPG website opened on April 9th 2004. Imagine if it opened 8 days earlier... maybe people would have thought it's a hoax and never bothered checking again, then Omnimaga would never have gotten any notoriety in the community ever (other than its name in the ROL3 RPG credits). O.O

That said, regarding the topic, while I don't necessarily believe it, TI-France is still strongly affiliated with TI-Planet with some strong ties with TI Dallas in USA (Adriweb goes there every year IIRC), even though their archives includes a few TI-OSes that are no longer available on TI website. They seem pretty tolerant towards some files uploaded online (the only OS for which a takedown was requested is OS 1.1). If they bought a calculator website, while they could go as far as censoring any negative post about TI or create alternate accounts to post positive reviews about their products like certain companies do, they could also very well allow any content other than cheating tools, and even in the cheating tools case, they might still let them and just try harder at blocking Ndless. Of course we don't want cheating tools here but hopefully you get what I mean.

I'm thinking that TI still has a long way to go to gain our trusts regarding third-party dev, but there were improvements since 2010. In 2010, they tried in sneaky ways to slowly kill the Z80 line, discontinuing the TI-84+SE in many countries as a first step (then reconsidering doing so in certain of them after much backlash from the community) and I once read a quote on MoHPC saying that in 2007 the reason why TI-BASIC lacked input/output commands on the Nspire was exclusively to eliminate calculator gaming. Since it became clear that they wouldn't win the battle against gaming, they threw us two bones, one being called Lua and the other TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition. They still need improvements on many points, starting by stopping charging $150 for a 20-years old hardware to convince students to buy a calc instead of relying on a phone/tablet on which they can cheat even easier, but if TI still had their 2007-10 attitude today, then the TI-83+/84+/SE/89T/v200 lines would be gone long ago and the color 84+ would have never existed.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 01, 2014, 09:49:40 pm
Hmmm you saw the papers.... I guess it is really then.  To be honest though I am not sure how buying omnimaga correlates to them trying to have a better relationship with the programming community.  Why would they want to buy omnimaga?  If they wanted to make developers happy they could fix some of the bugs in their os's that have been around for years, they could fix their nspire os so that it can support third party compiled programs without giving them os prevelages (linux perhaps?).  If they did that they would make a lot of developers happy.  The only reason that I can think of for ti to buy omnimaga is to control what is released by the community.  What do you guys think?  Why would ti actually want to buy omnimaga?



They see it as a good PR move. It is also a good way to interact directly with your target audience and get feedback. It's much more direct than something like say TI-cares.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 01, 2014, 09:54:59 pm
The only issue, though, is if they have to pay somebody to provide feedback directly on the forums because we don't want to do it as volunteers (other than whatever we already do as hobby), then maybe they will not want to spend an extra $10 an hour 40 hours a week to pay somebody to do it. For TI, every penny count. :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on April 01, 2014, 10:15:15 pm
I indeed heard plans of merging Omnimaga with TI-Cares, with would be a good move since most employees at TI-Cares barely know how to turn your calc on. You would reach experts who actually know their calc down to the most obscure feature.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Aspiring on April 01, 2014, 10:50:55 pm
Cannot believe I am saying this but I am now convinced that TI is merging with omnimaga.  I hope that this will be for the best.  :)  We shall see I suppose.  I am really excited to see what will happen.  I really hope that this isn't an April fools joke because this could be a sign that things will improve.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: Hayleia on April 02, 2014, 01:07:28 am
Still seems fake. TI buying Omnimaga = community content controlled by lucrative corporation = interests everwhere = no right to disagree = no going against them. Just imagine how happy they would be with Ndless that gives nearly full control on Nspire OSes as they desperately try to block it, or the hacked signature keys for apps and 3rd-party OSes (KnightOS for example). I'm also sure they would be happy with the disassembled TIOS source floating around here. So unless TI really changed its mentality in a very significant (and sudden) way, I'm hoping this is a classic April fool.
They would indeed be happy with Ndless under their hand, but I don't think they care about KnightOS:
This is just like Facebook buying Oculus. Seemed like a joke at the time (and even horrifying), before people accepted it as reality. And for Oculus, it's a good thing - they get a LOT more resources to further VR! (This came out of a recent interview with one of the Oculus' founders.)
Well I think that Facebook buying Oculus Rift is more convincing. TI buying Omnimaga really sounds like Facebook buying Mojang.
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: aeTIos on April 02, 2014, 01:16:46 am
Ok, it's over. Happy (late) April's fools!
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 02, 2014, 02:51:57 am
So some of us including myself were playing around during that prank, but to be honest, I didn't believe it at all, since Omni often made fun of TI and all and we have Casio/HP stuff. However it was still fun nonetheless. :P
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TIfanx1999 on April 02, 2014, 07:29:47 am
Happy April fools everyone! :trollface:
Title: Re: TI buys Omnimaga
Post by: TheCoder1998 on April 03, 2014, 10:41:32 am
i knew it was an april fools joke :P

happy (late) april fools :D