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Omnimaga => News => Topic started by: apcalc on March 23, 2011, 02:24:12 pm
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After a mysterious announcement that later disappeared about a month ago, TI France has finally restored both the information page and new official pictures of the TI-84 Pocket, as reported by TI-Bank (http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1013).
Although an appealing part of this calculator is that it carries the same functions of the original TI-84 Plus, it also has several drawbacks. First, much like the new Nspire CX, this calculator does not come with a slide-cover, thus exposing the screen to the elements and increasing the likelihood of damage. Secondly, it only has the amount of memory of a normal TI-84 Plus, not the memory of the well-adored TI-84 Plus Silver Edition, thus showing a step backwards in memory size. :(
As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
(http://education.ti.com/images/rightcolumn/euro/fr/prod-rtcol-84pocket-fr.jpg)
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It seems neat (the calculator) but I feel like the drawbacks overweight the advantages, the arrow buttons look hard to press too.
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Gameboy v2.0 :w00t:
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Gameboy v2.0 :w00t:
Did you read the memory part? Not sure if it can handle it :P
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It could possibly run some GB games, but not Pokémon for sure.
Also from the pic, it seems like it has a screen protector like the 80 and 82. I hope it doesn't get scratched easily like the other old calcs, though.
ALso any ideas about the price?
I think TI uses France to attract more customers or old customers with gimmicks, even if they already have another graphing calc or even a 84+, because they're in direct competition with Casio there (the most active Casio dev forum is in French) so they're gonna offer them even more stuff than here.
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Did you read the memory part? Not sure if it can handle it :P
Well, the gameboy used external storage....
Another challenge for kerm or calc84? :P
A little device that allows the calc to read the GB cartridges?
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Did you read the memory part? Not sure if it can handle it :P
Well, the gameboy used external storage....
Another challenge for kerm or calc84? :P
A little device that allows the calc to read the GB cartridges?
Unless I can get the data to map directly into the TI-84+ address space, external storage is a no-go.
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As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
I can't see another reason but that for Texas to release it in France only.
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As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
I can't see another reason but that for Texas to release it in France only.
Well, not necessarily. It very well could be a French-only product. Stuff like the TI-82 Stats have been France only for years now.
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The size is nice, and the screen looks really clear. Arrow keys might not be too bad, except maybe for playing Tetris or something (distance between left and right keys).
Overall, it looks like a great calc. Why wouldn't TI sell it over here?
My sub(2)h.
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As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
I can't see another reason but that for Texas to release it in France only.
Well, not necessarily. It very well could be a French-only product. Stuff like the TI-82 Stats have been France only for years now.
I had no idea about that, :S so you could be right.
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Looks nice, but the Prizm is sexier ;)
I remember someone did a hardware mod and basically put a whole gameboy color inside their calc. With the smaller size, this would be cool if it were done again.
Edit: 3 (!) replies while I was typing.
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As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
I can't see another reason but that for Texas to release it in France only.
Well, not necessarily. It very well could be a French-only product. Stuff like the TI-82 Stats have been France only for years now.
Actually the regular 82 STATS got released Europe-wide, but then got quickly discontinued outside France.
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As of this time, the TI-84 Pocket will only be sold in France. Will it eventually migrate to the US Line? Is TI using France as a test market? Only time will tell!
I can't see another reason but that for Texas to release it in France only.
Well, not necessarily. It very well could be a French-only product. Stuff like the TI-82 Stats have been France only for years now.
Actually the regular 82 STATS got released Europe-wide, but then got quickly discontinued outside France.
Oh yeah, the 82 STATS, a girl in my class had it but gave up on it and got a nspire.
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Looks like TI really really likes the Casio Prizm shape but it looks like the same old gray screen and with less memory why would someone buy it? Maybe it is cheap?
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From what I saw on TI-BANK, the price was apparently similar to their other calcs. Maybe it's just the reseller selling them for much higher, though.
I doubt the calc will be any cheaper than the Prizm. The only reason why people would buy it is if due to the larger amount of games available for the calc being released or teachers trying to push the 84+. I bet this will change over the years when Prizm ASM/C games come out.
I still like my 84+ for the faster BASIC language than the Prizm and the selection of games, but nowadays I use my Prizm more otherwise.
It's certain Omni will continue to focus on the 84+ and a bit on the TI-Nspire, but I bet in the future we'll have more and more Prizm coders and the amount will be even with TI-Nspire coders.
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What!?!?!? France Only!??!?!? Whyyyyyyyy??!!??/me breaks down and cries.
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I wonder if it uses an asic with 48k or 128k of ram. I still don't know why they would use 1 mb flash, a 2 mb is the same size physically for $.02 more.
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I would only buy this if it had the extra ram pages. It seems that the drawbacks outweigh the small size. :(
I still want another 83 plus family calc, though...
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@Freyaday, you could buy one online, it's prob. a reg 84+ with the French app factory installed, from what I hear.
Also, Extra RAM pages != 84+ Archive space, they are different :P but it almost definitely won't have them, since it's just a small 84+, and New.
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A much more realistic picture of the new TI-84 Pocket.fr has been released today:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1107
The design seems to have been altered.
Which picture is your favorite?
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Nice! Personally, aside from the top border that looks a bit too slim to me and the small keys, I like it better than the regular 84+ that went straight from black to white. I like the colors of the 2nd one and in the real picture rather than the virtual one, personally.
Was the slidecase finally included or is it still unknown?
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It looks nice... Not much smaller than the normal 84, but smaller nonetheless.
On the other hand, I just realized something: Since it was released after OS 2.55MP came out, chances are none of the previous OS versions will work O.O
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On the other hand, I just realized something: Since it was released after OS 2.55MP came out, chances are none of the previous OS versions will work O.O
Why not? The normal 84+ doesn't have any downgrade protection at all. If it's going to have the same feature set as the original 84+, additions to the OS (like what happened with the 83+SE) aren't going to be necessary - you can just put any 84+ compatible OS on it. (Maybe even WFRNG OS ;D)
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We never know, though, maybe the hardware will be modified so it is no longer accepting any OS under 2.55MP
EDIT 2.55, not 2.71 X.x
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We never know, though, maybe the hardware will be modified so it is no longer accepting any OS under 2.55MP
EDIT 2.55, not 2.71 X.x
Ah, but that would be a bit stupid of TI. We could just rename 2.43 to 2.55MP. :P
Unless they create something more clever, that is...
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On the other hand, I just realized something: Since it was released after OS 2.55MP came out, chances are none of the previous OS versions will work O.O
Why not? The normal 84+ doesn't have any downgrade protection at all. If it's going to have the same feature set as the original 84+, additions to the OS (like what happened with the 83+SE) aren't going to be necessary - you can just put any 84+ compatible OS on it. (Maybe even WFRNG OS ;D)
It's completely possible. The TI-83 Plus Silver Edition doesn't accept OSes before 1.13, for instance. Same with touchpads and the first clickpad OSes. Earlier OSes just don't take new hardware into account.
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It's completely possible. The TI-83 Plus Silver Edition doesn't accept OSes before 1.13, for instance. Same with touchpads and the first clickpad OSes. Earlier OSes just don't take new hardware into account.
Yes, but it doesn't apply if the hardware is the same. I don't think the 84+ Pocket has any new features.
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On the other hand, I just realized something: Since it was released after OS 2.55MP came out, chances are none of the previous OS versions will work O.O
Why not? The normal 84+ doesn't have any downgrade protection at all. If it's going to have the same feature set as the original 84+, additions to the OS (like what happened with the 83+SE) aren't going to be necessary - you can just put any 84+ compatible OS on it. (Maybe even WFRNG OS ;D)
It's completely possible. The TI-83 Plus Silver Edition doesn't accept OSes before 1.13, for instance. Same with touchpads and the first clickpad OSes. Earlier OSes just don't take new hardware into account.
1.12 and older OSes don't run on the TI-83+SE, because of the different unsupported hardware.
But are you sure they aren't installable?...
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It's completely possible. The TI-83 Plus Silver Edition doesn't accept OSes before 1.13, for instance. Same with touchpads and the first clickpad OSes. Earlier OSes just don't take new hardware into account.
Yes, but it doesn't apply if the hardware is the same. I don't think the 84+ Pocket has any new features.
Who knows. They changed their casing, obviously, so maybe they took the opportunity to do some other "enhancements."
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If this calc is released in USA, I'm suggesting it to all my friends as a hobbyist's calc, unless TI decides to be turds and lock it down. O_O
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I actually like both mockups, but I think I like the colour scheme better in the first one. The arrow keys look better in the second one though. Has TI given a tentative release date yet? I am interested in this calc. I am also curious as to if this one will have the full extra memory like the older TI-84 models did. We need more info! :D
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On the other hand, I just realized something: Since it was released after OS 2.55MP came out, chances are none of the previous OS versions will work O.O
Why not? The normal 84+ doesn't have any downgrade protection at all. If it's going to have the same feature set as the original 84+, additions to the OS (like what happened with the 83+SE) aren't going to be necessary - you can just put any 84+ compatible OS on it. (Maybe even WFRNG OS ;D)
It's completely possible. The TI-83 Plus Silver Edition doesn't accept OSes before 1.13, for instance. Same with touchpads and the first clickpad OSes. Earlier OSes just don't take new hardware into account.
1.12 and older OSes don't run on the TI-83+SE, because of the different unsupported hardware.
But are you sure they aren't installable?...
Maybe the OSes would require some modifications to be installed on newer models that aren't supported by them?
I remember OS 1.12 wouldn't send to my 83+SE too. Btw 1.13 is so unstable X.x, not as much as the fake 2.71MP but still causes random crashes.