I assume the app can't run any Lua or Nspire Basic programs though right?
Wow, that's rather shocking. I thought apple was completely against allowing software that had any sort of programming functionality.I assume the app can't run any Lua or Nspire Basic programs though right?
Oh yes it certainly can. It's not a player, it's the whole Software that has been re-coded (except the Vernier part that isn't there) :)
I'll be testing it very soon and see the Lua API differences if there are any right now.
Another good news ? The price for both the CAS and non-CAS version is the same : $29.99 !
What do you mean? ???TI told me about 10 times that we weren't supposed to announce anything about this to anyone before 8am CT / 9am ET.
I dunno what TI told Adriweb, but apparently the app is already in the App Store in Australia, it might had created confusion.What do you mean? ???TI told me about 10 times that we weren't supposed to announce anything about this to anyone before 8am CT / 9am ET.
open to third party applicationsAre we talking about the same Apple company ?
I hope this doesn't mark the beginning of the end of actual calcs, though x.xI think it does, at least for some market segments.
One of my TI contacts just got back to me that it's ok to post this now.
EDIT :
Got this from TI : "The App has been temporarily pulled this morning due to a security issue in the final build. We are working to get it fixed, but we don’t have an ETA on when it will be back up for download – might be a few days. It was just pulled in the past 30 minutes."
Lmao, now that would be funny. ;DEDIT :
Got this from TI : "The App has been temporarily pulled this morning due to a security issue in the final build. We are working to get it fixed, but we don’t have an ETA on when it will be back up for download – might be a few days. It was just pulled in the past 30 minutes."
There was a way to install Ndless 3.1 ? :P
IMO the price is not too bad, but the issue is that the iPad itself costs $499.99 and higher. I think real calcs still have a chance to thrive as long as the majority of tablets remains at higher price than calcs or that those apps are not released on cheap mobile phones as well. And even then the phones lack a PTT mode.QuoteI hope this doesn't mark the beginning of the end of actual calcs, though x.xI think it does, at least for some market segments.
Without rehashing once again the specifics of what I wrote many times over the last few months (even though I didn't know TI was working on an iPad app), it's safe to say that calculators are severely underpowered / severely overpriced (there's a huge mismatch between functionality and price tag). A $199 / €199 Nexus 7 so thoroughly trashes even the Nspire CX series in terms of functionality and versatility, for less than twice the price tag, that it isn't funny :)
The price tag of $29.99 for the iPad app is sane enough, though probably too high as well. At least, it shows the direction TI should, IMO, be heading in: slashing the prices of their entire calculator roster, and somehow forcing resellers to slash their margins as well. For its performance and functionality level, compared to a Nexus 7, the CX might stand a chance in the marketplace if it were, say, $50 for the consumer. The TI-68k series should be $35-$40, the TI-Z80 series $25-$35, and the scientific calculators < $20.
Maybe the distribution chains are too long.
IMO the price is not too bad, but the issue is that the iPad itself costs $499.99 and higher.It's both, as both calculators and the iPad are way too expensive for their specs :)
I think real calcs still have a chance to thrive as long as the majority of tablets remains at higher price than calcs or that those apps are not released on cheap mobile phones as well.The price of tablets keeps decreasing for ever increasing functionality, driven by companies whose business model is less hell-bent on milking customers through overly high prices than Apple is. Apple will have to slash the iP* prices to cope with fierce competition in the marketplace, otherwise their market shares will dwindle even further than they already have (see one of my previous posts)...
And even then the phones lack a PTT mode.I take it that it could be added easily :)
Pulling an app and indicating that the cause is security-related isn't necessarily very smart a move for Apple / TI. Differential code analysis, should anyone undertake it, could pinpoint the problem and hint for attack vectors."Security issue" could also mean that Apple told them to remove programmability, particularly if the language is as powerful as Lua, couldn't it?
Officiel statement: "Immediately after the TI-Nspire Apps for iPad were posted on the App Store, we discovered an issue with App Store settings and have temporarily removed these apps from the store. We are working to update these settings and will repost the apps as soon as possible. "
No no no, my edit apparently didn't get seen :Well nobody misunderstood your initial post when they saw security in it, because it really said Security issue :PQuoteOfficiel statement: "Immediately after the TI-Nspire Apps for iPad were posted on the App Store, we discovered an issue with App Store settings and have temporarily removed these apps from the store. We are working to update these settings and will repost the apps as soon as possible. "
I don't know why it was first said to be a "security" issue since the real thing behind all this, from the user point of view, really has nothing to do with a flaw/exploit or anything. It was just a bug, maybe with syncing (?) or something, since it's said to be related to the App Store settings. The bug was annoying, at first, but that the auto-saving feature made "acceptable" in certain conditions, since the launch time is quite fast. (but once it's fixed, it's definitely going to be better.)
Also, ikj, it's not an emulator, the whole thing has been rewritten and compiled for iOS.
EDIT :
Got this from TI : "The App has been temporarily pulled this morning due to a security issue in the final build. We are working to get it fixed, but we don’t have an ETA on when it will be back up for download – might be a few days. It was just pulled in the past 30 minutes."
Oh wait I forgot about that Apple restriction junk. Programming languages are against the rules, so since it's possible to use TI-BASIC on the Nspire Student software emulator it would prevent it from being released on the AppStore. However now that this is brought up, I thought emulators were banned from the AppStore althogether? ???Apple bans video game emulators because they don't want to deal with legal issues from console manufacturers. They do allow programming apps now, but everything has to be self contained.
Also, ikj, it's not an emulator, the whole thing has been rewritten and compiled for iOS.That's what I said (or tried to say) but in more detail, yes.
What's New in Version 3.4.1
- Added: iOS 6.1 support
- Added: iPad with Retina support
- Improved: Bug fixes and optimizations
So it wasn't the fact that it featured user programmable stuff?(which everybody's nagging about for some reason)Nah :P
Yeah I am curious about what was the security issue, although it could just have been a typical security exploit like some stuff Internet Explorer had on Windows, letting people access your iPad or something.Nothing important. More of a user-annoying bug AFAIK.
Texas Instruments unveils breakthrough TI-Nspire Apps for iPad®
TI extends its most powerful graphing technology into apps
that will change the way students visualize, engage and interact with math
Now available on the App Store
DALLAS (February 20, 2013) – Texas Instruments (TI), the most trusted brand in graphing calculator technology, “took a major step forward in our mission to improve student understanding and achievement in mathematics” with the release today of two new innovative apps: TI-Nspire™ App for iPad and TI-Nspire™ CAS App for iPad, said Melendy Lovett, president of Texas Instruments Education Technology.
“The apps fill a critical need for an all-in-one math teaching and learning tool designed specifically for the iPad,” said Lovett. “TI is extending the proven benefits of TI-Nspire technology to the tablet platform. TI’s goals are to provide educators with the most powerful math apps for the iPad and to engage students while helping them reach a deeper conceptual understanding of math. Beyond the new Apps for iPad, TI continues to support teachers by providing world-class professional development (http://education.ti.com/calculators/pd/US/), and access to free classroom-ready activities for use with the TI-Nspire Apps for iPad; activities can be integrated seamlessly into curriculum and are available at TI’s Math Nspired (http://education.ti.com/calculators/timathnspired/) website.”
The TI-Nspire Apps for iPad were designed and refined in collaboration with researchers and classroom teachers, including Stephanie Ogden, Dean of Research and Development at L&N STEM Academy in Knoxville, TN, who also teaches Pre-Calculus, AP* Calculus, AP* Statistics and STEM.
“The TI-Nspire Apps for iPad are truly transparent technology, allowing students to touch and interact with math with little awareness of the tool in their hands. Students experience mathematics more directly and they are beyond engaged—they are excited about learning,” Ogden said.
Unique features of the apps, which meet critical curriculum needs from 7th grade through college, include:In addition, the TI-Nspire CAS App for iPad has a powerful built-in Computer Algebra System (CAS) which enables students to symbolically solve equations, factor and expand variable expressions, complete the square, find derivatives, compute limits, find exact solutions in irrational form and much more.
- All-in-one functionality for performing calculations in proper math notation; graphing and exploring functions, equations and inequalities; constructing and exploring geometric figures; creating, plotting and analyzing data in lists and spreadsheets.
- Interactive keyboard that toggles between math notation and QWERTY configurations for placing notes and instructions alongside problems.
- Dynamically linked multiple representations of problems that encourage students to make crucial connections by observing how equations change as they touch and interact with shapes, graphs and objects on the screen.
- Familiar operations for creating and saving documents and sharing them using email, iTunes®, and other file sharing options.
- Interaction with the built-in iPad camera interface that enables students to take photos, import them into the app and overlay graphs and equations on them to illustrate abstract math principles in the physical world.
TI-Nspire Apps for iPad will be featured in two full days of workshops and break-out sessions at the 2013 T3 International Conference (http://education.ti.com/calculators/pd/US/International/) held March 8-10 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
The TI-Nspire App for iPad (http://education.ti.com/nspire/itunes) and TI-Nspire CAS App for iPad (http://education.ti.com/nspirecas/itunes) are available for $29.99 each from the App Store on iPad or at http://www.AppStore.com. Teachers are eligible to receive a free, one-year license of the TI-Nspire and TI-Nspire CAS Teacher Software with purchase of one of the TI-Nspire Apps for iPad. Detailed information about the TI-Nspire Apps for iPad, including a brief video overview, is available at http://education.ti.com/ipad .
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