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TI removes native code support from TI-83 Premium CE/TI-84 Plus CE
Jean-Baptiste Boric:
--- Quote from: Eeems on May 28, 2020, 11:08:38 am ---What is your opinion on this change by TI?
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We haven't seen them doing something that stupid since the TI signing key legal mess a decade ago. They've truly outdone themselves this time. Throwing their community off a cliff without a warning by removing an advertised feature and deciding that the squeaky toy that is their Python port shall be a replacement of ASM/C, no take-backs.
Vote with your wallet. Don't buy TI. They do not care about anything but money.
--- Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 29, 2020, 06:25:32 pm ---From what I could understand, a TI-83 Premium CE python program cannot be larger than 17.7 KB of executable code and there are a few commands that are proprietary rather than actual python.
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You'd be lucky to get a Python script bigger than ~5 KiB running. MicroPython scripts on calculators tend to require 2 to 4 times their size in heap in order not to run out of memory.
ACagliano:
I posted this to Cemetech and now am here and will also on Codewalrus.
--- Quote ---I would even propose calling TI's bluff on something. Write TI a letter, signed by a EVERY major calc development community - Cemetech, Omnimaga, Codewalrus (unity is important on this), informing them that if they do not revise their decision on C/asm, and implement exam security in a way that is conducive to teaching, learning, and doing programming, we the community will be designing, releasing and marketing our own calculator to compete with them. And if they do not walk it back.. actually follow through.
There is no action legally they could take to prevent this: it would be our own hardware and programming, no copying of names, symbols, anything. Free market, people can compete with whoever they want.
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Eeems:
--- Quote from: ACagliano on June 09, 2020, 01:50:20 pm ---I posted this to Cemetech and now am here and will also on Codewalrus.
--- Quote ---I would even propose calling TI's bluff on something. Write TI a letter, signed by a EVERY major calc development community - Cemetech, Omnimaga, Codewalrus (unity is important on this), informing them that if they do not revise their decision on C/asm, and implement exam security in a way that is conducive to teaching, learning, and doing programming, we the community will be designing, releasing and marketing our own calculator to compete with them. And if they do not walk it back.. actually follow through.
There is no action legally they could take to prevent this: it would be our own hardware and programming, no copying of names, symbols, anything. Free market, people can compete with whoever they want.
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What bluff? We don't make up enough of their customer base for them to care. Not to mention, we'd need to be competing with them in a space that they already have competition in (HP & Casio). We would need to get the calculator we create to be approved for use on standardized tests, which is not easy, or cheap.
E37:
--- Quote from: Eeems on June 09, 2020, 02:17:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: ACagliano on June 09, 2020, 01:50:20 pm ---I posted this to Cemetech and now am here and will also on Codewalrus.
--- Quote ---I would even propose calling TI's bluff on something. Write TI a letter, signed by a EVERY major calc development community - Cemetech, Omnimaga, Codewalrus (unity is important on this), informing them that if they do not revise their decision on C/asm, and implement exam security in a way that is conducive to teaching, learning, and doing programming, we the community will be designing, releasing and marketing our own calculator to compete with them. And if they do not walk it back.. actually follow through.
There is no action legally they could take to prevent this: it would be our own hardware and programming, no copying of names, symbols, anything. Free market, people can compete with whoever they want.
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What bluff? We don't make up enough of their customer base for them to care. Not to mention, we'd need to be competing with them in a space that they already have competition in (HP & Casio). We would need to get the calculator we create to be approved for use on standardized tests, which is not easy, or cheap.
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If we would be able to make any threats it would be that we would circumvent test security. But since that is (likely) more possible with assembly and basic I don't see that we would have any leverage. Wouldn't our best option to be to hope for an exploit to make custom cracked OSes that allow assembly?
NonstickAtom785:
That't demo was hilarious DJ Omnimaga! God I hate how TI has gone and jabbed a knife in our backs!
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