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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2011, 07:51:27 pm »
thats a good idea as long as it can be easily implemented. but again you dont wanna upset or deter good users at the same time. so the question is whats the best balance of getting people to read the rules and not hurting the experience of the website. again you dont wanna cram it down their throats, but get them wary and to understand the rules. you could implement a formal warning system, one warning, then suspension the prolonged suspension the you get kicked off of you violate that

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2011, 08:28:35 pm »
Yeah, you don't want to go too far. I personally find those “have to scroll to the bottom before clicking Accept” things already annoying enough, and they don't make me any more likely to read them. Limit the scroll rate, and I would very likely not bother with accepting or signing up at all.

Now if only lawyers would actually wake up and learn how to trim down the fluff enough to avoid scrolling altogether, maybe someone would actually bother reading EULAs. :)
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2011, 08:34:59 pm »
Maybe have two versions of the rules, one normal and the other like wikipedia's "simple english" (or french or dutch or whatever)
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2011, 08:41:29 pm »
I was just going to suggest that. Maybe have one version that everyone can read, and one filled with legalese (the "official" one).

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2011, 08:43:25 pm »
I would prefer to not have too many versions to update. We have like 3 after all. I'M not sure why everyone is so much against shorter version of our rules and want to complicate things so much. X.x

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2011, 08:46:27 pm »
I actually would prefer a shorter version of the rules myself, most of it seems like common sense anyway :P
I could understand how some people want more detail, though.
Still, some people find it hard to understand the long, (not really) complicated speech, but oh well
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2011, 10:22:44 pm »
maybe less is truly more hahaha

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2011, 11:32:58 pm »
Also extremly long rules can scare away people, as they might fear posting sometimes, thinking many stuff is not allowed.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2011, 01:04:20 pm »
I'm not too sure about increasing the post count, although I guess that could be a temporary measure. People get pissed at the 20 posts limit already. X.x

yep I got a little pissed, if you could say so, when I saw the 20 posts req for the OmnomIRC, as I'm not that active. But if 20 isn't enough to deter the trolls/a**holes, the 50-100 would stop 99.5% of potential troublemakers...

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2011, 01:41:59 pm »
I post left and you can go on ;)
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2011, 01:43:17 pm »
Yeah I guess it can be understood. The thing, though, is that spammers and bots were always a factor that caused me to setup a post count limit. At 0-5 posts it's much easier for them to spam/flood. Another reason is that then the channel would get flooded with newbie questions that are best asked on the forums rather than a chat. Plus, we can connect to the IRC channel directly anyway. It's just less hassle to use OmnomIRC.

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2011, 01:44:12 pm »
I like OmnomIRC more than Efnet, actually
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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2011, 02:31:24 pm »
I like shorter rules, Although most of it is really common sense.  ;)

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2011, 03:11:24 pm »
Yeah this is what I thought. I think
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2: Negative/rude/destructive comments towards someone's project or program based on file size, amount of sub-programs and programming language/libraries used in attempt to discourage the author of the said program. Criticism should be intended to make the person's program better in its current form.

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1: Rude and provocative comments aimed at people or their contribution to the community. Please be nice and constructive while criticizing or helping people.

I think that should still be clear that telling someone "Yer pogram suxxorz!!" is not allowed and to use common sense when criticizing (not telling someone his programs is not good because it has more than 1 sub-program or uses pics, when there were no other way around that).

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Re: Ultimatum
« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2011, 03:35:03 pm »
I edited the rules a bit, what do ya'll think?

Also, I edited some of it for grammar also, there were some minor mistakes.  ;)

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2: Don't double post unless there have been 6 hours since your last post, 3 hours if your thread is not on the New Posts page, 1 hour if it's a project update. You can also double post immediately to upload more than 10 attachments at once. Otherwise, update the last post using the "EDIT" button.

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