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In a previous news came out the new Ndless 3.1 r765 with USB support! :D

For the moment, USB support is not available from Ndless programs, but it allows the use of USB devices that are not officially supported in the Nspire OS.

Currently, only USB keyboards and mice are supported through Ndless.



The first problem you'll have is the connection of these devices. Because in order to work properly here, they will have to be connected to the TI-Nspire via a mini-USB A (male) plug you'll have a lot of trouble finding because it has been abandoned by the USB standard.

However, several solutions do exist.


Firstly the barbaric method: just take the mini-USB A (male) <-> mini-USB B (male) cable coming with any TI USB graphic calculator and sacrifice it in order to replace the mini-USB B (male) plug by a USB B (female) plug in order to be able to connect USB devices equipped with an USB A (male) plug.




You can also directly buy this type of cable. But as they do not conform to the USB standard, they will be available exclusively online at a few shops and therefore expensive.



Or if you're a little smarter, just use a method of my invention which will have all the benefits! :bj:

Simply buy a USB hub that connects to the host via a removable cable and a mini-USB B (female) plug.

You can then connect directly to the TI-Nspire with the mini-USB cable A (male) <-> mini-USB B (male) provided with the calculator!

No need to sacrifice your cable anymore! ;D
And as a bonus you can connect USB keyboard and mouse simultaneously! ;D



Let's test:

USB mouse and keyboard work very well together! ;D

For the mice, it is sometimes difficult to activate the pointer when it is hidden - but if you think about it, this is the TI-Nspire OS fault - it is not uncommon to have to polish the TouchPad for long seconds touch before the pointer shows up. So in short nothing wrong, it just works as weel as the TouchPad. ;D

For the keyboard, too little keys are supported in order to get rid of the TI-Nspire keyboard.
We've got:
  • control keys
  • Shift keys
  • alphabetic keys
  • numpad keys
  • arrow keys
  • entry key
Except those on the numpad, symbols aren't supported yet.



But very soon, you'll be able to use your TI-Nspire handheld with the same comfort as the TI-Nspire computer software! ;D

See you soon! :D



Source:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11634&lang=en

Link:
Topic with a different video testing USB mice and keyboard together too
« Last Edit: April 21, 2013, 07:56:28 am by critor »
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For the keyboard, too little keys are supported in order to get rid of the TI-Nspire keyboard.

I'll rework the entire keyboard mapping in the next update.
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I forsee an internet browser/USB MSD for Nspires...
No joke. Wifi on this thing is now DEFINITELY possible.
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You can also directly buy this type of cable. But as they do not conform to the USB standard, they will be available exclusively online at a few shops and therefore expensive.
That does conform to the USB standard. The USB A plug makes it act just like a hub, because the Mini-A are the same as standard-A, just a different size.
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Haha, nice idea with the hub ^^

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What he means is that USB manufacturers no longer support mini-A
They just aren't used often anymore
Keep trying.

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Very cool Critor :D

By the way, by USB hub do you mean "Concentrateur USB"? If it's the case, then a lot of stores here sells those (from $19.99 to $199.99), but if it's not the case, then I would have to look online for that too.

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woah, this is totally awesome :D
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That's a mini-B plug at the end. Using DIY methods like this will get it to work (speaking from experience), but if this is all you're going to use it for you might want a proper mini-A plug.



Note the color of the plastic inside the plug, as well as the shape.
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Hi,
first of all: very cool critor!
second, can you make also a HIDn-version for QWERTZ-keyboards?

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 HIDn is already compatible with AZERTY and QWERTY keyboards, just rename the file. Please see the readme file.
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Hum. He's actually asking for qwertz.
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HIDn is already compatible with AZERTY and QWERTY keyboards, just rename the file. Please see the readme file.
Hum. He's actually asking for qwerty.
He asked for QWERTZ, not QWERTY, which is logical considering he put "Location: Germany" in his profile ;)
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And I meant QWERTZ but dat stupid phone acted up once again. :P