Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2005, 06:17:00 am
http://superkidinc.com
Post by: VahnRPG on September 11, 2005, 07:06:00 am
Blue World Quest - Hopes & Dreams. One uses an enchanced version of the original battle system and the other uses a fighting style system. Really cool, I think.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2005, 07:08:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 11, 2005, 07:13:00 am
There are other differences and similarities, but for the most part the only difference between the 2 games is the battle systems.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2005, 07:18:00 am
(those avatar/sigs reminds me Master_Jc sigs , I mean the style %)
)Post by: VahnRPG on September 11, 2005, 07:27:00 am
As for the ava/sig, I dunno. I just drew 'em by hand (the sig pic is taken from my old comic) and have been usin 'em.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2005, 07:44:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 11, 2005, 07:59:00 am
So, 5 20k files, that's 100k for the story alone. The program itself takes 5 app pages so about 80k. Assuming you have a normal 83+ (such as myself. That's all I got ;_;) then that's OVER the flash ram. Can't really have an entire chapter file in the ram, either, because I'd require about...6k of ram. So, 20k + 6k > 24k of ram. So, you can't have the flash app, 4 chapter files in flash, and one in the ram and be able to run it just fine. Granted, I'm not sure how many people would do this, but there are some CRAZY people out there in calc land ;)
Yeah, I'm trying to use compression. What I'll be planning on doing is cutting out the current map and all the stuff it needs then uncompressing that into an appvar (basically) and have that in the ram. For the battles, I'm planning on having sprite flipping for the fighting system (thanks to being able to jump) so that'd require me to have an external file for the flipped sprites. And there'd have to be 2 of them, one for the player sprites and the other for the enemy. So, as you can see, it's a tight squeeze...
So, my options are either 1 5-page app + 5 chapter external files, 1 9~1-page app containing everything, or 5 5-page apps. Regardless, I'd have to make it WORTH the space taken up. The overall story is moderately long (compared to MtSQuest) but the chapters themselves don't involve much more than "go from map 1 to map X." In other words, fairly short compared to the full game of MtSQuest. So, I have to do something to make up for that time difference. Leveling up works differently in this game, using EXP to level up, with each map having it's own base level and once you are 'out of range' you can't level up there any more, so in a sense you are forced to go from one chapter to the next. Meaning you can't max out your levels in Chapter 1 and not have to worry about leveling for the rest of the game :P
That'd make it REALLY short ;)So, my only other option is minigames and puzzles...which I'm not sure how I'd do. You're basically wandering around in the wilderness and, realistically, how often are you going to come across a puzzle walking around? This ain't zelda ;)
So much to do, so much to do...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 11, 2005, 08:59:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 11, 2005, 05:39:00 pm
Actually, right now I'm thinking of making it all 1 big app...REALLY big app, that is...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 12, 2005, 03:11:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 12, 2005, 05:44:00 pm
Post by: Ranman on September 13, 2005, 12:21:00 am
Have each chapter as a separate file. Let the user decide how many he/she wants to load on to the calc. If they only want one chapter, when they finish it they will have to wait. This allows them to load other programs as well. If they have lots of memory, they could load every chapter.
Your RPG would have to search for existing files... not too hard ;)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 13, 2005, 01:07:00 am
| QUOTE (VahnRPG @ 13 September 2005, 0:44) |
| well, if you don't have a computer, how do you get the game to the calc? unless you got it from a friend |
during free time (like dinner time) you go on a school computer connect your calc and send the first part of the game to it, but then if you finish the first part you have to wait the next time you have computer access to be able to send the next part to your calc, and that is annoying, I remember doing that with FFTOM, I had to redownload the whole game every time because I used a different compy everytime, and on top of that some computer didnt detected my calc :paf:
Post by: VahnRPG on September 13, 2005, 04:19:00 am
| QUOTE (David Randall @ 13 September 2005, 6:21) |
| You could do both :) Have each chapter as a separate file. Let the user decide how many he/she wants to load on to the calc. If they only want one chapter, when they finish it they will have to wait. This allows them to load other programs as well. If they have lots of memory, they could load every chapter. Your RPG would have to search for existing files... not too hard ;) |
yeah, that's what I was planning on doing originally. Whenever it gets to the end of one part, it just checks for the next and goes on.
However, I decided that for now I'll worry more about getting the maps made and go from there than tie myself down to a particular method. Just makes more sense that way, doesn't it ^^'
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 14, 2005, 12:57:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 14, 2005, 01:46:00 pm
Anyway, any new info I have on the game will be put in this topic on my own forum:
http://www.superkidinc.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25
Enjoy ^^'
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 14, 2005, 02:16:00 pm
Post by: tr1p1ea on September 15, 2005, 11:24:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 15, 2005, 05:35:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 17, 2005, 02:10:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 18, 2005, 05:26:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 18, 2005, 05:58:00 am
actually I think making battles more RPG ish would be cool, I liek RPGs a lot :)
maybe make it longer and make NPCs givew some advices on how or where to find special moves :)
Post by: VahnRPG on September 18, 2005, 07:26:00 am
I'm working on better ones :P
Gameplay: 7/10 Very hard
I dunno why you think it's hard. I, personally, can get to lvl 4 and halfway through the game before I start having problems :P
Storyline: 10/10 Good storyline
Eh. It wasn't very indepth, you didn't know who any of the characters were, and overall it was just very linear IMO. If anything, I'd give this the lowest rating :P
Replay value: 6/10 Hmm? not my style.
Replay value was next to non-existant. The only possible desire you could get to play the game just storyline wise would be to get that last Normal Art (takes 4 wins to get to if you don't know it already, if memory serves me) and the story doesn't change from one to the next. Actually, I'd give this the lowest rating...
maybe make it longer and make NPCs givew some advices on how or where to find special moves smile.gif
Yeah, I'm working on the longer part, and as for the NPCs I'm not too sure how I'll do the acquiring of special attacks...
Post by: Master Jc on September 18, 2005, 11:33:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 18, 2005, 06:25:00 pm
Post by: Ranman on September 18, 2005, 06:32:00 pm
| QUOTE (VahnRPG @ 13 September 2005, 10:19) |
| However, I decided that for now I'll worry more about getting the maps made and go from there than tie myself down to a particular method. Just makes more sense that way, doesn't it |
I agree... Code first and optimize later ;)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 19, 2005, 02:11:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on September 19, 2005, 04:35:00 am
Post by: VahnRPG on October 21, 2005, 06:46:00 am
Anyway, what with Kev's awesome XXR, tr1p's Desolate, Spencer's Zelda, and all this other stuff going around, i need...something. Something to make my game really...neeto, for lack of a better word. Perhaps not make my game "revolutionary," but something to just make it something awesome and remembered (in a positive way) for years to come. Something I can feel PROUD of. However, I got no clue what to do >.>
So, any ideas? :D
Post by: Spellshaper on October 21, 2005, 07:12:00 am
here, what I thought of for my RPG:
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Well, what my Battle system is (supposed) gonna work like: basicely it works like the battle system of Grandia2 (great computer RPG, inspired me a lot!), what means that it will be semirealtime. action bar | \/ __________________|_____________| -----wait bar--------readyness bar-- the action bar will be segmented into 2 parts. the first and bigger part is the wait bar. it slowly fills according on hoe u distribute ur attribute points. When the wait bar is full, u choose your action (attacks, magics, move, items). After you have chosen your action, the second bar (readyness bar) begins to fill up. The speed with which the readyness bar is filled up is not dependable from ur stats, but from the chosen action and the level of the action. normally, the mightier the chosen action, the longer u have to ready yourself to do it (example: chanting time for spells). When the readyness bar is full, the chosen actin takes place. Besides damage, normal attacks also stop the progress of the enemy Post by: VahnRPG on October 21, 2005, 07:31:00 am I never really could figure out how to have it so that you both are just standing there, waiting for the other person to attack. Well, what I mean is, in 'real life' it just...doesn't...make..sense, ya know? And that's what i'm going for in my fantasy games, a sense of realism :P Good idea, tho ;)
Post by: Spellshaper on October 21, 2005, 07:38:00 am Post by: VahnRPG on January 14, 2006, 04:23:00 pm ahem, anyway, i've been working a tad bit on the game. actually, replace "tad bit" with "bit bigger tad bit." Last time I was working on MtSQuest to try and clean it up a bit, I was trying to put the linking combos system into THAT game and somehow accidentally completely switched to the Blue World - Quest code. Anyway, I've worked on it a tad. It now uses the maps from MtSQuest...but they are capable of scrolling. I say capable because although the engine allows for smooth scrolling maps, the maps from MtSQuest fit the screen so there's nothing to scroll ^^' However, the sprite DOES move pixel-by-pixel which makes it a tad bit annoying when you're trying to get into a small opening (or, any opening, come to think of it). Just takes a bit of getting used to. Don't worry, it won't ALWAYS be the small maps, this is just for testing purposes. Anyway, I've started working on the Normal Arts abilities but not the Hyper Arts (too lazy to draw up more sprites). Unlike MtSQuest, when a NA punches or kicks it will do damage like a regular punch or kick. The most Normal Art does at max level is close to 700 damage before any defense stat is figured. Add to that that you can link combos and you could seriously toast an enemy with little difficulty. Of course, because of this, I'll be making sure the enemies have a healthy supply of HP and a reasonable amount of defense :P Oh, and I've also decided to drop the fighting-style system. It would've required a larger game and much more work to make decent (like, sprite flipping and jumping). Sorry to all those who were hopin for it :(  More later all! Post by: Liazon on January 14, 2006, 04:39:00 pm
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cant wait to hear more :D