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Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on October 28, 2007, 07:11:00 am
This is kind of a place holder topic to remind me that I have to start working on this soon.  I've always wanted to code an RPG for z80 calculators and 68k calculators, but I've never had the time, nor the spriting skill.  I definitely want to get this done soon, but I'll have to see...

That is to say, N is not dead per se, but I'd be very happy to see someone else finish it, and do what I couldn't because of time constraints.  Good luck with that.

As for Nanocrisis, that maybe revived in the near future as a topdown action RPG, but I'll have to see.

Like my sig says, I could use some sprites, although I'd prefer to do them myself.

This topic is for any open discussion on what you'd like to see in an RPG.

Thanks!!
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Speler on October 28, 2007, 09:04:00 am
Sounds great!  I hope to see this progress nicely :)smile.gif.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 28, 2007, 09:36:00 am
awesome liazon! And i liked your sprites you shown me, nice job on them :)smile.gif

So this is gonna be a bit like mmo style?
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Ranman on October 28, 2007, 10:08:00 am
Don't let RPGs fool you...

It may be easier when writing your own RPG from scratch. But for remakes or ports of an existing RPG, it can be difficult to mimic the original implementation. ;)wink.gif I have been working on Ultima V for 3 years now. :wacko:triso2.gif

Good luck! :)smile.gif
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on October 29, 2007, 11:17:00 am
Thanks everyone!

Well Kevin, it's a maybe.  I kind of want to focus on gameplay and less on graphics.  I'm not a super at spriting, so I know I'm not going to focus on something trivial like that unless people feel graphics are very important.  Besides, there is only so much you can do at 64x96, even in 4 level gs.  I don't plan to use gs because I don't think I can make 8x8 sprites that are much better than b/w ones.  Maybe on the 68k it would be okay.

As for gameplay, I want to see how far I can push RPG complexity.  I was thinking that since graphics will probably lack, I'd like to get good gameplay.  Like I mentioned to DJ_Omnimaga, I'm shooting for MMO in the sense of diversity.  A lot more NPC interaction and involvement in story progression.

That being said, does that appeal to people?
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Speler on October 29, 2007, 11:30:00 am
That sounds fine.  However, it's better to have good graphics then bad ones.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on October 29, 2007, 11:41:00 am
QuoteBegin-Super Speler+29 Oct, 2007, 16:3-->
QUOTE (Super Speler @ 29 Oct, 2007, 16:30)
That sounds fine.  However, it's better to have good graphics then bad ones.  

 lol, these days, that seems kinda relative ^^

I might get a sprite sheet out and ask for suggestions later, but I kinda want to keep sprites secret for a bit...
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Halifax on October 29, 2007, 02:11:00 pm
*Halifax
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 29, 2007, 05:35:00 pm
True for graphics, altough to me it isn' the most important thing in a game, I saw crappy games with good graphics on calc

That said keep up the good work liazon
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 02, 2007, 11:41:00 am
after certain considerations, I'm now open to the idea of greyscale.  but that means that it might be a 2 -3 page app since i originally planned for 1-2 pages.

is anyone against gs?
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 02, 2007, 03:10:00 pm
not me, providing it is easy to implement ^^
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: trevmeister66 on November 02, 2007, 04:04:00 pm
I'm for gray scale, and i'm fine with the app size no matter what it is.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 02, 2007, 04:27:00 pm
uhm no about that it must be under 300 KB for me, because ti-connect gives me errors when i try sending anything bigger :(sad.gif
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 02, 2007, 05:14:00 pm
That's 4.6 APP pages, which must be rounded down to 4.

What did you have that was more than that?
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 02, 2007, 05:16:00 pm
realsound apps
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 02, 2007, 05:22:00 pm
o.oblink.gif .... how....?

Well, I think I might upgrade to 16x16 gs, so it's basically back to the drawing board for me.

I might release the sprites I had been working on earlier if people want them.  I think we should start some kind of sprite data base similar to project-charas.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 03, 2007, 03:04:00 am
yeah that would be a good idea, especially if someone is desesperately in need of sprites to finish a project (this happen often, even to me)

user posted image

Those are RPG Maker 2003's btw
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 03, 2007, 04:04:00 am
o.oblink.gif those are 16x16???

well, this project really won't progress much until after we make sure Lost Legends is completed.  Hey, maybe we should be the official host or something?  If that's okay w/ grendel.

well DJ_Omnimaga, the main sprites I have to redo are the people sprites, but you're the only one who know what I wanted to do w/ them.  So don't tell!!
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 03, 2007, 04:07:00 am
ok I'll keep the secret don't worry :)smile.gif
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 03, 2007, 08:55:00 am
QUOTE
well DJ_Omnimaga, the main sprites I have to redo are the people sprites, but you're the only one who know what I wanted to do w/ them. So don't tell!!

Wha? o.oblink.gifArt_of_camelot is confused... Whenever you start work on this i dont mind helping with sprites. Just lemme know if u want help/when you wana start :)smile.gif.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Speler on November 03, 2007, 10:15:00 am
Some of those would look good as monochrome, mind if I use :)smile.gif.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 03, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
They're DJ_Omnimaga's and he doesn't mind.

@Art_of_camelot:  Sure, I'd really appreciate your help when I get this going again.  When I do, I'll PM the details of what I want you to do, cuz I've got specific instructions.

I just hope all the data and code can fit into 300 kb, otherwise I'd be screwed w/ gs.
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 03, 2007, 02:24:00 pm
kk sounds great :)smile.gif
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 03, 2007, 03:56:00 pm
please gives credits to Enterbrain since they comes from RPG Maker 2003. I converted them to grayscale tho
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 23, 2007, 11:59:00 am
i just have to ask, but are there tiles for a pirate ship snuck in there?
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Zera on November 23, 2007, 01:37:00 pm
Liazon, there is indeed a ship in there. However, don't you think the tileset is a bit... huge? Drawing a single ship would require about 30 or so different tiles from that set, and many of them won't even be visible on the map. (due to limitations with the resolution -- you won't be able to see the lower half of the ship at all)

If you like, I could design a similar set with less tiles per theme. You would just neeed to specificy what sort of areas you have in mind. Like if you want a castle set, a town set, a dungeon set and a ship set...

Bear in mind, Lost Legends only uses 72 tiles, and Lost Legends II (more detailed) uses 108. (roughly 4 different theme sets crammed together, with minimal objects)
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 24, 2007, 04:13:00 pm
lol i was just wondering because up to this point I had no idea why there were random triangle shapes in there ^^ then i noticed the cannon :Ptongue.gif ^^
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 24, 2007, 08:15:00 pm
they are ship tiles actually, but it would be extremly big on calc, I would suggest combining some of them and try them together to see if you coudlnt make a smaller ship with them

EDIT: LOL I mystyped ship as s***  :rofl:rotfl.gif
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: Liazon on November 25, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
lol like i said before, I just couldn't figure out what they were until i saw the cannon and the mast ^^

the edit was funny ^^
Title: Children of Chaos
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 25, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
QuoteBegin-Liazon+25 Nov, 2007, 19:06-->
QUOTE (Liazon @ 25 Nov, 2007, 19:06)
lol like i said before, I just couldn't figure out what they were until i saw the cannon and the mast ^^

 n00b



j/k :Ptongue.gif