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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2013, 07:38:27 pm »
Since this stuff is starting up again, what are the sprite sizes for this? The poll says 8*8 monochrome, but I think 16*16 would be better (for details and stuff). What do you guys think?
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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2013, 07:47:33 pm »
I was just going to ask this, too. From the tilemapping end, 8x8 is much easier and it is faster. I don't know if you saw the screenies in some of the other topics, but I included some tiles that were grouped together to form 16x16 tiles and some even larger. Using 8x8 tiles will give us the ability to still create and use 'fake' 16x16 tiles, along with 8x8 tiles for better detail in that way. From the perspective of data size and compression, I have been working on a tilemap compression routine that will compress be able to store large tiles (like houses or very large trees or anything else that is comprised of multiple 8x8 tiles) as a single byte, then upon decompression to RAM, it will simply take that byte and expand it to however large it needs to be. I would get into more detail on the compression methods I have in mind, but I will save that for the Coding topic.

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2013, 07:50:34 pm »
I was just going to ask this, too. From the tilemapping end, 8x8 is much easier and it is faster. I don't know if you saw the screenies in some of the other topics, but I included some tiles that were grouped together to form 16x16 tiles and some even larger. Using 8x8 tiles will give us the ability to still create and use 'fake' 16x16 tiles, along with 8x8 tiles for better detail in that way. From the perspective of data size and compression, I have been working on a tilemap compression routine that will compress be able to store large tiles (like houses or very large trees or anything else that is comprised of multiple 8x8 tiles) as a single byte, then upon decompression to RAM, it will simply take that byte and expand it to however large it needs to be. I would get into more detail on the compression methods I have in mind, but I will save that for the Coding topic.

So, are we going to do 8*8 tiles to make 16*16 tiles?
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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #93 on: September 11, 2013, 07:56:40 am »
I was just going to ask this, too. From the tilemapping end, 8x8 is much easier and it is faster. I don't know if you saw the screenies in some of the other topics, but I included some tiles that were grouped together to form 16x16 tiles and some even larger. Using 8x8 tiles will give us the ability to still create and use 'fake' 16x16 tiles, along with 8x8 tiles for better detail in that way. From the perspective of data size and compression, I have been working on a tilemap compression routine that will compress be able to store large tiles (like houses or very large trees or anything else that is comprised of multiple 8x8 tiles) as a single byte, then upon decompression to RAM, it will simply take that byte and expand it to however large it needs to be. I would get into more detail on the compression methods I have in mind, but I will save that for the Coding topic.

So, are we going to do 8*8 tiles to make 16*16 tiles?
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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2013, 01:48:26 pm »
Lol yeah IMO 8*8 with some 16*16 made of four tiles is the way to go for both technical reasons and for details (ie big trees vs small doors). ;)

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2013, 04:50:23 pm »
Okay for tiles, but game characters ? Monsters ?

EDIT : also, what about the color ? Will sprites be monochrome or 3-level gray (I think 4 is out of the question) ?
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 04:51:50 pm by Matrefeytontias »

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2013, 04:59:52 pm »
Okay for tiles, but game characters ? Monsters ?

EDIT : also, what about the color ? Will sprites be monochrome or 3-level gray (I think 4 is out of the question) ?
Why would 4 be out of question ?
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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2013, 05:12:00 pm »
Because an RPG with tilemapping, masked collisions, NPCs and battle handling won't bear 4-level gray IMO. And also because Axe 4-level gray in a RPG become horrible on an 83+ BE as soon as you do anything more than DispGraphrr in a loop. Example, I find Ash:Phoenix totally unplayable on my calc.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 05:13:01 pm by Matrefeytontias »

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #98 on: September 11, 2013, 05:41:51 pm »
Here's a tree I just made:


I don't know if it will be good enough for this (not sure what point of view angle thing we are viewing it from).
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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #99 on: September 12, 2013, 02:41:02 am »
Tried to make it look better.

EDIT : MOAR SPRITES! I'm getting obsessed with pixel art! :p
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 03:19:22 am by Eiyeron »

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #100 on: September 12, 2013, 03:21:50 am »
I especially like the opening door animation :)

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #101 on: September 12, 2013, 03:40:23 am »
MOAR HOUSE PARTS! And edited the left part a little bit.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 03:40:32 am by Eiyeron »

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #102 on: September 12, 2013, 04:07:13 am »
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So I guess we go with monochrome ?

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2013, 04:33:22 am »
Yeah, it's a calc game so even if we now master greyscale, we should go monochrome for speed and old-school style. ;)

Also on the map regular tiles (=one step for the character) should be 8x8. Though NPCs and the character should be higher (~9-10 high or something) and masked.

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Re: OmniRPG - Sprites
« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2013, 04:42:52 am »
Could we use 8*8 for 16*16 meta tiles? I'd like to stick wth 16*16