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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: Happybobjr on November 26, 2010, 03:57:30 pm
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1. ok, all nspire owners with the 84+key pad know about the affects of upgrading your regular nspire os with the 84+ emulation.
2. You probabally also know about the inability to transfer a new os to the 84+ emulation w/o upgrading your nspire os.
3. Ram pages. We are confined to three...
Ok. I am tring to be clear but i got up early for black friday....
2. Is there any way to write an assembly program, either for the nspire or the 84+ emulation, that will enable os upgrades independent to the nspire operating system?
3. Is there anyway to unlock the nspires memory to get extra ram pages for the 84+?
Note: sorry for being unclear.
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1. ok, all nspire owners with the 84+key pad know about the affects of upgrading your regular nspire os with the 84+ emulation.
2. You probabally also know about the inability to transfer a new os to the 84+ emulation w/o upgrading your nspire os.
3. Ram pages. We are confined to three...
Ok. I am tring to be clear but i got up early for black friday....
2. Is there any way to write an assembly program, either for the nspire or the 84+ emulation, that will enable os upgrades independent to the nspire operating system?
3. Is there anyway to unlock the nspires memory to get extra ram pages for the 84+?
Note: sorry for being unclear.
That would be cool, but very hard, since we can't even upload OSs to the NSpire, I think, so a patch? That would be really hard
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Happybob, an interesting idea. Sadly, the only thing I know about that could answer this question is calc84's in-the-works emulator.
Others may know more than me ;D
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maybe just an asm program with the power of ndless.
well. If you can edit the os, then a patch wouldn't be terrible, but i don't think thats where the answer would lie.
@scout: ^
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Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.
I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.
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maybe just an asm program with the power of ndless.
well. If you can edit the os, then a patch wouldn't be terrible, but i don't think thats where the answer would lie.
Theorically, I have no idea of how ndless works, it's like a .c file that installs it, right?
I just have no idea how it theorically works and would like to know.
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Happybob, an interesting idea. Sadly, the only thing I know about that could answer this question is calc84's in-the-works emulator.
Others may know more than me ;D
(Emphasis added) A 3rd-party emulator is probably the easiest (though it still isn't easy) route to go on this, as apcalc said.
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Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.
I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.
That is a great thought.
but would all the asm commands possible with the nspire be enough for the 84+ though?
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Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.
I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.
Yeah Yeah! We could make a program for 84+ keypad that changed definitions of the calculator itself, including other keypads. AWESOME idea!
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
Yeah, but why 83+ instead of 84+?
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He probably means a more generic 83+ Series emulator. Or, even if he only creates an 83+ one, it won't be too difficult to expand it to one for the full series.
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Well, instead of trying to improve the 84+ emulation already on the Nspire, I think it would be easier to simply write a new 84+ emulator that can be run with Ndless to use any rom image.
I don't know if it would be impossible to do, but I would think it would be difficult to change TI's built in emulator.
Yeah Yeah! We could make a program for 84+ keypad that changed definitions of the calculator itself, including other keypads. AWESOME idea!
What? This program would technically be for the Nspire, but it could be run with the 84+ keypad. It would be very hard to program this directly to the 84+ keypad.
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
/me wants calc84 to make an 89 emulator before an 83+ one. :(
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Yeah, no point in starting with 84+, which has quite a bit more hardware to emulate.
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
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Yeah, no point in starting with 84+, which has quite a bit more hardware to emulate.
Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
I want to help you with this project, I have some ideas. Interested in my help?
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
It was already a project before I lost it in my hard drive failure. I'm starting it again.
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It was already a project before I lost it in my hard drive failure. I'm starting it again.
Ohh, you still remember +- the code?
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
It was already a project before I lost it in my hard drive failure. I'm starting it again.
what programing language?
c, asm, ti-basic?
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I think the old one was in ARM ASM, but he might use a combination of both ASM and C in this version.
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what programing language?
c, asm, ti-basic?
I'd recommend Asm :D
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
YES!/me gives calc84 one (1) "You Just Won The Game" Certificate. :D
what programing language?
c, asm, ti-basic?
I'd recommend Asm :D
He was doing it in ARM ASM
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A TI-83+ emulator in Nspire BASIC... :P
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A TI-83+ emulator in Nspire BASIC... :P
FAIL
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A TI-83+ emulator in Nspire BASIC... :P
FAIL
83+ family basic is what i meant
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"83+ family basic is what i meant"
wow... hard, assembly would be "easy"
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I made one in 84 BASIC!
:ClrHome
:Disp "Please press Clear to run OS
:"WARNING: It sux.
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A TI-83+ emulator in Nspire BASIC... :P
FAIL
83+ family basic is what i meant
A TI-83+ emulator for the TI-83+? D:
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I think the old one was in ARM ASM, but he might use a combination of both ASM and C in this version.
eta for a demo? :)
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I made one in 84 BASIC!
:ClrHome
:Disp "Please press Clear to run OS
:"WARNING: It sux.
:ClrHome
:Menu("Choose Calculator:","TI-83",1,"TI-83+",1,"TI-83 S.E.",1,"TI-84+",1,"TI-84 S.E.",1
:Lbl 1
:Disp "This is so fake..."
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ok guys, this isn't randomness section, back on track.
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nah, what I meant was since you run it on an 83/84, when you press clear, the OS is already preinstalled! :D :P
EDIT: woops, sorry :P
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ok guys, this isn't randomness section, back on track.
Affirmative, a combination of two languages could be too hard. I recommend using Assembly in the TI-84+ keypad to edit calculator hardware (which might cause trouble) in order to unlock the Nspire.
EDIT: if we could do so, then we would cheer TI-84+ Keypad and stop saying bad things about it ;P
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actually, you don't need to unlock the calc if the calc has no OS, which is how I believe calc84 coded his gbc4nspire before Ndless came out. ;)
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actually, you don't need to unlock the calc if the calc has no OS, which is how I believe calc84 coded his gbc4nspire before Ndless came out. ;)
What you suggest is to delete the OS and make a new one from scratch?
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Priorities reconsidered. Starting on 83+ emulator now.
wait, you already started that as a project?, you are starting now?, or you are stating what should be done first?
It was already a project before I lost it in my hard drive failure. I'm starting it again.
Specifically this:
http://ourl.ca/4502
http://ourl.ca/4504
(Note, despite the fact the video and news were posted on April 1st, this was real. It was only posted on April 1st so people think it's fake, like the DMCA notice about Omnimaga banner :P)
I still have a copy somewhere but I cannot distribute it since it's not practical in its state.
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no, then you would have to factor the signing keys D:
he used Goplat's Emu and ran the ARM ASM program without an OS, Its kinda like running stuff without shells, and the OS acting as a "Shell".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpOlDUFUTUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpOlDUFUTUI)
Great!
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Indeed. I wish he didn't lose the entire source D: