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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: NeoCrisis on November 27, 2010, 10:52:28 am
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Hi guys!
as you know, my calc disppeared 2-3 weeks ago. I'm losing hope to get it back, so I've been looking on 2nd hand material websites (sorry, French ones :-\), and there are two models that are cheap.
Firsteval there is this TI-84+SE (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/141474768.htm?ca=17_s) which costs 40€ (53$)
SEcondly there is this Casoi Graph85SD (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/155585485.htm?ca=17_s) which also costs 40€ (53$)
I'm embarrassed because I don't know which is the best one, and as I saw in a few source codes in my maths book, Casio Basic is easy to learn....
Of course, as ScoutDavid told me, this is very cheap, but the problem is the choice between one of these calcs :-\
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/me
would go for the 84SE. Bigger community, more prgms, more fun ;D
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yes, but I've seen that the Casio had more memory than the TI :/ but as ScoutDavid said, the TI looks very good ^-^
/me knows some secret smilies
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Firsteval there is this TI-84+SE (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/141474768.htm?ca=17_s) which costs 40€ (53$)
SEcondly there is this Casoi Graph85SD (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/155585485.htm?ca=17_s) which also costs 40€ (53$)
I'm embarrassed because I don't know which is the best one, and as I saw in a few source codes in my maths book, Casio Basic is easy to learn....
Of course, as ScoutDavid told me, this is very cheap, but the problem is the choice between one of these calcs :-\
Well, the answer here is usual: "it depends". Do you really think they will be selling for the same price if one is clearly superior?
First of all: noone will even be able to say which calculator has more memory!
With flash it's no contest: TI-84+SE has only 2MB of flash, but 9860G SD (I'll use international name) compensates it's 1.5MB with SD slot! You can add gigabyte or two for cheap!
With RAM... it's coin toss. If it's used TI-84+SE then there are probably 128K of RAM (more then 64K in 9860G SD), but if it's new then it only has 48K (see here (http://ourl.ca/3726)).
Screen: it's 128x64 for 9860G SD vs 96x64 for TI-84+SE.
CPU: 29MHz SH3 in 9860G SD vs 15MHz z80 in TI-84+SE.
Programming: C (but probably not C++) with GCC for 9860G SD vs Asm (plus other homebrew languages like Axe parser) for TI-84+SE.
Community: this is huge selling point for TI-84+SE: Casio is less popular BY FAR.
So in the end it's up to you to decide - noone can answer the question "which one is the best" because both have pluses and minuses.
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Since you're already in a Texas Calculators Programming community, go for the Texas one, and if it is for school, even more Texas :)
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Firsteval there is this TI-84+SE (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/141474768.htm?ca=17_s) which costs 40€ (53$)
SEcondly there is this Casoi Graph85SD (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/155585485.htm?ca=17_s) which also costs 40€ (53$)
I'm embarrassed because I don't know which is the best one, and as I saw in a few source codes in my maths book, Casio Basic is easy to learn....
Of course, as ScoutDavid told me, this is very cheap, but the problem is the choice between one of these calcs :-\
Well, the answer here is usual: "it depends". Do you really think they will be selling for the same price if one is clearly superior?
First of all: noone will even be able to say which calculator has more memory!
With flash it's no contest: TI-84+SE has only 2MB of flash, but 9860G SD (I'll use international name) compensates it's 1.5MB with SD slot! You can add gigabyte or two for cheap!
With RAM... it's coin toss. If it's used TI-84+SE then there are probably 128K of RAM (more then 64K in 9860G SD), but if it's new then it only has 48K (see here (http://ourl.ca/3726)).
Screen: it's 128x64 for 9860G SD vs 96x64 for TI-84+SE.
CPU: 29MHz SH3 in 9860G SD vs 15MHz z80 in TI-84+SE.
Programming: C (but probably not C++) with GCC for 9860G SD vs Asm (plus other homebrew languages like Axe parser) for TI-84+SE.
Community: this is huge selling point for TI-84+SE: Casio is less popular BY FAR.
So in the end it's up to you to decide - noone can answer the question "which one is the best" because both have pluses and minuses.
ok, but on this website, some people
1. don't know how much it costs IRL
2. are unconscious
si I still hesistate. I plan to study engineering (electronics) in the future, which one is the best (for this)??
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Since you're already in a Texas Calculators Programming community, go for the Texas one, and if it is for school, even more Texas :)
there are more people using Casios than TIs in my school =p but I prefer TI because it's easy to program ^-^ O0
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I would take the TI-84, but if it was a nspire vs prizm then I would say the Prizm
EDIT: Hey, no double posting ;)
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Hum.. That was a quick double post, use the Edit button instead :)
Since you're already in a Texas Calculators Programming community, go for the Texas one, and if it is for school, even more Texas :)
there are more people using Casios than TIs =p but I prefer TI because it's easy to program ^-^ O0
That's relative, I'm in a 28 person class, 26 out of 28 have calculators, 26 out of 26 have Texas and in my school, there are probably 10 Casio students and i'm in the best public school of Portugal (the school with higher grade average of the country AND is public).
Why? I don't know, teachers use Texas and recommend Texas.
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my teacher has a HP calc, which he never uses =p
Even worse, I'm the only person in my class to be able to program on calcs, everyvody using a TI-89 don't even know how to use it :o
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my teacher has a HP calc, which he never uses =p
Even worse, I'm the only person in my class to be able to program on calcs, everyvody using a TI-89 don't even know how to use it :o
Whoat? HP Calculator? didn't even know about them.
I'm also the only one who programs, however, I have a friend of mine who wants me to teach him. but I go 'NOOO!', because he's rude...
Also, I'm the only one who can make Calc-Calc Connect, and I'm paid to do so in tests eves :D
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my teacher has a HP calc, which he never uses =p
Even worse, I'm the only person in my class to be able to program on calcs, everyvody using a TI-89 don't even know how to use it :o
LOL. It's still up to you: if we are discussing calculators itself, then Casio is slightly better, but then there are more programs for TI-84+SE. Think CAS. 9860G sure looks nice (http://cas.jeuxcasio.com/en/presentation.html), but there are more CAS-related programs here (http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/asm/math/) - even if they are not as nice.
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my teacher has a HP calc, which he never uses =p
Even worse, I'm the only person in my class to be able to program on calcs, everyvody using a TI-89 don't even know how to use it :o
LOL. It's still up to you: if we are discussing calculators itself, then Casio is slightly better, but then there are more programs for TI-84+SE. Think CAS. 9860G sure looks nice (http://cas.jeuxcasio.com/en/presentation.html), but there are more CAS-related programs here (http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/asm/math/) - even if they are not as nice.
Yeah, ticalc has a larger database for Texas than any Casio website has, I think
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Whoat? HP Calculator? didn't even know about them.
They are rarity in schools. More powerful then both CASIO and TI, but their learning curve is really step and manuals are quite hard to understand - but Surveying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying) industry uses pretty much HP and nothing else (well, there are specialized hardware devices too).
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Whoat? HP Calculator? didn't even know about them.
They are rarity in schools. More powerful then both CASIO and TI, but their learning curve is really step and manuals are quite hard to understand - but Surveying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying) industry uses pretty much HP and nothing else (well, there are specialized hardware devices too).
Just to tell you, I have a HP Calculator, it's a pink one that came when I bought my printer hahaah
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IMHO I would go with the 84+ because it's the most widely used calc. With the FX-9850G there are some games being made every now and then but the community is much smaller so you wouldn't get as much support as you would get over here with TI.
Btw if you choose the Casio calc are you still planning to stay around Omnimaga? ???
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IMHO I would go with the 84+ because it's the most widely used calc. With the FX-9850G there are some games being made every now and then but the community is much smaller so you wouldn't get as much support as you would get over here with TI.
Btw if you choose the Casio calc are you still planning to stay around Omnimaga? ???
No >:D I'm just kidding, I'll stay whatever calc I'll have. But yesterday I had a chat with my father, and suprisingly he knows TI-83, TI-85, TI-86, and even TI-71!! :o And when I told him about the 2nd hand TI-84+SE, he said that he would try to do something about it... But weren't colored plastic things to put on the 84+SE given with the calc?? the guy who sell it doesn't talk about them on his announce.....
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IMHO I would go with the 84+ because it's the most widely used calc. With the FX-9850G there are some games being made every now and then but the community is much smaller so you wouldn't get as much support as you would get over here with TI.
Btw if you choose the Casio calc are you still planning to stay around Omnimaga? ???
No >:D I'm just kidding, I'll stay whatever calc I'll have. But yesterday I had a chat with my father, and suprisingly he knows TI-83, TI-85, TI-86, and even TI-71!! :o And when I told him about the 2nd hand TI-84+SE, he said that he would try to do something about it... But weren't colored plastic things to put on the 84+SE given with the calc?? the guy who sell it doesn't talk about them on his announce.....
You don't need them...
My father has a super calculator, very old, but super, it does lots of things! He is a civil engineer, so, he really needs it
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Do you mean colored plastic things as the faceplates? I don't think they come with it. They're not necessary either. Also sometimes the cover is missing as well, but if you protect your calc well you should be fine.
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yeah, the faceplates. I've seen an announce with someone selling a new calc (still in the original package) and the faceplates came with it........
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IMHO I would go with the 84+ because it's the most widely used calc. With the FX-9850G there are some games being made every now and then but the community is much smaller so you wouldn't get as much support as you would get over here with TI.
From what I've seen, most of those games have to be manually input into your calc too :P
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Woops I meant 9860G, not 9850G. With the 9850G you can link your calc, but good luck getting it detected. I never managed to succeed. With the 9860G it's easier.
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Okay, but I think I'll take the TI one... do someone know how to convert peanuts into euros (not dollars :p) ?? ???
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Okay, but I think I'll take the TI one... do someone know how to convert peanuts into euros (not dollars :p) ?? ???
Sell them... But it's value is uncountable, it's not worth money, it's like love, it can't be sold!
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well....they're just...peanuts..
or maybe I could try to get an elephant like that, and then sell the elephant...
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well....they're just...peanuts..
or maybe I could try to get an elephant like that, and then sell the elephant...
I recommend getting it as Christmas present, you can wait 22 days for it, can't you?
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yes, but my parents (have or are, I never remember)divorced, and as I don't see my father a lot (very complicated story) he didn't give me any birthday present for 2 years. same for xmas --'
but that's another story :p
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yes, but my parents (have or are, I never remember)divorced, and as I don't see my father a lot (very complicated story) he didn't give me any birthday present for 2 years. same for xmas --'
but that's another story :p
I'm sorry for you, really sorry.
Both are and have divorced work, since divorced is a verb but also a noun :P
If he didn't give you presents, you deserve:
1. Prizm
2. 84+S.E.
3. 89 Titanium
4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
EDIT: 1000th post?
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4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
The nspire IS worth a lot (compared to the 83+ series). It's TI-OS that's not worth much.
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4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
The nspire IS worth a lot (compared to the 83+ series). It's TI-OS that's not worth much.
Two Ndless-Ready NSpires, then!
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Woops I meant 9860G, not 9850G. With the 9850G you can link your calc, but good luck getting it detected. I never managed to succeed. With the 9860G it's easier.
Tiny correction: most Casio calcs are PITA to link with the PC, but we are talking 9860G SD here. The last two letters make it very different affair...
P.S. I really hate that all calculator-producing firms like to confuse everyone with suffixes. Think TI-83 vs TI-83+SE and TI-84+SE. TI-83 is quite different from TI-83 Plus (no flash and so no apps) but TI-83+SE and TI-84+SE are almost identical (the faceplate is cool but mostly useless addition, USB is also not very useful unless you own a PS3). The same with HP: compare HP-48G, HP-48gII, HP-49G, HP-49G+ and HP-50. HP-48G and HP-49G are very close to each other and the same is true for HP-48gII, HP-49G+ and HP-50, but HP-48G and HP-48gII are quite different and HP-49G and HP49-G+ are totally different too!
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True, it took me a while to figure out fa-124, and that with the help of the tutorials on casiokingdom :P
Then again, TI-connect is really hard to use as well (not to mention unreliable) but there's TiLP...
Personally, I'd go with the 84PSE for long term, unless...
Does the 84 have the extra RAM pages? With the extra RAM pages you can do a lot more.
If not, it might be better to go with the Casio, they seem a lot less common...
There are probably 84 silvers all over ebay, for even cheaper than $53 anyway :P
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There are probably 84 silvers all over ebay, for even cheaper than $53 anyway :P
There are lots of them, but they are expensive even on eBay. If you are lucky you can buy one for less then $53: I've bough TI-89 (non-titanium) new in a box for less, but "buy it now" offers starts at $60-$65...
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Tr1p1ea got a 84+ for $20 a few years ago, but the LCD was broken. The only calcs I can get from Canada under $40 shipping included (most sellers won't ship outside USA because they think USA is the only existing part of the world :P) are TI-81s, TI-82s, TI-85s and Casio FX-7000G
Woops I meant 9860G, not 9850G. With the 9850G you can link your calc, but good luck getting it detected. I never managed to succeed. With the 9860G it's easier.
Tiny correction: most Casio calcs are PITA to link with the PC, but we are talking 9860G SD here. The last two letters make it very different affair...
P.S. I really hate that all calculator-producing firms like to confuse everyone with suffixes. Think TI-83 vs TI-83+SE and TI-84+SE. TI-83 is quite different from TI-83 Plus (no flash and so no apps) but TI-83+SE and TI-84+SE are almost identical (the faceplate is cool but mostly useless addition, USB is also not very useful unless you own a PS3). The same with HP: compare HP-48G, HP-48gII, HP-49G, HP-49G+ and HP-50. HP-48G and HP-49G are very close to each other and the same is true for HP-48gII, HP-49G+ and HP-50, but HP-48G and HP-48gII are quite different and HP-49G and HP49-G+ are totally different too!
Ogh right I didn't spot the SD part. However, I got no problems linking my 9860G. I just installed FA-124, then connected the calc via USB and it immediately worked perfectly, even more than TI-Connect with TI calcs. It's with older calc models that I got troubles. With a SD calc it must be much easier.
4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
The nspire IS worth a lot (compared to the 83+ series). It's TI-OS that's not worth much.
The TI-83+ hardware is worth about $0.10 I am pretty sure.
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Tr1p1ea got a 84+ for $20 a few years ago, but the LCD was broken. The only calcs I can get from Canada under $40 shipping included (most sellers won't ship outside USA because they think USA is the only existing part of the world :P) are TI-81s, TI-82s, TI-85s and Casio FX-7000G
It's the same story everywhere: people don't like to ship abroad. Makes small amount of sense for USA: it's large country and there are lots of domestic sellers and buyers. Makes less sense for UK - but at least it's an island. But when someone from France don't like to ship to Shitzerland... it's just ridiculous. But here we've talked about France - and there are lots of sellers (http://shop.ebay.fr/i.html?_nkw=ti-84&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A1229&rt=nc&_dmpt=FR_JG_Informatique_Bureautique_Calc&_fcid=71&_jgr=1&_localstpos=&_sacat_sel=See-All-Categories&_stpos=&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&gbr=1&_sop=15&_sc=1). Most will not ship outside of France :)
The TI-83+ hardware is worth about $0.10 I am pretty sure.
That's what indians thought when they invented their crazy plans (http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2007/05/india-announces-plans-for-10-laptop.ars). But no, real world does not work this way (http://gizmodo.com/5145998/indias-10-laptop-basically-a-big-dumb-joke). Electronic components will cost you almost nothing, that's true, but you still need LCD (about 2 square inches to at least $1.5-$2), plastic parts (about $2-$3 minimum), some soldering work, some connectors... I doubt it's below $5, more likely $10... and that's because of orders measured in millions! If you'll try to order the same parts by hundreds you'll get 10x the price (and don't even think to build one single calculator - it'll cost more then $1000 easily).
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4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
The nspire IS worth a lot (compared to the 83+ series). It's TI-OS that's not worth much.
The TI-83+ hardware is worth about $0.10 I am pretty sure.
That's a lot compared to TI-OS ;)
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4. 2 Nspires (since the nspire doesn't really worth a lot)
The nspire IS worth a lot (compared to the 83+ series). It's TI-OS that's not worth much.
The TI-83+ hardware is worth about $0.10 I am pretty sure.
That's a lot compared to TI-OS ;)
So, we can assume Texas makes a lot of profit :)
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Yeah $0.10 was a bit of an exageration, though. It was in reference to how you can get a 1.7 GHz computer for cheaper than a TI-83+ over here now. Granted, it is used, but there's a huge difference between 1.7 GHz and 6 Mhz. It was also in reference to how greedy Texas Instrument is and the monopoly they have and the fact they could put better hardware in their calcs for not much higher in money. XKCD comic #768 is so right about that: http://xkcd.com/768/
If Casio Prizm ever becomes popular and that Casio FX-9860GII sales pick up, I am sure TI may need to reduce their prices and they would still make profits.
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geez I found this on the INternet
http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/156407550.htm?ca=19_s
only 70€ for a TI-Nspire!!!!!!!! :o
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Granted, it is used, but there's a huge difference between 1.7 GHz and 6 Mhz.
Quite a difference I'd say: 6MHz calculator will work for weeks on four AAA batteries, 1.7 GHz computer will not work at all. Even 90MHz TI-Nspire is battery hog.
It was also in reference to how greedy Texas Instrument is and the monopoly they have and the fact they could put better hardware in their calcs for not much higher in money.
Well, they did - but as compensation they crippled OS.
If Casio Prizm ever becomes popular and that Casio FX-9860GII sales pick up, I am sure TI may need to reduce their prices and they would still make profits.
Doubt it. They have a virtual monopoly. If schools have textbooks which can onl be used with TI calcs then what choice do you have?
HP calcs were always better then TI (but were and are quite hard to master), Casio's offers are slightly better - but it does not really matter because TI sells teacher packs and so you can getting you fix in any case.
And TI-Nspire all said and done is nice and powerful calculator. If you don't want to run tetris on it, that is.
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Well I personally found the Nspire to be pretty hard to use. I don't find the OS to be very user-friendly. On the 83+ it was so much easier to access stuff.
I also didn't realize school books were written purposely to be used with TI calcs. ???
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Well I personally found the Nspire to be pretty hard to use. I don't find the OS to be very user-friendly. On the 83+ it was so much easier to access stuff.
I also didn't realize school books were written purposely to be used with TI calcs. ???
my maths book is made to be used with TI calcs... they have a very small chapter on how to use Casios, but it is just how to turn it on/off xD ::) ._.
OFFTOPIC: are there new smilies?? /OFFTOPIC
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i wonder if this TI-ops opinion will change when Casio Prizm comes out officialliy...
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Well I personally found the Nspire to be pretty hard to use. I don't find the OS to be very user-friendly. On the 83+ it was so much easier to access stuff.
I also didn't realize school books were written purposely to be used with TI calcs. ???
my maths book is made to be used with TI calcs... they have a very small chapter on how to use Casios, but it is just how to turn it on/off xD ::) ._.
OFFTOPIC: are there new smilies?? /OFFTOPIC
I see. I guess the books we had over here didn't really take in account calculators, although i remember one screenshot of a 82 once. Teachers still recommended us a 82/83 family calc, though, or 80 for lower level maths. I guess Casios could have done but they sometimes explained how to graph stuff in front of the class with the TI-Viewscreen projector thing.
And yeah there are some new smilies.
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I also didn't realize school books were written purposely to be used with TI calcs. ???
Yep, I had one that was written for TI calculators with screenshots and activities.
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I guess they're sponsored by TI themselves so they keep their monopoly... X.x
By the way, any luck getting a new calc Rayquaz59?
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well, I spoke to my father 1 hour ago, and we were talking about the TI-Nspire.
I've asked my maths teacher, and because he knows I like programming, he said Nspire would be perfect, he said that the Nspire CAS was better (he even gave me the sheet for the teachers kit in france, it's as expensive as a 2nd hand calc, but it's 10€ more expensive for the TI-Nspire)
everything i write may look not clear, but I mean that the TI-Nspires I found on Internet are cheaper than the Nspires my teacher can get
and yesterday somebody was selling (on leboncoin.fr ) a TI-Nspire CAS for 70€ (http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/157488201.htm) which wasn't used (a new one).
And as my maths exam is in two weeks, it is more likely to be an anticipated Christmas gift :angel: O0
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Wait, so he suggested you a Nspire because you like programming? Is he just trying to prevent you to code or something, knowing the Nspire BASIC language is limited and that it's hard to jailbreak it in some cases?
Maybe you should at least try to get a regular nspire, even if he suggests the CAS, and make sure to get a 84 keypad as well.
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do you mean no TI-84 keypad is included ??? ??? !!!! :o O.O :crazy:
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I've asked my maths teacher, and because he knows I like programming, he said Nspire would be perfect, he said that the Nspire CAS was better...
O.O
The Nspire is widely known as the worst platform for programming in the community. Plus, the 89 Titanium has a CAS as well...
But, they're both usable with if you exploit the Nspire with Ndless.
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OK, but what is Ndless made for??
and, as I saw on Internet, 2nd hand 89 Titaniums are more expensive than Nspires....
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Ndless is for running Assembly programs. But Assembly programs can't access the CAS without some effort.
I didn't know about the price, though.
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Ndless is for running Assembly programs. But Assembly programs can't access the CAS without some effort.
I didn't know about the price, though.
I didn't know too =p but when I saw some for 120-150€ (only 2nd hands, no packaging :S ) and TI-Nspire in their original package for 70€, I was astonished :o
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do you mean no TI-84 keypad is included ??? ??? !!!! :o O.O :crazy:
It depends how old is the package. If it's from 2009 or something, it should be included. Otherwise, it isn't anymore.
As for Ndless it is used to open your TI-Nspire to ASM/C programs, which are normally impossible on this calc. It's called jailbreaking, kinda like iPhones, PSP and PS3 hacking.
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ok.... but does jailbreaking, as it does on Iphones and PS3s, destroy the warranty?
the guy told me it's the most recent model... which I saw in carrefour my supermarket yesterday.... at 205€ :S
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It depends. If jailbreaking the calc damages its software (less likely to happen), it would, if you cannot revert the changes, but otherwise, you can reformat the calc and reinstall the OS and they won't notice.
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so if it crashes, it only crashes the software part? not the hardware?
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The software, but normally, unless a software messes with your archive memory and writes stuff to the wrong areas, it should be fine, and even in the case where it would write to the wrong areas, if it touches the OS, you can simply wipe the OS and reinstall a new copy. The real bad part is if it deletes/alters the boot code page or its equivalent. On the 83+, it was the OS certificate.
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are the TI-84 keypads included with the most recent models of TI-Nspire CAS? On the photos I can't see any space for it, but I saw it is present on one of the models.....
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About the price though: Here in the US, the Nspire is still more expensive than the 84+.
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No, the CAS has no 84+ emulation. On the Clickpad the keypad isn't detachable. On the Touchpad it can be inserted but it won't connect very well and it won't work in 84+ mode since the CAS OS lacks 84+ emulation.
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so I need to get the TI-Nspire which is the simple one, not the CAS.. ?
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About the price though: Here in the US, the Nspire is still more expensive than the 84+.
Actually, they are about the same: Ti-nspire is $126.98 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-Ti-nspire-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B003FVGERY) while TI-84+SE is $129.47 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-84-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B0001EMM0Q). This is funny since objectively speaking Ti-nspire is more capable... but more cumbersome, too.
I guess the task #1 for TI now is to make sure next generation of school books will feature TI-Nspire prominently - then it can raise the price again (look on "list price" on the same Amazon pages... you'll be suprised).
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My guess is that the Nspire prices are lower because they don't sell well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was worth to mouth stuff going on between students who see higher grade students playing games on their 83+ but almost no one playing any on their Nspire or hearing that the Nspire is much harder to use, then the next year they decided to go for the 83+ instead.
Over here for a while, a 84+SE costed more than a TI-Nspire, even if with the Nspire you had a 84+SE keypad for free.so I need to get the TI-Nspire which is the simple one, not the CAS.. ?
If you want 84+ emulation, get the regular one.
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About the price though: Here in the US, the Nspire is still more expensive than the 84+.
Actually, they are about the same: Ti-nspire is $126.98 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-Ti-nspire-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B003FVGERY) while TI-84+SE is $129.47 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-84-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B0001EMM0Q). This is funny since objectively speaking Ti-nspire is more capable... but more cumbersome, too.
When I saw the price, the 84+ was $125 and the Nspire was $136.
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I wonder how does a 84+SE costs where you live? Over here right now the 84+SE is $177 and the Nspire $185 but the Nspire used to be $160 and I saw 84+SE calcs for $168 a few times.
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the TI-84+ costs 122€ in "supermarket A" and 109€ in "supermarket B"....
But.... too late --' my father send the cheque for the TI-Nspire CAS. I'll just have to learn the C language..... and the ARM ASM :/
[edit]the seller bought it for school in September, but his school wants him to buy a Casio.... does this mean a TI-84 keypad is present??? [/edit]
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I wonder how does a 84+SE costs where you live? Over here right now the 84+SE is $177 and the Nspire $185 but the Nspire used to be $160 and I saw 84+SE calcs for $168 a few times.
About $135 -$140.
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I see, so barely any difference with the Nspire, then. Kinda like where I live one-two years ago.
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the TI-84+ costs 122€ in "supermarket A" and 109€ in "supermarket B"....
But.... too late --' my father send the cheque for the TI-Nspire CAS. I'll just have to learn the C language..... and the ARM ASM :/
[edit]the seller bought it for school in September, but his school wants him to buy a Casio.... does this mean a TI-84 keypad is present??? [/edit]
I don't recall the CAS models shipping with 84+ keypads. I believe it was just the original clickpad Nspires that shipped with the 84+ keypads. I'm not 100% sure though...
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Yep, CAS has no (built-in) 84+, but calc84 is working on an 83+ emu, as well as an 89 emu.
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I thought both of those emulators were unreleased and currently on hold though? :/
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Yeah they're on hold and unreleased. I wonder if he'll resume them...
The CAS had no 84+ emulation.
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That's what I thought, ah well. :/