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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: TexasInstruments84 on November 17, 2012, 03:32:07 pm

Title: Black Friday
Post by: TexasInstruments84 on November 17, 2012, 03:32:07 pm
Does the TI-89 Titanium's price lower during black friday? If so, I'll run to my Office Max and get one :D
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Lionel Debroux on November 17, 2012, 03:38:43 pm
TI badly wants to see the TI-68k series die, so I wouldn't hold my breath about the possibility of its prices lowering ;)
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: _Nicco_ on November 17, 2012, 03:48:02 pm
Really?  Why would they want to get rid of the Titanium?  I know quite a few people that have them.  They don't program them though, they just use them for math.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Streetwalrus on November 17, 2012, 04:10:36 pm
Because if you don't program it and only use it for math you should get the cheaper and better nSpire CX CAS. That's TI's philosophy. They should scrap most of the z80 series, keeping the 84 C as a cheap model, make the 89 a cheap CAS calc and scrap the non-CAS nSpire. But they won't.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: _Nicco_ on November 17, 2012, 04:12:44 pm
Woah woah woah. Did you say that the Nspire CX CAS is now cheaper than the TI-89 Titanium?  When I bought it it was about 20 Dollars more.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 17, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
Does the TI-89 Titanium's price lower during black friday? If so, I'll run to my Office Max and get one :D
No. This is only on specific items that are "high demand".
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Juju on November 17, 2012, 09:26:10 pm
When it is, by the way?
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Darl181 on November 17, 2012, 09:33:33 pm
Black Friday is the day after thanksgiving (which is always on a Thursday fsr).

And as for Ti scrapping the z80s as cheap..that would be pretty dumb of them because that's a large part of what they're selling :P
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on November 17, 2012, 10:19:26 pm
Sadly they are trying to make it start on Thursday
Some stores are opening at 9:00 (or 21:00), a lot are opening at midnight, and most are giving hourly specials to make this shopping spree more miserable than any other day.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 17, 2012, 11:17:02 pm
In Canada, Black Friday occurs the day after Christmas and it's called Boxing Day. Last year some stores tried to do a Black Friday sale, though, but it was nowhere close to what we see in USA or Boxing Day. However, the most notable difference is that over here, due to Canadian store opening hours laws, stores are forced to remain closed from Dec 24th 5 PM to Dec 26th 1 PM, so if boxing day occurs on a Saturday or Sunday, you only have 4 hours for shopping.

Also until last year, there was no bus transit on boxing day in my City, which sucked, because I was stuck shopping at the local mall or in nearby stores, and most sales there sucked. Last year I finally got able to go to Quebec City malls for more interesting stuff, but the buses were so crowded that I had to stand up during the entire ride and at one point they stopped letting anymore people in).

We also have two Zellers stores that are closing on December 17th, and a lot of stuff is 40%-70% off the lowest price. During the final week it will hit 70-90% (and 40% on food/underwears/socks/TVs), but so far in my city about 30% of the store is already empty because people bought all the interesting stuff at 30-50% off >.< . A lot of the stuff in the electronic section that is left is either overpriced or in terrible condition. They had a $69.99 TI-83+ once, though. Last month I got two Asterix comic books for $0.60 and $0.75, which are normally $16.95 at bookstores.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: _Nicco_ on November 18, 2012, 02:33:50 am
I kinda don't like how stores are opening earlier and earlier.  This year, I heard that Best Buy is going to open at midnight.  I think that the only store around me to do that before was Walmart.  How are you supposed to enjoy Thanksgiving then right after dinner line up to get a deal on some new stuff.  The crazy thing is though that there are only a few great deals and most of the other stuff you can just find on sale some other time.  It's just a marketing gimmick.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 18, 2012, 02:39:51 am
Yeah it seems like they try to start it a day before and it opens earlier and earlier. If they continue like that, Black Friday will kinda lose its "special event" touch. Plus there's the fact that people can't spend time with their family anymore because they have to start working at night or go shopping before stores no longer have what they want in stock...

That kinda makes me glad over here stores open later. They close on Dec 24th at 5 PM, so we have time to go to our family right after finishing working, then after Christmas day, we can wake up late and eat dinner before waiting in line in front of stores. I wish that stores opened at 10 AM when Boxing Day occurs on weekend, though, because 4 hours isn't enough to shop when you spend 30 minutes waiting outside most stores before the security guards let you in, let alone moving around crowded malls and waiting in line at the checkout. It took me one hour just to buy a $199.99 PS3 at Future Shop last year >.<

Also we have to be careful at Boxing Day, because some clothing stores mark items up during Christmas rushes, and when they don't, they sometimes offer even greater deals once Boxing Day is over. Usually for clothing stores the best deals are found at the sidewalk sales that occur 2 weeks after New Year.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Streetwalrus on November 18, 2012, 12:43:35 pm
Woah woah woah. Did you say that the Nspire CX CAS is now cheaper than the TI-89 Titanium?  When I bought it it was about 20 Dollars more.
Yes it is. In France, the 89t is about 170-190€ and the CX CAS is 150€. And the V200 is even more expensive.

And as for Ti scrapping the z80s as cheap..that would be pretty dumb of them because that's a large part of what they're selling :P
Well, there are a couple models that don't make any sense. Why do they keep the 82 Stats (actually an 83), the 73 and the 76 ? Even the 83+ is crap compared to the 84+. I only use half of my 500k flash, and I can't fit that on my friends' 83+. That sucks.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 22, 2012, 04:48:22 pm
Ok, so here is what I saw today:

-A photography/camera store will participate to Black Friday and the sale lasts from today to Monday.
-An electronic store I forgot the name of seemed to have a big sale too. Some $1399 TVs for $899 or so IIRC. I forgot exactly, though. It was just kinda big, although not on a lot of items
-Sears exceptionally opens at 8 AM tomorrow instead of 9 AM, and it appears they're gonna run some interesting sale.

Last year, only Jack and Jones had much of a sale over here where I live in Canada. Seems like there are more sales this year and I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years it got as big as in USA minus the weird store business hours. I haven't checked HMV and a few other stores, though. Most seemed to have regular weekly sales from the flyer. Bikes and many other items at Zellers are now 50% off or more starting today, but that might not count since they're going out of business. I just bought a $279.99 bike for $125 O.O
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Eeems on November 22, 2012, 04:53:22 pm
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but the buses were so crowded that I had to stand up during the entire ride and at one point they stopped letting anymore people in
It doesn't even have to be a holiday for that to happen here :/ on an accordion bus too sometimes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_bus
Title: Re: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 22, 2012, 05:47:18 pm
Here buses are often empty except the L2 line on week days. Dec 26 uses the weekend bus schedule tho so it was even worse. Back then we had no articulated bus too.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: flyingfisch on November 22, 2012, 06:09:01 pm
I kinda don't like how stores are opening earlier and earlier.  This year, I heard that Best Buy is going to open at midnight.  I think that the only store around me to do that before was Walmart.  How are you supposed to enjoy Thanksgiving then right after dinner line up to get a deal on some new stuff.  The crazy thing is though that there are only a few great deals and most of the other stuff you can just find on sale some other time.  It's just a marketing gimmick.

The way it works is that they have some really good sales, but they are all bought up right away. So everyone goes in expecting to get something super cheap, but most people will only get a normal sale. But the big thing is that the people will be in the store and most of them won't leave with they're hands empty just because there are no more sales left.

BTW, near where I live, people have been literally camping out in front of best buy since sat., and they will have thanksgiving dinner in they're tents. Yuck.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 22, 2012, 10:15:43 pm
Are other stores allowed to buy batches of cheap stuff in another store if there's no limit per customer? If so, then that means that if you don't go early, another store might have bought almost or every item that are really discounted to re-sell them at higher price later.

Plus over here, on Boxing Day (or our stripped down Black Friday tomorrow), most stores only got like 2-3 items that are really marked down a lot (such as a big TV or good laptop being $500 off or so), that they sell without making any profit, and those customers often buy other stuff that is less discounted. It's a tactic to lure customers in to buy more than just the main item on sale.

As for boxing day I don't think I ever saw anyone camping outside or sleeping, but again on December 26th it's either -10°F at night or snowstorming, so that would be dangerous. Often people wait in line outside starting at 8 or 9 AM, though, in larger cities. In smaller cities like mine (139000 people), you usually see people arrive in car around an hour before the doors open, and they wait in their car until there appears to be a huge mob of people waiting. If you plan to visit multiple stores, expect to take 4 times more time for shopping than normal. In my case last year I went in 4 stores and it took me over 3 hours, while normally it would have taken me 1 at those places. It's just crazy and some customers will try to slowly push you to pass >.<
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on November 22, 2012, 10:25:10 pm
Well, where I live, the day after Christmas is around 40-60 degrees Fahrenheit.
I think the only reason why they camp out is because stores say that eh first 10 customers will get a free ipad or other expensive device.
Stores also give away a lot of other free things or really good deals, like $100 gift cards or cheap tv’s.
Sadly, this has lead to a few shootings when tensions rise, and the accidental trampling of a Wal-Mart employee.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: flyingfisch on November 23, 2012, 08:19:57 am
Are other stores allowed to buy batches of cheap stuff in another store if there's no limit per customer? If so, then that means that if you don't go early, another store might have bought almost or every item that are really discounted to re-sell them at higher price later.
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Yup.

Well, where I live, the day after Christmas is around 40-60 degrees Fahrenheit.
I think the only reason why they camp out is because stores say that eh first 10 customers will get a free ipad or other expensive device.
Stores also give away a lot of other free things or really good deals, like $100 gift cards or cheap tv’s.
Sadly, this has lead to a few shootings when tensions rise, and the accidental trampling of a Wal-Mart employee.


Yeah, it seems like every year one or two people end up getting killed...
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Yeong on November 23, 2012, 09:02:47 am
Thanks to Black Friday, I got my android tablet for $89.99 ;D
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 23, 2012, 09:41:31 am
Well, where I live, the day after Christmas is around 40-60 degrees Fahrenheit.
I think the only reason why they camp out is because stores say that eh first 10 customers will get a free ipad or other expensive device.
Stores also give away a lot of other free things or really good deals, like $100 gift cards or cheap tv’s.
Sadly, this has lead to a few shootings when tensions rise, and the accidental trampling of a Wal-Mart employee.

That sucks >.<. I remember that employee that died when opening the doors a few years ago once. I guess this is why they take no chance here for boxing day and have security guards (I bet they'll do it on Black Friday too if it ever gets as popular as USA).
Thanks to Black Friday, I got my android tablet for $89.99 ;D
Nice, how much was it before and what kind is it?

I'll go check some stores later I think in case I run into some interesting stuff after work (assuming anything interesting won't necessarily all get sold out beforehand).
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Yeong on November 23, 2012, 10:01:13 am
it was $169.99, I think.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: zeldaking on November 23, 2012, 10:35:42 am
Around here most people really enjoy Black Friday shopping. I went over to Best Buy and found people camping in tents and I heard some people being there for two days! So I knew I wasn't getting into Best Buy so I ran over to Target and got the last ticket for the new iPod 5! :D Wasn't as good of deal as Best Buy but oh well. I think it was $280 at target but Best Buy was $295 and came with a $40 gift card. Overall I am really happy.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Yeong on November 23, 2012, 10:39:00 am
Well I was damn lucky and went into BestBuy within 12 minutes upon opening and I was lining up 20 minutes before opening lol XD
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: zeldaking on November 23, 2012, 10:40:45 am
That makes me mad :P I went about 2 hours before opening!! And I knew it was a lost cause so I left.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on November 23, 2012, 11:20:36 am
Wait, do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada?

Also, my mom was able to get some free tickets to The Life of Pi today just for going to the store.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: epic7 on November 23, 2012, 01:18:33 pm
I think Canada does celebrate Thanksgiving, but on the second Monday of October.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Eeems on November 23, 2012, 01:27:15 pm
Yes we do have our own thanksgiving :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_%28Canada%29
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on November 23, 2012, 01:32:55 pm
Okay, so there is actually little reason why they would have a Black Friday, because they don’t celebrate Thanksgiving like we do.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Eeems on November 23, 2012, 01:36:27 pm
Exactly ;) Your thanksgiving is specific to your history and our thanksgiving has little to do with your history.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on November 23, 2012, 01:43:27 pm
Although, is your boxing day bigger than our boxing day? (Well, we don’t call it boxing day, just the day after Christmas)
Stores open at around 8 and have some pretty good sales. Stores like to sell a lot of stuff, so it might actually be the same size as your boxing day.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: Eeems on November 23, 2012, 01:44:54 pm
Our boxing day is on par with your Black Friday.
Title: Re: Black Friday
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 23, 2012, 05:40:40 pm
Okay, so there is actually little reason why they would have a Black Friday, because they don’t celebrate Thanksgiving like we do.

The reason why there's a Black Friday in Canada too now is because Canadians kept going to USA to do their christmas shopping on Black Friday rather than doing it in Canada, which hurt their sales, so they try more and more to lure people on that day. I noticed that every Canadian store that do Black Friday (in my case, about 40% of the local shopping mall) have it last for 3 days.

That said, Canadian Black Friday only exists since 2011, so it's still not that popular yet compared to boxing day. I didn't find anything I needed that interests me for now (most TVs that were on sale nearby are 40-46 inch and I would rather prefer waiting for a good deal on a 55-60 inch or something), but  one gift I planned to give to someone was for sale today. There were more people than usual, but I went at around 4 PM so it wasn't as bad as it would have been at 2 PM, plus most people are working today, unlike in USA.

I think in some cities boxing day might look even worse than USA Black Friday Eeems, especially if it occurs on weekends, because of the very restricted business hours. In USA you got people going shopping at 12 AM to get the best deals possible, and you got plenty of people who want to spend the night with their family and shop the day after thanksgiving, then add the people who prefer waking up late and doing it during afternoon or evening. In Quebec, you only have a 4 hours shopping timeframe (sometimes 8 ), so everyone has to go at once. D: