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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on November 07, 2010, 07:49:41 pm
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73 Explorer: $69
83+: $129
84+: $139
84+SE: $149
89T: $149
Nspire Touchpad: $150
Nspire CAS Touchpad: $160
Voyage 200: $199
1) Wtf at the 83+ price? Didn't it use to be like $90 in USA? When school starts, I can get one for $100 at Staples, sometimes $90, and I live in an overtaxed country AKA Canada.
2) Why is the 89T so cheap? Is there an hidden promotion? Did they stop selling well? Or are they phasing them out?
3) Why is the Nspire series so cheap compared to the rest?
4) The clickpad are GONE!!!
https://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?a=b
Not sure if that link will work, but if not, select your site, go to USA, select graphing calcs, then the calc model, then products. Just to compare, here are the prices over here at Staples:
TI-83+: $127.96 ($89-99 when school starts)
TI-84+: $147.84
TI-84+SE: $179.82
TI-89T: $188.92
TI-Nspire Touchpad: $184.82
TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad: $199.96
The TI-73 and v200 are not sold in Canada everywhere or are very hard to find. Staples doesn't sell them at all. The Clickpad Nspires are gone since this Summer from Staples online store.
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oh noes...
I like how the 73 costs $69 tough. :P
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Oh boy, bad signs...
And wtf? TI's selling the TI-83 Plus for the same price as a Casio Prizm ???
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Oh dear D: TI just seems to be making one bad choice after another...... :(
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The casio prizm is slightly better for that price :D
Which reminds me...
/me stabs the TI peoples with a spoon
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Maybe I can get a 73 and install Mallard on it, and play the... 10 TI-73 assembly games?
Or, Chameleon it and get an 83+ for about half the price.
3) Why is the Nspire series so cheap compared
Unfinished thought?
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Yeah sorry I added more to my post. Read it again. It also includes the current Staples prices in Canada, which are the same since a year or two, but they are never up to date on the market, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed, soon.
On Canada's TI site:
TI-73 Explorer: $76.99 (pretty much the only place to get them in Canada)
TI-83 Plus: $145 (if it wasn't for taxes, I could get one for cheaper at Staples)
TI-84 Plus: Item not available
TI-84 Plus Silver Edition: $165.00
TI-89 Titanium: $164.99
TI-Nspire Touchpad: Item not available
TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad: $175.00
Voyage 200: $219.99
There's definitively something wrong with the TI-83+ price. Is it just because it's very popular?
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TI-84 Plus: Item not available
umm... what happened there?
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Seriously? No 84+BEs?
Is TI getting rid of the good calcs, one by one? D:
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Not sure, they might be out of stock, considering the SE and Nspire CAS are still available.
I'll check the american Staples sites.
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US staples prices still make sense.
http://www.staples.com/Graphing-Calculators-Calculators/cat_CL90003 (http://www.staples.com/Graphing-Calculators-Calculators/cat_CL90003)
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Yeah I just saw now. The canadian site is rather fine, too, even if they're higher. On TI website it's insane how overpriced the 83+ is and how cheap is the 89T compared to the rest.
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well, if everything went to Nspire calcs, as in they are the only ones left, then that would mean that otcalcs would do better, IMAO.
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Whoa, just noticed. 89T == 84+SE? That doesn't sound right. At all.
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More like 89T = 84+SE. When you think about it, they are each powerful in there own respect, but which one sells more? TI would probably consider that the TI-89 is more powerful, so they would make them the same price.
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Umm, the 89 is way more powerful than the 84+ no matter how I see it. Better Screen rez, better processor, more RAM and Flash. I don't see any redeeming qualities for powerful.
TI could sell them both for under $70 though :P such old tech.
And Nspires are still available from the US site.
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My thoughts:
TI's probably thinking that since not that many people know about the upcoming Casio Prizm, they might as well make a huge price jump to get what they can before they need to lower it so much. The Clickpad's probably gone forever. Not sure about the 89T, but it doesn't look good, especially considering the fact that sales have dropped a lot for the 68Ks.
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The TI-89 Titanium has been $149.99 for as long as I can remember. The price of the TI-83+ family seems to have been increased for some reason.
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Maybe the 83+ series is sold more nowadays so they increased prices, and the 89T isn't as popular and they dropped the prices to reduce their supply a bit. I remember a few years ago, the Nspire retailled at $159.99 over here, cheaper than a 84+SE, even with a 84+SE keypad included.
If the higher prices are just because TI sells stuff higher on their site, then it might not be something good for the 73 and 89T.
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Clickpad is still available in the spare parts section, it's been gone as a calc for a while.
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it's really only a matter of time before thats gone too. :'(
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Should we care that much, though? once ndless 2 comes out, I see little reason to be attached to it. Heck, removable keypads means we could make our own! :P
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it's really only a matter of time before thats gone too. :'(
What would that leave? A keyless Nspire? :P
I remember a few years ago, the Nspire retailled at $159.99 over here, cheaper than a 84+SE, even with a 84+SE keypad included.
Wow...
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But it's probably more accurate to what the average user will get out of it, what with OS 2.53 and all :P
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That is odd. My initial theory was people will go "hey look! The Nspire is as cheap as the 84 se, so why not get the nspire?" but then again, TI would want to get rid of their z80 stock now.
Should we care that much, though? once ndless 2 comes out, I see little reason to be attached to it. Heck, removable keypads means we could make our own! :P
Good idea! We could make one for playing games ;)
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Lol maybe OTcalc could become OTpad or something: a 3rd-party keypad for the TI-Nspire. But then, I am sure TI would change the hardware to not support the new keypad anymore. If we're gonna do a 3rd party calc/tool, we might as well create a new calc. :P
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What is could possess them to use those prices?
* FinaleTI's power reaches critical mass and the nexus is unbound. >:D
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That is a crazy price for both the 83+ and the 84+. Both of those should be at least $20 cheaper.
But that's what happens when you control the graphing calculator industry.
Go Casio Prizm! :)
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The reason TI is jacking up the price of the 83's and 84's is because they want their new product, the Nspire, to sell more. By increasing the price of 83's and 84's, they are effectively trying to force people to buy Nspires by making the old and less capable models unreasonably expensive in comparison. By then having more sales of the Nspire, TI hopes to spread its influence and eventually have it replace 83's and 84's. At this point, when Nspires become the new standard for graphing calculators bought by every new high school student, they could even decide to increase the price more and get away with it.
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I hope the Casio Prizm will be popular enough to affect TI sales, so prices go down.
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*checks TI site in hope that it went back*
Wow, the price is still obscene...I'm wondering if this is like the "84PSE discontinued" thing, where there was only a change in some countries.
I honestly would not be surprised if Ti-Cares has no idea of it... :P
Or..."it's a feature"
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Well, they changed their site design recently. Either there's an error or they're really trying to get people to buy other calc models more.
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They're still high...
I got my 84+SE for less than they're selling the 83+ for. x.x
If it's not an error, it's most definitely a move by marketing for what someone (Deep Thought, I think?) said on the last page.
Silly, silly TI :P
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I hope the Casio Prizm will be popular enough to affect TI sales, so prices go down.
I hope you're right. I'm in the market for a new calc myself, my 84+SE is getting progressively more unstable :(
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I would love a Prizm if it supports asm. If not, I'll just stay with the nspire, It'll get support faster anyways.
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I'M most likely getting one even if it has no ASM support, just to see what the BASIC on it can do and I am sure someone will attempt to jailbreak it, anyway, now that the Casio community was teased with ASM support on previous models. Plus it seems popular among the TI community, even if it's not a TI calc. I still wonder how fast BASIC will be on it, though, and what processor does it have...
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Well, PRIZM looks like a toy right now (http://www.casiocalc.org/?showtopic=4975). CASIO does not even say what CPU is there!
While screen certainly looks more pleasing then NSpire the software side is superweak. As for "someone will attempt to jailbreak it"... well, PS3 jailbreak took almost four years while Wii was broken in days so it's hard to predict the outcome in advance. We'll see, I guess.
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Yeah I wish they said what CPU was in there. That said, is the software really that limited? Have you checked the instruction guide?
From what I am noticing, they just want it to look more attractive to users than black and white screens and old skool calculator designs like the TI-Nspire, in this day of iPhones and Blackberries.
However, if the software is too limited for maths, it will most likely not sell very well, no matter if it has a 100 MHz processor or not.
As for jailbreaking, this is if we even need to jailbreak it at all.
THis is the Prizm user guide, by the way: http://edu.casio.com/products/cg_series/data/fxcg10_20_E.pdf
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shows how cheap casio is compared!!!! and still has nice features! man the prices, so expensive...
And yes, im back, i haven't been on omnimaga for days...
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Wow, the user guide's out already! No specs, though...
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shows how cheap casio is compared!!!! and still has nice features! man the prices, so expensive...
And yes, im back, i haven't been on omnimaga for days...
Welcome back! And yeah, older Casio had much less features than TI calcs but the newer ones added a few more stuff. I hope the Prizm is on par with TI for math functions so it sells well enough.Wow, the user guide's out already! No specs, though...
Yeah Qwerty.55 posted it in the Casio BASIC thread so I thought I would share here and the other topic. Notice that unlike the Nspire, the Prizm got an actual Getkey function...
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What the fudge Staples? O.O
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_class.asp?CatIds=66,110&name=CA%5FCL%5FGraphing+Calculators
TI-Nspire Touchpad - $184.82
TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad - $159.99
Or is it because the regular one has 84+ emulation? ???
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Ok Staples seems to have dropped some prices in Canada now (at least online. They no longer appeared to provide anymore graphing calcs other than the 83+ the last time I checked at the local store). Here are the prices of their online store below, with the ones that decreased in green and the ones that increased in red:
83+ $124.96 (comes with Français app but it's still the american model, not the French one)
84+ $142.83 ~$5 decrease
84+SE $179.82 ~$3 increase (not a good news for when the color model comes out)
89T: $188.92 (about the same)
TI-Nspire Touchpad: $184.82 (about the same)
TI-Nspire CX: $174.84 ~$20 decrease (that must be a sale for sure, or a mistake)
TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad: $179.92 ~$10 decrease (Out of stock, most likely a mistake too, can't be a sale since it has been out of stock for 2 years)
TI-Nspire CX CAS: $199.99 (Out of stock since one year)
Casio PRIZM: $129.96 ~$20 decrease
What I saw IRL:
Walmart:
TI-83+: $139.99 (always out of stock it seems)
TI-84+: $159.99 ~$10 decrease (fail)
Zellers:
TI-83+ $69.99 ~$70 decrease (Out-of-business sale so that doesn't really count, seems out of stock now)
The Source (the last vestiges of Circuit City):
TI-83+ $139.99
Staples:
NO MORE GRAPHING CALCS IN STOCK????
Best Buy:
TI-83+ $129.99
Just thought I would give a small update. To me it seems that certain prices might have dropped based on the currency exchange rate, but our dollar has been on par with USD for almost 3 years now. The 84+SE price is kinda worrying because if it's that expensive, then that means the color SE calc will most likely cost $184.99 or something...
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But... Why would you buy a slow calc like the TI84+ C SE from a consumers point of view if you can get a much more powerful nspire for the same price???
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Because the teacher said you can't use an Nspire. Remember, although students buy graphing calculators, it's teachers that they advertise to. (Which means that free market economics doesn't apply to graphing calculators, which is why they're overpriced.)
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I have no clue. TI pricing is really weird. Even in USA the TI-Nspire Touchpad is only $20 higher than a 84+SE. I guess that maybe the demand for weaker calcs is so high in hi school that it's what drives the prices up. But still, an high price will turn parents away for sure. Where I live, many parents complained about how expensive TI-83+ calcs were, I can't imagine them buying a 84+CSE.
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I've never really saw any requirement for graphing calcs ever other than the ability for graphing, people will likely stick to the 83+ or the school-provided 82 though, because everyone has them and it's easier to follow the teacher that way. Note that the Nspire recently came out when I finished high school, and nobody had the 84 or SE models.
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Back in the days, only harder math classes required at least a TI-82/83+. They advised against bigger models because the teacher would teach how to use a 82 so it would be hard to follow him if we had a 89, and he said the 83+SE only offered faster speed/larger space and was too expensive, and the TI-80 because it was too limited and had no link port. They still required a 82 at least, but if people decided to not buy one anyway, they lent them old 82 calcs from the class that couldn't be brought outside. Easy math in my final year of hi school required a TI-80 minimum.
That was back in 2001-03, though. I wouldn't be surprised if where I live, some people bought TI-Nspire Clickpads back in 2008, because back then they were $159.99 instead of $184.99.
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holy necropost batman O.O
And wow DJ the prices are kinda high in canada :o
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Because the teacher said you can't use an Nspire. Remember, although students buy graphing calculators, it's teachers that they advertise to. (Which means that free market economics doesn't apply to graphing calculators, which is why they're overpriced.)
That is true. This is also why so many people in France buy 82Stats.fr, because this is the one teachers talked about even though the 76.fr does the same for cheaper and the 83+ is far better (not even talking about the 84+).
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Ok, even more WTFness:
I went to the local Staple retail store today, and they re-added a calc department near the computer accessories section, but guess what I saw:
1) The TI-84+ Silver Edition is now $149.99 instead of $179.99. The 84+ is still $142.83, only $7 lower than the SE instead of $37!
2) The TI-Nspire CX is now $174.99 instead of $194.99, but they are not in the calc section: They are in the LIQUIDATION section, with plenty of phased out/discontinued items!!!
Besides that, the 83+, 84+, Casio PRIZM and 89T all remains at the prices I posted on the previous page.
I think the store decided to stop carrying TI-Nspire models (which most likely sold poorly) entirely, in order to make ways for the new 84+ Color SE next school year, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 84+ or the 84+SE was next (seeing as they are almost the same price now). Seeing those prices, I'm betting that the color SE will cost from $169.99 to $179.99 there.
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My Office Max:
84+ SE = $119 or $129, I forgot
89 T = $149
N-Spire CX = $159
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It's totally a mess for the price of TI calcs... Here is the price in China online, not from the TI Agency (Sold on Taobao, something like EBay)
TI-NSpire Clickpad/Touchpad: 250~700 yuan (Yes, there are some new Touchpad sold at 250 yuan)
TI-NSpire CX CAS: About 1200 yuan
CASIO Prizm: 700~800 yuan
And TI really sells TI-83 / 84 at a price of PRIZM
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My new PRIZM was 800 yuan. Also, i got sold an 84+SE in an 84+ case for under 500 yuan :D Where can you get an NSpire for 250 yuan? I might just have to pick one (or two) up...
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$40 TI-Nspires? O.O
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Wow, that's cheap!
Mybe it's because of no shipping costs at all? (cuz they're manufactured in the same country?)
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Oh sorry there are no new touchpad sold at 250 yuan, but touchpad with some problems in keyboard sold at 150 yuan.
And here is clickpad sold at ~500. http://a.m.taobao.com/i5192974294.htm
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I just ordered a touchpad for 500元, shipping included :D About the same price as the 84+ (which turned out to be an SE) i ordered :P
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$40 TI-Nspires? O.O
Thats what happens where TI doesn't completely dominate the market I guess.
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Price update:
$124.96 for TI-83 Plus
$142.83 for TI-84 Plus
$149.99 for TI-84 Plus Silver Edition
$149.99 for TI-Nspire CX
$188.92 for TI-89 Titanium
Besides that I saw the following scientific calcs:
$3.97 for FX-300ES
$9.99 for TI-30XS MultiView
The TI-Nspire CX is still in the clearance section, so it definitively failed over here. The 84 Plus Silver Edition price is most likely due to the upcoming TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition, which will most likely range from $159.99 to $179.99 over here. There's no doubt that there's simply no market for the TI-Nspire CX over here, although it is unclear if it is due to being locked down and harder to get started with or if it's due to the high price tag, which is inflated by the USA-Kicks-Canada's-A** tax that TI still charges to Canadian customers (something that Casio, Nintendo, Sony and to a lesser extent Microsoft has stopped doing over a year ago).
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I find it strange that anyone would pay that much for an outdated 83+?
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I find it strange that anyone would pay that much for an outdated 83+?
99% of the time, it's only because schools force their students to do so.
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I find it strange that anyone would pay that much for an outdated 83+?
When school starts, the TI-83+ is discounted here, even down to $89.99 some years, while the TI-84 Plus can sometimes go down to $125 or so. However, since parents are not tech-savy about technology and are also poor here, they'll usually go for the cheapest calc possible. WHen the TI-80 was still sold, a lot of parents bought that calc for $69.99 instead.
The market for expensive calcs is just not big enough here. It's not poor enough to allow Casio to dominate like in countries under development, but there aren't enough rich people to allow anything more expensive than the TI-83 Plus to thrive.
However, most of the calcs as just popular enough to convince Texas Instruments to keep prices inflated. IIRC, in University, the TI-89 and to a lesser extent the TI-89 Titanium are still very popular here, although nobody really program it. I never heard of anyone IRL who owned a TI-Nspire at all.
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the 89T costs more than the cx? :crazy:
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Math-wise, the TI-89 is a lot more powerful than the TI-Nspire CX (non-CAS).
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Yeah but it lacks a color screen and 150 MHz processor. But again we're mostly paying for the software.
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Yeah, the cx has clearly the better hardware, and isn't the hardware more expensive then?
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RRP of 84 Colour?
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From what I remember, it's $150. The 84+ was $110-120 and 84+SE $130-150 if I recall correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if the price was on-par with the 84+Silver Edition and if it replaced that calc entirely at some point.
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Strangely enough, Staples has now restocked on TI-Nspire CX and now it's listed again on their Canadian site, at $169.84 online and $174.99 in stores. However, the 84+SE is gone. The 84+CSE is listed at $159.99, which is $10 more than the SE and $17 more than the 84+. I still couldn't find the PRIZM again at the local store, but on the website it's still available for $129.99. The 89T went from $188 to $179.92 and the CX CAS is still at an outrageous price of $199.99. So in stores, the calcs that are available for now are the 83+, 84+, 89T and Nspire CX. I guess if the CSE price remains the same forever and is the same in the physical store, then it's not too bad per Canadian standards considering the 84+SE used to sell for $176.84.
I didn't check Walmart yet.
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Some interesting deals for the next few days for Canadians:
Staples http://www.staples.ca/en/Graphing-Calculators/cat_CL200797_2-CA_1_20001
Online deals:
-Casio PRIZM: $99.96 (was $129.96. Expires on Sept 17th 2013)
-TI-89 Titanium: $149.92 (was $179.92. Expires on Sept 17th 2013)
-FX-9860GII/GIIs: $69.99 (was $89.99. Expires on Sept 17th 2013)
The following are only available in stores, not online:
-TI-84 Plus: $117.83 (was $142.83. Expires on Sept 10th 2013)
-TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition: $139.82 (was $169.99. Expires on Sept 10th 2013)
There were a few other deals like the ClassPad 400 for $134.99 (*.*) but sadly it's now out of stock :'( (like many other models).
Best Buy & Future Shop: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/graphing-calculators/35393.aspx?path=a5c334745cb0767402c30dbec4eeddf0en01
TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition: $129.99 (was $149.99. Expires on Sept 12th 2013) - Only available in store.
The TI-Nspire CX CAS was not too bad per Canadian standards ($164.99) but it seems to be out of stock. D:
Of course for the calcs that are only available in regular stores and not online, it is not guaranteed that they are in stock everywhere, so you might have to check often in case.
EDIT: The $135 CP-400 is back in stock! :D