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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: Tylervit2418 on April 03, 2010, 05:39:20 pm
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Hey guys, I'm fairly new here since this my first post, but I've been reading some recent posts for a while.
I have a question about buying a new calculator for my college classes, which I'm currently in Calculus 2.
I have the TI Nspire (not CAS), and it would really help me in my classes if I had one with a computer algebra system. I know the TI 89 can do many of the features, but I would prefer an Nspire since I am used to it and love the interface.
Now when looking online, I found the CAS Nspire, as long as the new CAS touchpad nspire. I actually was fortunate to test one of the touchpad ones with my school last year, but it looks like it wasn't even released yet according to TI's website even though they are available on Ebay.
Money isn't much of a concern, but I want a CAS calculator. Should I go with the touchpad to get the newest thing? Or are there bugs with it? I've tried searching but I couldn't find much. Thanks for any help..
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Well I would help you out, but I don't know anything about nSpires. I don't even know what the whole CAS thing is and such :P Sorry.
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I say, "Cool it and make sure that you don't jump to conclusions."
The last thing you need is to buy a calculator and end up with it being obsolete.
Go with the TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad.
(That is assuming that you won't program games on it.)
EDIT: Ninja slide?
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CAS is computer algebra system. It's kinda difficult for me to explain, but its like all the advantages of a TI 89 over a TI 84
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I say, "Cool it and make sure that you don't jump to conclusions."
The last thing you need is to buy a calculator and end up with it being obsolete.
Go with the TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad.
(That is assuming that you won't program games on it.)
EDIT: Ninja slide?
Thats how i feel with my current Nspire, I was told to get that by my math teacher in highschool. I'm just worried that something would go wrong with the touchpad since I never here about it lol.
And I would love to learn programming on the calculators, but I'll still have my other nspire if I want to take the time to learn how to do that
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if you want to program, I would suggest getting one of the TI-83+ series calcs. The Nspire calcs are horrible with the ffact that you can't have keypad interaction, everything is input through calling the program.
Also, there is a "modify" button, you might want to use that instead of double posting.
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Ah ok, so basically just more built in math functions?
Isn't the only game programming for the nSpire (well graphical anyways) only in C (and now ASM because of Ndless)?
And I'm just gonna say it now so you don't get in trouble in the future but I would watch double posting, use the modify (not meaning to sound rude, just keeping you out of trouble :))
Edit: Ninja'd (http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/post-7-1070332649.gif)
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Agreed and seconded.
Perhaps the TI-84+ Silver Edition is the right calculator for you.
OS 2.43, though.
OS 2.53MP will screw you over.
Don't listen to TI.
:D
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Well OS 2.53 will only screw you over programming and compatibility wise... mathematically it looks nice :P (I could be wrong, haven't tried it :P). But ya, I agree, if you wanna learn how to program calculators I would suggest TI-8(3+,3+SE,4+,4+SE).
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I use the ti84+se, the only thing I would say that would beat it (in the 83+ series) is the 83+se. although, with Ndless and calc84's programs you can run game boy games, and have a faster 83+ series emulation. Unless you've upgraded to something other than os 1.1
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Alright thanks for the help guys. And yeah, I'll modify next time lol
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One thing to consider is: are CAS calculators allowed at your school? Unfortunately I cannot help much since I don't know the other countries school systems much.
Also keep in mind if you double-post it's ok if there has been 6 hours, though (or 1 if it's a project). Otherwise as player_ said it migth be best to edit previous post instead ^^
Other than that Welcome here and I hope you eventually gain interest in programming, regardless of the platform. Most popular would be TI-83+ series, Nspire ARM assembly is gaining in popularity but TI-89/v200 is still alive :)
Btw the most user-friendly calc IMHO is the TI-83/84 serie, then then TI-85/86, but the 85/86 is discontinued. TI-89 would come next then TI-Nspire. However, in order of performances, it's the total opposite
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Btw the most user-friendly calc IMHO is the TI-83/84 serie, then then TI-85/86, but the 85/86 is discontinued. TI-89 would come next then TI-Nspire. However, in order of performances, it's the total opposite
Yeah, the better the performance, the less friendlier it is :P
I cannot really answer your question since I don't own the nspire... Although looking now at the TI's website it does look cool... btw, question to others, is ndless possible on nspire CAS? or is it strictly to nspire without CAS?
Oh, and is the TI-84+ possible on nspire CAS? or is it only for nspire handheld
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I would advise the TI-Nspire CAS non-touchpad, as we do not know about the status of Ndless on the new touchpad Nspires (which have non-downgradeable OSes). Although I vaguely recall a yAronet post saying an exploit was discovered that ran on 2.0.
If you really want amazing math abilities, get an HP-50. From what I can tell, they do a lot more math than the Nspire. Or better yet, a PC and Mathematica or Maple.
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Except there aren't much of a community for HP users anymore, at least, forum based, so it might be hard to get support x.x
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Yeah, unfortunately. But if you're getting a calculator purely for its built-in math functions, HP-50's are hard to beat (I don't know of any other calculator with Grobner bases and a Risch algorithm integrator).
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Doesn't HP use RPN, though? I also heard a lot by TI and Casio users that HPs were much harder to use than the former, even a TI-89. But again, the TI-Nspire is pretty hard to use, too.
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The HP-50 has an algebraic mode.
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Aaah ok, thanks for the info. Now if only those calcs had a big community... they have a quite powerful processor IIRC (in the 200 MHz, right?).
(offtopic: someone should make a HP-48 emulator for the TI-Nspire `-`)
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I cannot really answer your question since I don't own the nspire... Although looking now at the TI's website it does look cool... btw, question to others, is ndless possible on nspire CAS? or is it strictly to nspire without CAS?
Oh, and is the TI-84+ possible on nspire CAS? or is it only for nspire handheld
From what I know, ndless is possible on CAS but I have heard nothing about the touchscreen. I'm assuming no until a new version comes out because it runs 2.0. TI-84 isn't possible on the CAS, im not sure why but the CAS doesn't have the interchangeable keypads
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the issue is that the new Nspire and Nspire CAS models that are coming out soon cannot be downgraded to an OS older than 2.0. Ndless requires OS 1.1 at the moment. Only the older Nspires and Nspire CAS can be downgraded from 2.0 to an older OS.
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I would recommend you not to buy anything yet. Someone might be able to make some kind of third-party CAS for the normal Nspire, or even just install the CAS OS on it (yes, I know that this isn't very legal). And there still is the possibility of calc84maniac releasing his 89 emu.
But if you need the CAS really soon, then I would recommend buying an 89 Titanium, instead of having 2 Nspires.
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I think the 89 emu is in very early stages, though, and Calc84 has yet to figure out how to use linking routines for the TI-Nspire, meaning if you used the TI-89 emu on a Nspire, you would not be able to send any program to it yet if it came out soon.